Re: [Diversity-talk] Etiquette Guidelines bad | Re: Code of conduct

2020-12-09 Thread Jo Walsh
other time right now. zx -- Jo Walsh metaz...@fastmail.net On Wed, Dec 9, 2020, at 4:33 PM, Rory McCann wrote: > Have any of yous read the Ettiquette GuidelinesĀ¹? They're rubbish. > > Frederik broke them by publically calling Mike Migurski out, and for > not assuming he was

Re: [Diversity-talk] Code of conduct

2020-12-09 Thread Jo Walsh
ision. Principles sound but keep it about how things should be in a better world, not about how broken they are in this one. zx -- Jo Walsh metaz...@fastmail.net On Wed, Dec 9, 2020, at 2:29 AM, arnalie faye vicario wrote: > Hello/*Kumusta*, > > *Salamat*/Thanks everyone for

Re: [Diversity-talk] Code of Conduct & Moderation for this list

2018-03-01 Thread Jo Walsh
Hi folks. I'm glad of this forum to reboot this discussion. From my POV the Code of Conduct is boilerplate and should include the minimum necessary in order to be both accepted and effective. For better or worse the absence of a CoC has become a signpost that an online community is not welcomi

[diversity-talk] How are our diversity levels looking?

2015-02-16 Thread Jo Walsh
o move on it next. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/How_We_Map https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:How_We_Map Take it easy, all, -Jo -- Jo Walsh metaz...@fastmail.net ___ diversity-talk mailing list diversity-tal

Re: [diversity-talk] The recent unpleasantness

2014-12-02 Thread Jo Walsh
of itself. > > > > Frederik and Paul, > Am I to understand that felt Serge's comments were acceptable behavior? I > was expecting to find that you at least didn't condone it. but sadly no > where did you say Serge's comments were unacceptable. I understand wanting

Re: [diversity-talk] The recent unpleasantness

2014-12-02 Thread Jo Walsh
+1 what Frederik said. Thanks, saved me some typing there. We seem to have calmed down, I thought Mele had some very helpful advice. We can all help to drag up the baseline of civility after this painfully illustrative incident. To me this looks like a pre-emptive attempt at a decision which ther

Re: [diversity-talk] Neurodiversity and CoC

2014-12-01 Thread Jo Walsh
Wow. Um. Okay, if this list is going to be asshole-free then we are almost all going to have to unsubscribe immediately. Okay, now the irony has kicked in, this is hilarious. Tearing strips off one another over minor points of semantics during a discussion about discursive civility. The whole thin

Re: [diversity-talk] Neurodiversity and CoC

2014-10-13 Thread Jo Walsh
Responding here to the neurodiversity points raised on the other thread. [Disclaimer: I am neurodiverse. Participation in society comes at a high personal cost which i can't always pay.] This is a good read: http://geekfeminism.wikia.com/wiki/Autism_is_to_blame Here's the extreme case: http://ge

Re: [diversity-talk] OSM code of conduct: starting points

2014-10-09 Thread Jo Walsh
-- Forwarded message -- From: "Jo Walsh" Date: Oct 10, 2014 4:29 AM Subject: Re: [diversity-talk] OSM code of conduct: starting points To: "Paul Norman" Oh, i don't mean to suggest that the Code is only a symbolic move - but that it is also a symbolic mo

Re: [diversity-talk] OSM code of conduct: starting points

2014-10-08 Thread Jo Walsh
Okay, my gloss on this is that the Code of Conduct is a kind of shibboleth and a kind of insurance policy. You need one in order to be seen taking this stuff seriously, conversely to lack one suggests the community is not really engaging, at least OSM has several good faith efforts ;) I am imagin

[diversity-talk] Greetings, thoughts, references

2014-10-07 Thread Jo Walsh
dear all @diversity-talk, Good to see #osm4ada doing the rounds so quickly. Glad that's helping women organising in OSM build confidence. Wondering about next steps. Here is a collection of thoughts / references to related work. Sorry if i'm restating the obvious here. 1) Code of conduct / divers