[e-gold-list] Re: Surge in velocity

2003-05-29 Thread jrw
not a perfect match for your request Ian, but this past message of mine from mar 14th references data that you can use to get historical velocity information: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- by continuing popular demand, the 4 CSV files containing daily e-metal velocity have been updated to i

[e-gold-list] Surge in velocity

2003-05-29 Thread Ian Green
A sudden increase in the number of incentive payments in my account prompted me to check stats.e-gold.com, although the actual value of the bonuses was barely more than a dollar in a month (considering the maximum of five cents and the number of spends that are below $50 worth). ... But I know of

[e-gold-list] Re: get paid for being the first to answer some questions

2003-05-29 Thread Yog Yatry
Dear Friends, I am again paid 5 grams e-gold for the answer of following question by Stephen Villee. Question: According to svillee, what purpose might be served by a thought experiment asking people how much of a lump sum they would accept to allow an unabashedly plutocratic government? Thanks

[e-gold-list] Re: repudiable payment system

2003-05-29 Thread Danny Van den Berghe
> >Yes, but what's the answer to this question, JP: > >** How can an exchange provider offer DGCs in exchange for CC > >payments and make money doing it? > Aha, very simply, you will use repudiable e-gold for that as well. It will work like this: Customer orders e-gold at Exchange Provider a

[e-gold-list] Re: repudiable payment system, also proxystore.com and other name-dropping

2003-05-29 Thread Danny Van den Berghe
> > In your "timed-release payment escrow" system, what if the customer > fraudulently claims he did not receive the goods? It seems that the > merchant would necessarily absorb this loss, since there is no other > entity (e.g. the credit card company) to absorb it. It's the same as a fraudulent

[e-gold-list] Fw: Where this link lead? BEAWARE

2003-05-29 Thread Yog Yatry
- Original Message - From: Yog Yatry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: e-gold Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 9:04 AM Subject: Where this link lead? http://www.e-gold.com/unsecure/verify.htm Just received in mailbox.I did not open it. regards - yatry --- You

[e-gold-list] Re: May Scale 1-4

2003-05-29 Thread jpm
I'd suggest a better breakdown is: 1 -- Local currency 2 -- Universal currencies (USD, Euros, etc) * varies by region 3 -- E-Gold 4 -- Other foreign currencies Adam Adam, as it explains clearly on the MAY SCALE page, the "actual" items shown on that particular may scale at the time i typed it

[e-gold-list] New "no name" debit cards are now available!

2003-05-29 Thread eForexGold
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[e-gold-list] Re: May Scale 1-4

2003-05-29 Thread Adam Selene
I'd suggest a better breakdown is: 1 -- Local currency 2 -- Universal currencies (USD, Euros, etc) * varies by region 3 -- E-Gold 4 -- Other foreign currencies Adam --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[e-gold-list] Re: ditch the IMF, JPM and "Paris Hayes"

2003-05-29 Thread Gordon H.
May I suggest that they don't get a room? Paris is a 22 year old kiwi from NZ and is my wife. If you want to meet up for lunch when you are in Tucson we can make arrangements of course and then you can see for yourself that it is not my alter ego. Or maybe she is my alter ego like in the fight

[e-gold-list] CC payments for ecurrency; hardness scale

2003-05-29 Thread Graham Kelly
Guys, GoldNow CC fraud losses are minimal... however, *maintaining* it that way takes serious staff input & wages. Our actual fraud rate is less than 0.003%. The *attempted* fraud rate is massive. We reject 100-250 orders per month, worth up to a quarter Million $, as fraudulent. Usually stolen ID

[e-gold-list] May Scale 1-4

2003-05-29 Thread Adam Selene
> 1 street cash, US dollars > 2 street cash, euro currencies, Aus, japan > 4 street cash, other regions I'm curious as to why these are separated? Are 2 & 4 more soft than 1 because: a) the central banks are more likely to default? b) the governments are more likley to invoke exchange con

[e-gold-list] repudiable payment system, also proxystore.com and other name-dropping

2003-05-29 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
On Wednesday, May 28, 2003, at 05:34 PM, Danny Van den Berghe wrote: That's not the way I would implement it. ... In your "timed-release payment escrow" system, what if the customer fraudulently claims he did not receive the goods? It seems that the merchant would necessarily absorb this loss,

[e-gold-list] Re: repudiable payment system

2003-05-29 Thread Adam Selene
>>** How can an exchange provider offer DGCs in exchange for CC >>payments and make money doing it? > Right, very simply by building in a premium to cover losses. And very substantial anti-fraud controls, plus enough capital reserve buffer extraordinary fraud losses until volume and averages weig

[e-gold-list] Re: Registrars accepting e-gold

2003-05-29 Thread Gordon H.
I think he was asking for registrars accepting e-gold and not companies registering domains for e-gold? There is a difference. I don't know if van rein is accredited or not. It really makes little difference I suppose except that a company spending the big bucks for registrar status is probabl

[e-gold-list] Re: repudiable payment system

2003-05-29 Thread jpm
Yes, but what's the answer to this question, JP: ** How can an exchange provider offer DGCs in exchange for CC payments and make money doing it? Right, very simply by building in a premium to cover losses. In short, it's not that you "can't" do what you describe above, but, very simply there is

[e-gold-list] Re: repudiable payment system

2003-05-29 Thread Offshore Team
I agree with what you are saying, but also I was making the point that velocity is the key AS WELL AS actual users. We can say that e-gold is kicking butt when it is compared in scale to the larger groups to say PayPal, but PayPal overshadows e-gold by millions in share users - which equates to

[e-gold-list] Re: repudiable payment system

2003-05-29 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
On Wednesday, May 28, 2003, at 05:30 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: repudiable, non-repudiable -- never the twain shall meet. It's a waste of time discussing it, as I've learned Yes, but what's the answer to this question, JP: ** How can an exchange provider offer DGCs in exchange for CC payme

[e-gold-list] Re: repudiable payment system

2003-05-29 Thread Danny Van den Berghe
> > Yes, and unfortunately in my post I emphasized the credit aspect of the > system but failed to discuss the repudiation aspect. They might even > be orthogonal issues, though I don't see how an issuer could make any > money with a repudiable payment system that did NOT involve credit. It > see

[e-gold-list] Re: ideas

2003-05-29 Thread Danny Van den Berghe
> >On the net you are frequently dealing with unknown counterparties in unknown (or > >uncertain) locations. > >Non-repudiable payments is not a realistic option in these cases. > >Repudiable is the only way you can work on the net in 95% of business. > > I disagree with this number. There are plen

[e-gold-list] Re: repudiable payment system

2003-05-29 Thread Offshore Team
whats a debit card got to do with repudiable payments? There are many good debit cads out there (www.freecashcards.com offers a free card which accepts e-gold) yet I dont see that as making the currency anymore popular than e-gold for instance. /.. you wrote: Why not just an e-gol

[e-gold-list] Re: repudiable payment system

2003-05-29 Thread jpm
repudiable, non-repudiable -- never the twain shall meet. It's a waste of time discussing it, as I've learned -- --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when access

[e-gold-list] Re: FW: Re: bananagold redux

2003-05-29 Thread jpm
What do you need Customer Service for? ... John, as with any web site, you get a surprising amount of people emailing asking questions. You can't not have a help desk. Also, with any business, there is no end of small matters to tend to -- for instance, paying Amazon, etc. If it was all aut

[e-gold-list] Shop With Gold Anounces New Site Features!

2003-05-29 Thread Shop With Gold
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[e-gold-list] Re: repudiable payment system

2003-05-29 Thread Robert S.Z.
Hello everyone, Why not just an e-gold debit card that is free to fund but merchants pay 4% plus a security deposit? Talk an issuer into making it an ATM card [again, free to fund, but 4% on withdrawals] and you have not only a ddecent income but also a piece of plastic you can give in exchange fo

[e-gold-list] BOZO ALERT!

2003-05-29 Thread RJL
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[e-gold-list] Re: repudiable payment system

2003-05-29 Thread Cambist.net
> From: Patrick Chkoreff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 13:29:29 -0400 > To: "e-gold Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [e-gold-list] repudiable payment system > 1. Customers want to make impulse purchases and don't want to bother > understanding or funding a DGC account (

[e-gold-list] Re: repudiable payment system

2003-05-29 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
On Wednesday, May 28, 2003, at 02:04 PM, Offshore Team wrote: I don't know what to say about the category 1 people -- are they just whiney, lazy losers? These are the same people who are perfectly capable of opening a bank account, providing state-issued ids, paying bank fees, paying credit

[e-gold-list] Re: repudiable payment system

2003-05-29 Thread Offshore Team
- Original Message - From: Patrick Chkoreff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > The arguments I've seen for repudiable payment systems seem to be: 1. Customers want to make impulse purchases and don't want to bother > understanding or funding a DGC account (and don't want to pay ANY fee > to do so).

[e-gold-list] Re: various replies to various posts

2003-05-29 Thread Robert S.Z.
Hello Danny, > > Newcomers on your site would be much more reluctant to use e-gold if they didn't see > creditcards accepted too. > I never really thought about it that way. But you do have a point of course. I think we added e-gold sometime in 1999 or 2000 because people with no credit cards ke

[e-gold-list] repudiable payment system

2003-05-29 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
On Wednesday, May 28, 2003, at 12:22 PM, Patrick Chkoreff wrote: ... I think the solution, if there is any, will in effect BE a credit card. In other words, the issuer will maintain the credit risk, suffering the occasional default ... James Ray wrote: If a system is repudiable, they are goin

[e-gold-list] Re: get paid for being the first to answer some questions

2003-05-29 Thread yatry
Dear Friends, Stephen Villee generously awarded 5 grams e-gold for the answer of his question - ' According to svillee, why do democratic countries tend to have a progressive income tax?' Thanks for the financial incentive. With Best Regards, Yog Yatry Osho Kala Group Private Limited Kathmandu,

[e-gold-list] Re: Registrars accepting e-gold

2003-05-29 Thread Robert S.Z.
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[e-gold-list] repudiable payment system

2003-05-29 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
On Wednesday, May 28, 2003, at 11:15 AM, Danny Van den Berghe wrote: Oh, you could create repudiable e-gold for example. ... There is a far bigger market for repudiable payments than for non repudiable. Creditcards have of course already taken up on it, but because merchant accounts are still di

[e-gold-list] Re: ideas

2003-05-29 Thread James M. Ray
At 6:15 PM +0300 5/28/03, Danny Van den Berghe wrote: ... >On the net you are frequently dealing with unknown counterparties in unknown (or >uncertain) locations. >Non-repudiable payments is not a realistic option in these cases. >Repudiable is the only way you can work on the net in 95% of busines

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[e-gold-list] Re: ideas

2003-05-29 Thread Danny Van den Berghe
> > Oh, you could create repudiable e-gold for example. > > An interesting idea. > > You can use, for example, I$ escrow system > ((http://internetdollar.com/escrow.html), which, no body uses) or any > other escrow service. Internetdollar is not gold backed isn't it? Repudiable dollars ar

[e-gold-list] Re: various replies to various posts

2003-05-29 Thread Danny Van den Berghe
> > I would disagree with this statement as we have a decent amount of orders > > coming in from all countries using e-gold to pay for our hosting services. > > > Same here. We are getting about 30% of new business from people paying > with e-gold. Last year it was 10%, the year before that next to