Re: [ECOLOG-L] Grad students: what are they worth, and does their work space effect their productivity? Input gratefully accepted

2010-04-26 Thread Melissa Meiner
ous of what the list thinks of this phenomenon? > > > > That being said, I feel that I received a good education and was able to > conduct some important research during that time in spite of the problems. > So, while it was certainly not a perfect situation, it was not > in

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2010-04-26 Thread Aaron T. Dossey
renghi Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2010 09:01:41 -0400 From: aar...@ufl.edu Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] Grad students: what are they worth, and does their work space effect their productivity? Input gratefully accepted To: ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU Hi Alisha, I'm going to piggy back on what Mar

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2010-04-26 Thread Frank Marenghi
-0400 > From: aar...@ufl.edu > Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] Grad students: what are they worth, and does their > work space effect their productivity? Input gratefully accepted > To: ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU > > Hi Alisha, > > I'm going to piggy back on what Mart

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2010-04-24 Thread Amanda Arner
Hi Alisha, I'm going to piggy back on what Marty said. I've been working in the professional world for about 2 years (Museum administration), and about 9 months ago my supervisor and I were forced to give up our private office with a window and move to a group workspace with 9 total people an

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2010-04-23 Thread Sarah Berke
Hi Alisha, You could probably collect some useful data in an afternoon of chatting with faculty and students in your department--administrators care about numbers of publications, grant dollars, and teaching undergraduates so it might be helpful to know: --How many / what proportion of the depart

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2010-04-23 Thread John Withey
Hi Alisha, If you can find some faculty allies to help make your case (both in the value of grad students to the university and in the impact of workspace on your productivity), their voice might carry more weight with campus admin. On our campus "academic student employees" (including TAs and RA

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2010-04-23 Thread Christopher Brown
du website: iweb.tntech.edu/cabrown -Original Message- From: Ecological Society of America: grants, jobs, news [mailto:ecolo...@listserv.umd.edu] On Behalf Of James Crants Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 11:51 AM To: ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] Grad students: what are they worth, and

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2010-04-23 Thread Angela Brandt
Vice President at Large, American Federation of Teachers - Oregon > Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 08:20:43 +0100 > From: rstirnem...@gmail.com > Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] Grad students: what are they worth, and does their > work space effect their productivity? Input gratefully accept

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2010-04-23 Thread Angela Brandt
- Oregon > Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 08:20:43 +0100 > From: rstirnem...@gmail.com > Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] Grad students: what are they worth, and does their > work space effect their productivity? Input gratefully accepted > To: ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU > > Hi, > >

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2010-04-23 Thread Rebecca Stirnemann
Hi, Definitely look into unions (student and work) as there is certain conditions which should be meet. However I was surprised to arrive at my university (XX) and find a lot of students in a prefab building which had many problems, heating, foxes and leaking rooms which went onto computers a

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2010-04-22 Thread Marty Pfeiffer
The responses so far have primarily focused on the value of grad students and not on the impact that workspace has on their productivity. My own experience as a grad student focused on productivity has been as follows. I have appreciated the workspace offered to me on campus and the incredible

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2010-04-22 Thread Eva-Maria Muecke
Dear Alisha, I feel with you. I was fortunately to share my office only with 1-2 students as a graduate student. I can't imagine having done this with 40 folks in a room. I wished I could point you to a reference, but I am also not aware of any literature on the topic. Still, Kevin and Dan

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2010-04-22 Thread Tim Hoelzle
In my limited experience, the graduate environment is determined by your advisor's will to provide appropriate work space and support. Having these types of conversations with potential advisors is an important aspect in choosing a program, in my opinion. In terms of graduate value to a university,

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2010-04-22 Thread James Crants
I went to Michigan, and I would say the Ecology and Evolutionary Biology department there was pretty good to its grad students. If anything, they've been getting better since I started there nine years ago. I'm certainly glad they didn't treat us the way your department is planning to treat you.

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2010-04-22 Thread Lyndell Bade
Hello everyone, I replied directly to Alisha this morning, but I want to throw my hat into the discussion too! These are just my feelings, mind, but I feel like there are/should be studies our there on the "value" (direct and indirect) that graduate students bring to an institution...perhaps throu

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2010-04-22 Thread Andrea Campanella
Alisha, I am a PhD student at New Mexico State University and my advisors always found a way to provide me with a private office space (that I had to share with only another student), travel money, or anything else I needed along the way so I consider myself very lucky in that respect. However, NMS

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2010-04-22 Thread David Blersch
Alisha, While the documentation of the value of graduate students and their services to academia may not exist or be easy to find, there seem to be studies looking at the value of graduate student accommodations in recruitment to a graduate program. That is, better facilities can attract bett

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2010-04-22 Thread Daniel Muth
Alisha, As an abd PhD student I sympathize with your situation. I would like to see my department function without the graduate student population, as they teach many of the classes, produce the majority of the first-author publications, write many of the funding grants, and even take on the peer-

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2010-04-22 Thread Kevin Murray
Hello all, This is a very important topic. I dealt with similar negative attitudes towards grad students during my dissertation work. I know as scientists we like to point to empirical evidence to support a point, but I can't help you there. I don't know of any papers on the matter. However, if yo

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2010-04-22 Thread Julie Byrd Hebert
Alisha I'm glad to see you bringing this topic up. I've been wondering what the climate for graduate students is like at different institutions. I think it is important to know because, in my experience, your description of the value of graduate students (at least to the University Administrators)

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2010-04-22 Thread Alisha Dahlstrom
Hi all, I am currently a phd student in my second year. Currently, within my department, grad students share a small building with several rooms, 5-7 in a room. There is a proposal to uproot all the students (and combine them with grad students in a similar department) to a renovated basement that