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| which they inspire.--Gustave Le Bon
to specify that a block spans across the
page. I don't know if the tool chains support it yet or not.
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http://www.oasis
for is longer
than I care to contemplate supporting that way.
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to see them.
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P.S. I'll add a parameter to format segmented lists as tables for the next
release.
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Please beat on it and report problems. I'd like to do a stable release
next Monday.
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/ Baurjan Ismagulov [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say:
| On Mon, Nov 26, 2001 at 07:45:27AM -0500, Norman Walsh wrote:
| How does it break xrefs?
|
| I want the chapter titles be in the form 1. Title, but references
| should still be chapter 1 or Chapter 1 (depending on the position
in order
to attempt to get the label inside the first block. It sucks totally, but I
don't know of a better answer. I'm open to suggestions.
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I fixed this problem by using a table to format the qandaset. Bleh. But at
least it works consistently. There are some dbhtml PIs to control some of the
presentation of the table.
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/ Dave Pawson [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say:
| At 13:34 27/11/2001 -0500, Norman Walsh wrote:
|
| Someone want to file a feature request for $para.propagates.style? I suppose
| para role=foo might reasonably become p class=foo.
|
| I might if you tell me what $para.propogates.style means
create duplicate IDs, although I thought I'd fixed all of those
errors.
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,
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]
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[1] http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/entity/spec.html
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Chair, DocBook Technical
.
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/ Baurjan Ismagulov [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say:
| On Sun, Nov 18, 2001 at 02:39:16PM -0500, Norman Walsh wrote:
| You could instead tweak dbl1en.ent so that the element-name for Chapter was .
| Tried that; it breaks xrefs :( . Seems that I'll have to update my
How does it break xrefs
.
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for insignificant attribute whitespace are a little more
interesting, but irrelevant here.
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http://nwalsh.com/| called, the spiritual facilities are
| strong, but what gives the impression
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. Or is it just
In 4.2, the TC has expanded the content model of filename to allow
envar inside filename (for reasons just like this).
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problems that these URIs cause.
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[1] http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/entity/spec.html
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http
.
Returnvalue is a relatively new addition. I think it makes sense to
markup the return type.
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,
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:///path/to/where/you/put/things/
to your catalog and you should be all set.
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you,
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http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/ | which A acquires property for
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,
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Chair, DocBook Technical Committee | as long as both are
| frozen.--Edward V. Berard
| DocBook Technical Committee Meeting Minutes: 20 Nov 2001
|
|
| Agenda
|
| 1. Roll call
Dennis Evans
Dick Hamilton
Sabine Ocker
Michael Smith
Bob Stayton
Norman Walsh
Nancy (Paisner) Harrison (:30)
Regrets:
Patricia Gee-Best
| 2
,
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/
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?
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?
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in there.
That's for adding your own tags. I believe Torgan wants the keyword
elements to generate keyword meta tags. And that is supposed to happen
automatically.
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[Resend, I botched an address]
/ Togan Muftuoglu [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say:
| Hi Norm,
|
| * Norman Walsh; [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 20 Nov, 2001 wrote:
| | /keywordset
| |
| | What do I have to add to the stylesheet to produce the relavent META tag
| | generation in the html
.
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? Is the catalog containing
this line in your catalog path or files list?
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,
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/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say:
| Norman Walsh writes:
| If I change the stylesheets so that they match the FO REC, RenderX and
| newer tools will work, but older tools (PassiveTeX and FOP) will not.
|
| Is anyone here familiar enough with FOP development to suggest when
.
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| having lived in vain.--Hazlitt
,
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Chair, DocBook Technical Committee | necessity of evil, the uselessness
| of remedies
instead of
chap;ing them, you have to use external links to cross chapter
boundaries. Unfortunate, perhaps, but there you have it.
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.
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P.S. I find StarOffice and in a pinch VMWare fine alternatives to switching
back :-)
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/ Elliotte Rusty Harold [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say:
| At 6:35 AM -0500 11/16/01, Norman Walsh wrote:
|
| But A links are *always* inline. This doesn't provide any practical
| experience with making P elements or DIV elements or BODY
| elements the starting point of links
or that you're pointing to
the stylesheets locally. Otherwise, you may be waiting for Saxon to slurp
nearly 500Kb of stylesheet over the net.
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with a PI:
...
tgroup
?dbfo table-width=3in?
...
(Dave/Bob, I'll try to write up an FAQ entry on this today.)
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http
/ Yann Dirson [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say:
| On Wed, Nov 14, 2001 at 12:32:19PM -0500, Norman Walsh wrote:
| We could do it that way, but I think the implementation burden would
| be even higher. Most XML systems don't have support for AF directly, so it
| would all have
.)
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(or somethink). Make it a
| backlinked standalone document.
I don't know how to do that in any of the popular presentation systems.
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ought to complain, but this is a browser and HTML browsers go to great
lengths to recover from errors, so the offending end tag is ignored.
More than anyone wanted to know, I'm sure. :-)
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on that basis. As for .NET, well, I'm
not motivated by that at all.
Speaking only for myself,
norm
P.S. Yes, DTDs are dead. So is SGML. They just don't know it yet. And
might not for years and years to come.
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| in everything what may justly
or is this a bug?
I bet that's a bug. Report it at sourceforge.net/projects/docbook, please.
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In response to some offline comments, I suggest:
/ Norman Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say:
[...]
| Our current tags are
|
| author ::=
| ((honorific|firstname|surname|lineage|othername|affiliation|
| authorblurb|contrib)+)
|
| affiliation ::=
| (shortaffil?,jobtitle
/ Adam Turoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say:
| On Wed, Nov 14, 2001 at 11:07:10AM -0500, Norman Walsh wrote:
| Which inline elements do you mean here (i.e., which PE definitions)?
| Or, do you mean anything that can be found inside of para?
I mean essentially all the inlines (filename
the *styled representation* not the source.
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/ Jirka Kosek [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say:
| Norman Walsh wrote:
|
| Given a PE like this:
|
| !ENTITY % xlink-optional-simple-link
| xlink:type (simple)#IMPLIED
|
| I think that there should be #FIXED simple, so one is not forced to
| add xlink:type=simple to every
.
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is probably right.
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| Neither it nor our love
in
equations.
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/ Elliotte Rusty Harold [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say:
| At 12:54 PM -0500 11/12/01, Norman Walsh wrote:
|
| In fact, the only reasons I want to pursue this at all, instead of
| simply saying use XInclude are that (1) XInclude is not a REC,
|
| Which do you think is more likely to be done
thing might work, but I JAMMED OUT like
| the craven coward that my Mom knows me to be and decided to post to this
| list instead.
LOL.
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one, I encourage you
to make the terms so inserted with role='automatic' or something so
that you can strip them out or rebuild the list.
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, userinput, programlisting, literallayout, screen, synopsis,
replaceable, and systemitem.
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in the verbatim environments and a few other
places. But we can leave that as a separate RFE, if we accept this
proposal, I think.
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. One can say that format of file is java or text/java and
| stylesheet can apply syntax-highlighting on the file.
Hmm, but what should we call that attribute?
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Being parodied, I mean:
http://www.mlug.ca/faq/faq1/docbook_html
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with a completly rewritten one by myself??
If you're using DocBook, it's almost certainly better to write a
customization layer.
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| coerciveness
name=title
l:template name=slides text=%t/
/l:context
/l:l10n
/i18n
The next release of the slides doctype will include this by default.
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;variation
So you'll be able to specify
en
en_US
en_US;htmlhelp
en_US;slides
With fallback appropriately. (en_US;var - en_US - en)
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version of the Docbook DTD?
In XML, empty elements cannot have attributes of type NOTATION. (I forget
if the same was true of SGML, it might have been.)
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:5:13:E: non SGML character number 152
Try
nsgmls -s /path/to/xml.dcl EditArticleWithEmacs.xml
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/ Norman Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say:
| / Morten Primdahl [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say:
| | I was looking for an attribute or extra tag and have db2html deal with
| | the typesetting. I'll go with your suggestion though, thanks.
|
| quote for articles, citetitle for books
parser that does not validate DocBook is broken.
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an SGML-centric book about DocBook 3.1 to a more XML-centric book
about DocBook 4.x.
Wait for 2.1.x, please. That's what that middle number is for :-)
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before your filename.
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, we'll that's a loophole :-)
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in programlisting
| second way has no pre and perhaps that is okay?
Yes, the programlisting provides the pre.
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http
should call another template that, by default, does
nothing but call gentext-nav-*.
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?
| I think if we could agree to some requirements then the
| system design would be much easier. 8^)
Sounds like a plan to me.
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| which they practice so
: syntax highlighted XML.
Maybe something similar would work for your application.
prettyprint.pl
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