Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Is anyone working on Draw Guide

2011-06-23 Thread David Nelson
Hi John, Jean, On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 3:12 AM, Jean Hollis Weber wrote: > From the screenshot you sent me offlist, I can see the source of our > miscommunication. You are using alfresco from > documentation.libreoffice.org while I am using it from > alfresco.libreoffice.org. The views are indeed

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Impress Documentation sign up

2011-06-23 Thread David Nelson
Hi Javier, 2011/6/24 Javier Oscar Cordero-Pérez : > No, I think I was missed out. Hehehe, no worries, I'll check the files > calmly on the weekend. > Att. > Javier Did you get the Alfresco account details I sent you yesterday to the mail address you're using here? -- David Nelson -- Unsubscrib

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Impress Documentation sign up

2011-06-23 Thread Javier Oscar Cordero-Pérez
No, I think I was missed out. Hehehe, no worries, I'll check the files calmly on the weekend. Att. Javier On 06/23/2011 10:16 AM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) Have you been able to get a login yet? I have a feeling that there were a few people asking and i worry that someone might have been missed

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] HTML versions of the Guides

2011-06-23 Thread Gary Schnabl
On 6/23/2011 9:00 PM, planas wrote: John, On Fri, 2011-06-24 at 00:30 +0100, John Cleland wrote: Hi I used LibO 3.3 to produce a PDF file on windows 7. Opening the PDF using Acrobat X on windows 7 and you are able to use both highlights and comments. The review parts also seem enabled. High

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] HTML versions of the Guides

2011-06-23 Thread planas
John, On Fri, 2011-06-24 at 00:30 +0100, John Cleland wrote: > Hi > > I used LibO 3.3 to produce a PDF file on windows 7. Opening the PDF using > Acrobat X on windows 7 and you are able to use both highlights and comments. > The review parts also seem enabled. > > Highlights and comments def

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] HTML versions of the Guides

2011-06-23 Thread Gary Schnabl
You need not do anything for Commenting and Analysis as long as you are employing Acrobat Pro--any version going back to either 6 or 7. However, in order to enable a vanilla PDF for other users employing Adobe Reader, open the desired PDF and go to the Comments menu (Comments > Enable for Comm

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Is anyone working on Draw Guide

2011-06-23 Thread Gary Schnabl
On 6/23/2011 7:32 PM, John Cleland wrote: Hi Thanks Jean, David and Gary for you help. It may be right, that I am looking at a different view. I thought that Alfresco had been upgraded because suddenly it looked different. I will email a screenshot. Regards John -Original Message---

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Is anyone working on Draw Guide

2011-06-23 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
From the screenshot you sent me offlist, I can see the source of our miscommunication. You are using alfresco from documentation.libreoffice.org while I am using it from alfresco.libreoffice.org. The views are indeed very different. The view you are using appears to not have the Checkout option am

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] HTML versions of the Guides

2011-06-23 Thread Nino Novak
It's pretty after midnight local time here, so a last answer for today... On Friday, 24. June 2011 01:00:38 Gary Schnabl wrote: > On 6/23/2011 5:16 PM, Nino Novak wrote: > > ... [Offering enhanced PDF Manuals] > > > So finally, why don't you "just do it" yourself? > > Duh! I did that--while I

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Is anyone working on Draw Guide

2011-06-23 Thread David Nelson
Hi John, On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 2:32 AM, John Cleland wrote: > Thanks Jean, David and Gary for you help. You're welcome. > It may be right, that I am looking at a different view.  I thought that > Alfresco had been upgraded because suddenly it looked different.  I will > email a screenshot. Y

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] HTML versions of the Guides

2011-06-23 Thread Tom Davies
[applauds] From: John Cleland To: documentation@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Fri, 24 June, 2011 0:30:23 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] HTML versions of the Guides Hi I used LibO 3.3 to produce a PDF file on windows 7. Opening the PDF using Acroba

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Is anyone working on Draw Guide

2011-06-23 Thread John Cleland
Hi Thanks Jean, David and Gary for you help. It may be right, that I am looking at a different view. I thought that Alfresco had been upgraded because suddenly it looked different. I will email a screenshot. Regards John -Original Message- From: Jean Hollis Weber Sent: Wednesda

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] HTML versions of the Guides

2011-06-23 Thread John Cleland
Hi I used LibO 3.3 to produce a PDF file on windows 7. Opening the PDF using Acrobat X on windows 7 and you are able to use both highlights and comments. The review parts also seem enabled. Highlights and comments definitely save. It maybe that this is possible already without Acrobat Pro.

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] HTML versions of the Guides

2011-06-23 Thread Gary Schnabl
On 6/23/2011 5:08 PM, Jean Hollis Weber wrote: On Thu, 2011-06-23 at 14:18 -0400, Gary Schnabl wrote: Having the Review and Comment functionality on a PDF (to be done with Adobe Reader) must be first imparted by Acrobat Pro to that file. Trust me... Gary is correct on this point. As for doing

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] HTML versions of the Guides

2011-06-23 Thread Gary Schnabl
On 6/23/2011 5:16 PM, Nino Novak wrote: On Thursday, 23. June 2011 20:29:38 Gary Schnabl wrote: On 6/23/2011 1:44 PM, Nino Novak wrote: On Thursday, 23. June 2011 18:53:12 Gary Schnabl wrote: On 6/23/2011 12:44 PM, Nino Novak wrote: Hi Gary, On Thursday, 23. June 2011 18:35:27 Gary Schnabl w

[libreoffice-documentation] Cross reference: Discussion on consistent UI theme for screenshots on the design list

2011-06-23 Thread Bernhard Dippold
Hi all, just to inform you: due to a variety of recommendations for UI themes to be used for official screenshots I'd like to search for a consensus on *one* consistent UI theme for screenshots to be used on - documentation (and it's localizations) - website - marketing material - press kit -

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] HTML versions of the Guides

2011-06-23 Thread Nino Novak
On Thursday, 23. June 2011 20:29:38 Gary Schnabl wrote: > On 6/23/2011 1:44 PM, Nino Novak wrote: > > On Thursday, 23. June 2011 18:53:12 Gary Schnabl wrote: > >> On 6/23/2011 12:44 PM, Nino Novak wrote: > >>> Hi Gary, > >>> > >>> On Thursday, 23. June 2011 18:35:27 Gary Schnabl wrote: > Ther

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] HTML versions of the Guides

2011-06-23 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
On Thu, 2011-06-23 at 14:18 -0400, Gary Schnabl wrote: > Having the Review and Comment functionality on a PDF (to be done with > Adobe Reader) must be first imparted by Acrobat Pro to that file. Trust > me... Gary is correct on this point. As for doing that, Gary states elsewhere that it's a q

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] User Guides - Bleeding edge versions?

2011-06-23 Thread Nino Novak
On Thursday, 23. June 2011 22:26:34 David Nelson wrote: > On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 11:00 PM, Nino Novak wrote: > > BTW: What we are looking for is a collaborative editing tool. Does > > Alfresco provide such a tool? > > Well, if you count the ability for a document to be checked out by a > team m

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Request: Short Howto about installation of an Extension into LibreOffice

2011-06-23 Thread David Nelson
Hi Andreas, On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 6:55 PM, Andreas Mantke wrote: > thanks for the hint. I used that chapter and created the short howto out of > it. I > uploaded it in the file format pdf to the new extension-template-website. It > is > currently here: http://extensions2.libreoffice.org/help-

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] HTML versions of the Guides

2011-06-23 Thread David Nelson
Hi, On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 6:31 PM, planas wrote: >> Most places that have any kind of leaflet, posters or documentation to >> download >> want to have some control over the way it looks.  Sadly there is not an >> adequate >> Open Document Format so people use PDF.  Since PDF is so widely used

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] User Guides - Bleeding edge versions?

2011-06-23 Thread David Nelson
Hi Nino, On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 11:00 PM, Nino Novak wrote: > BTW: What we are looking for is a collaborative editing tool. Does > Alfresco provide such a tool? Well, if you count the ability for a document to be checked out by a team member and marked as such until checked in, then yes. Plus,

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] User Guides - Bleeding edge versions?

2011-06-23 Thread Nino Novak
On Thursday, 23. June 2011 10:25:36 David Nelson wrote: > Hi Nino, > > Sorry I got there late. If you need any help with Alfresco, please do > feel free to buzz me. Thanks, David. At first glance, all seems self-explaining, so I'll return to you (or the list) if I can't solve something myself.

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Fwd: Password-protect your folders with free docLock (Windows)

2011-06-23 Thread planas
Hi Is the minor editing of pdf files a Reader functionality or must you use Acrobat to have it. The best way is to test it on pdf file exported from LO. Also, I believe most people are looking for a copy of the documentation for reference not study. Thus, exporting from LO would be the easiest ans

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] HTML versions of the Guides

2011-06-23 Thread planas
Gary On Thu, 2011-06-23 at 13:43 -0400, Gary Schnabl wrote: > On 6/23/2011 1:25 PM, planas wrote: > > On Thu, 2011-06-23 at 19:04 +0200, C wrote: > > > >> On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 18:53, Gary Schnabl wrote: > > Therefore, I suggest that every OOo/LO PDF file be so converted by > > Adobe A

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Fwd: Password-protect your folders with free docLock (Windows)

2011-06-23 Thread Gary Schnabl
On 6/23/2011 1:59 PM, planas wrote: Hi Is the minor editing of pdf files a Reader functionality or must you use Acrobat to have it. The best way is to test it on pdf file exported from LO. Also, I believe most people are looking for a copy of the documentation for reference not study. Thus, expo

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] HTML versions of the Guides

2011-06-23 Thread Gary Schnabl
On 6/23/2011 1:44 PM, Nino Novak wrote: On Thursday, 23. June 2011 18:53:12 Gary Schnabl wrote: On 6/23/2011 12:44 PM, Nino Novak wrote: Hi Gary, On Thursday, 23. June 2011 18:35:27 Gary Schnabl wrote: Therefore, I suggest that every OOo/LO PDF file be so converted by Adobe Acrobat Profession

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] HTML versions of the Guides

2011-06-23 Thread Gary Schnabl
On 6/23/2011 2:15 PM, planas wrote: Gary On Thu, 2011-06-23 at 13:43 -0400, Gary Schnabl wrote: On 6/23/2011 1:25 PM, planas wrote: On Thu, 2011-06-23 at 19:04 +0200, C wrote: On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 18:53, Gary Schnabl wrote: Therefore, I suggest that every OOo/LO PDF file be so convert

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] HTML versions of the Guides

2011-06-23 Thread Nino Novak
On Thursday, 23. June 2011 19:50:49 Gary Schnabl wrote: > On 6/23/2011 1:44 PM, Nino Novak wrote: > > On Thursday, 23. June 2011 18:53:12 Gary Schnabl wrote: > >> On 6/23/2011 12:44 PM, Nino Novak wrote: > >>> Hi Gary, > >>> > >>> On Thursday, 23. June 2011 18:35:27 Gary Schnabl wrote: > Ther

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] HTML versions of the Guides

2011-06-23 Thread Gary Schnabl
On 6/23/2011 1:44 PM, Nino Novak wrote: On Thursday, 23. June 2011 18:53:12 Gary Schnabl wrote: On 6/23/2011 12:44 PM, Nino Novak wrote: Hi Gary, On Thursday, 23. June 2011 18:35:27 Gary Schnabl wrote: Therefore, I suggest that every OOo/LO PDF file be so converted by Adobe Acrobat Profession

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] HTML versions of the Guides

2011-06-23 Thread Gary Schnabl
On 6/23/2011 1:31 PM, C wrote: On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 19:15, Gary Schnabl wrote: It may be a nice-to-have feature, but due to cost and OS restrictions, it will probably remain a nice-to-have. It costs the users absolutely NOTHING, I repeat NOTHING, as long as any version of Adobe Reader that

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] HTML versions of the Guides

2011-06-23 Thread Nino Novak
On Thursday, 23. June 2011 18:53:12 Gary Schnabl wrote: > On 6/23/2011 12:44 PM, Nino Novak wrote: > > Hi Gary, > > > > On Thursday, 23. June 2011 18:35:27 Gary Schnabl wrote: > >> Therefore, I suggest that every OOo/LO PDF file be so converted by > >> Adobe Acrobat Professional afterward, prior t

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] HTML versions of the Guides

2011-06-23 Thread Gary Schnabl
On 6/23/2011 1:25 PM, planas wrote: On Thu, 2011-06-23 at 19:04 +0200, C wrote: On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 18:53, Gary Schnabl wrote: Therefore, I suggest that every OOo/LO PDF file be so converted by Adobe Acrobat Professional afterward, prior to release so that OOo/LO users will have that extr

[libreoffice-documentation] Fwd: Password-protect your folders with free docLock (Windows)

2011-06-23 Thread Gary Schnabl
Windows users might desire to take advantage of a one-day-only free giveaway of a Window utility... BTW, I come across a fair number of giveaways and deeply-discounted hardware and software items through this source. Haste is usually required for most items, as they rapidly sell out. But there

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] HTML versions of the Guides

2011-06-23 Thread C
On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 19:15, Gary Schnabl wrote: >> It may be a nice-to-have feature, but due to cost and OS restrictions, >> it will probably remain a nice-to-have. >> > > It costs the users absolutely NOTHING, I repeat NOTHING, as long as any > version of Adobe Reader that was released within

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] HTML versions of the Guides

2011-06-23 Thread planas
On Thu, 2011-06-23 at 19:04 +0200, C wrote: > On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 18:53, Gary Schnabl wrote: > >>> Therefore, I suggest that every OOo/LO PDF file be so converted by > >>> Adobe Acrobat Professional afterward, prior to release so that > >>> OOo/LO users will have that extra functionality. > >

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] HTML versions of the Guides

2011-06-23 Thread Gary Schnabl
On 6/23/2011 1:04 PM, C wrote: On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 18:53, Gary Schnabl wrote: Therefore, I suggest that every OOo/LO PDF file be so converted by Adobe Acrobat Professional afterward, prior to release so that OOo/LO users will have that extra functionality. What purpose do you want this fun

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] HTML versions of the Guides

2011-06-23 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) Lol. Ok, so if anyone has time then it can be done but the ODTs have that sort of functionality anyway and it slightly defeats the purpose of providing a pdf. A nice layer of extra icing if anyone has time :) Regards from Tom :) From: Gary Schnabl

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] HTML versions of the Guides

2011-06-23 Thread C
On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 18:53, Gary Schnabl wrote: >>> Therefore, I suggest that every OOo/LO PDF file be so converted by >>> Adobe Acrobat Professional afterward, prior to release so that >>> OOo/LO users will have that extra functionality. >> >> What purpose do you want this functionality for? >

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] HTML versions of the Guides

2011-06-23 Thread Gary Schnabl
On 6/23/2011 12:44 PM, Nino Novak wrote: Hi Gary, On Thursday, 23. June 2011 18:35:27 Gary Schnabl wrote: Therefore, I suggest that every OOo/LO PDF file be so converted by Adobe Acrobat Professional afterward, prior to release so that OOo/LO users will have that extra functionality. What pur

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] HTML versions of the Guides

2011-06-23 Thread Nino Novak
Hi Gary, On Thursday, 23. June 2011 18:35:27 Gary Schnabl wrote: > Therefore, I suggest that every OOo/LO PDF file be so converted by > Adobe Acrobat Professional afterward, prior to release so that > OOo/LO users will have that extra functionality. What purpose do you want this functionality fo

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] HTML versions of the Guides

2011-06-23 Thread Gary Schnabl
On 6/23/2011 11:31 AM, planas wrote: Hi On Thu, 2011-06-23 at 10:41 +0100, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) Most places that have any kind of leaflet, posters or documentation to download want to have some control over the way it looks. Sadly there is not an adequate Open Document Format so people use

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Request: Short Howto about installation of an Extension into LibreOffice

2011-06-23 Thread Andreas Mantke
Hi Jean, *, Am Sonntag, 19. Juni 2011, 23:25:07 schrieb Jean Hollis Weber: > On Sun, 2011-06-19 at 19:36 +0200, Andreas Mantke wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > in the last days I managed to create a new environment for an extension > > repository. There are some duties left for the new repo. I think it

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] HTML versions of the Guides

2011-06-23 Thread planas
Hi On Thu, 2011-06-23 at 17:09 +0200, C wrote: > On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 16:55, Nino Novak wrote: > > So my statement would be: > > Stay with ODF as master (as long as there is not a more conveniant > > solution) and try to offer PDF /and/ HTML in addition. Ideally, the PDF > > and HTML conversi

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] HTML versions of the Guides

2011-06-23 Thread planas
Hi On Thu, 2011-06-23 at 10:41 +0100, Tom Davies wrote: > Hi :) > Most places that have any kind of leaflet, posters or documentation to > download > want to have some control over the way it looks. Sadly there is not an > adequate > Open Document Format so people use PDF. Since PDF is so w

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] HTML versions of the Guides

2011-06-23 Thread Tom Davies
From: planas To: documentation@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Thu, 23 June, 2011 16:16:48 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] HTML versions of the Guides On Thu, 2011-06-23 at 04:27 -0400, Marc Paré wrote: > Le 2011-06-23 02:30, David Nelson a écrit : > >

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] HTML versions of the Guides

2011-06-23 Thread planas
On Thu, 2011-06-23 at 04:27 -0400, Marc Paré wrote: > Le 2011-06-23 02:30, David Nelson a écrit : > > Hi, > > > > My 2 cents would be that the best format for guides is .odt, plus a > > publication of the user-ready version in PDF. > > > > I don't think an HTML version would really be a useful ide

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] HTML versions of the Guides

2011-06-23 Thread C
On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 16:55, Nino Novak wrote: > So my statement would be: > Stay with ODF as master (as long as there is not a more conveniant > solution) and try to offer PDF /and/ HTML in addition. Ideally, the PDF > and HTML conversion should be done as automatically as possible, so no > nee

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] HTML versions of the Guides

2011-06-23 Thread Nino Novak
On Thursday, 23. June 2011 16:13:56 Marc Paré wrote: > We are essentially saying the same thing. For necessary files where > the ODF cannot be read due to the inability of having LibreOffice > installed to read ODF files then falling back on .pdf's is fine. PDF has a different purpose: to show a

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] HTML versions of the Guides

2011-06-23 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) You have 6 seconds and 3 mouse-clicks to grab & hold a persons attention before they leave the website. Demanding that they download and install an unfamiliar product pushes people away unless the entire process is completed in under that time. People on an early visit may just open d

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Impress Documentation sign up

2011-06-23 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) Have you been able to get a login yet? I have a feeling that there were a few people asking and i worry that someone might have been missed out. I should have tried tracking this better. Apols and regards from Tom :) From: Javier Oscar Cordero-Pérez

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] HTML versions of the Guides

2011-06-23 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2011-06-23 04:35, Jean Weber a écrit : I will chime in as well. I would rather see the ODF versions first and the .pdf only if needed. We are, after all, telling people that we have the best office suite on earth, so let's prove it! It does work!. I would even go as far as not publishing any .

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] HTML versions of the Guides

2011-06-23 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) Most places that have any kind of leaflet, posters or documentation to download want to have some control over the way it looks. Sadly there is not an adequate Open Document Format so people use PDF. Since PDF is so widely used it forces everyone to use it. I don't think we can make a

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] HTML versions of the Guides

2011-06-23 Thread David Nelson
Hi, On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 4:35 PM, Jean Weber wrote: > Marc, please see my earlier note about the importance and necessity of > providing PDFs. Yeah, I'd agree with Jean about it being important to provide PDFs. Past discussions on this list led to a consensus that ODF's .odt format is the bes

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] HTML versions of the Guides

2011-06-23 Thread Jean Weber
On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 18:27, Marc Paré wrote: > Le 2011-06-23 02:30, David Nelson a écrit : >> >> Hi, >> >> My 2 cents would be that the best format for guides is .odt, plus a >> publication of the user-ready version in PDF. >> >> I don't think an HTML version would really be a useful idea. >> >

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] HTML versions of the Guides

2011-06-23 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2011-06-23 02:30, David Nelson a écrit : Hi, My 2 cents would be that the best format for guides is .odt, plus a publication of the user-ready version in PDF. I don't think an HTML version would really be a useful idea. -- David Nelson I will chime in as well. I would rather see the ODF ve

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] User Guides - Bleeding edge versions?

2011-06-23 Thread David Nelson
Hi Nino, Sorry I got there late. If you need any help with Alfresco, please do feel free to buzz me. All the latest and greatest Engish docs stuff is on Alfresco, as Jean explained, but the wiki is being used as the final drop point for user-downloadable product. I'm busy working on workflows on