Re: Stat question

2001-12-06 Thread Dennis Roberts
the reality of this is ... sometimes getting notes from other students is helpful ... sometimes it is not ... there is no generalization one can make about this most student who NEED notes are not likely to ask people other than their friends ... and, in doing so, probably know which of their

Re: Stat question

2001-12-05 Thread Glen
Jon Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > > You can ask the top students to look at their notes, but you should be prepared > to find that their notes are highly idiosyncratic. Maybe even unusable. Having seen notes of some top students on a variety of occasions (as a student and as a l

Re: Stat question

2001-12-05 Thread Jon Miller
Stan Brown wrote: > Jon Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in sci.stat.edu: > > > >Stan Brown wrote: > > > >> I would respectfully suggest that the OP _first_ carefully study the > >> textbook sections that correspond to the missed lectures, get notes from > >> a classmate > > > >This part is of do

Re: Stat question

2001-12-01 Thread dennis roberts
At 06:13 PM 12/1/01 -0500, Stan Brown wrote: >Jon Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in sci.stat.edu: > > > >Stan Brown wrote: > > > >> I would respectfully suggest that the OP _first_ carefully study the > >> textbook sections that correspond to the missed lectures, get notes from > >> a classmate

Re: Stat question

2001-12-01 Thread Stan Brown
Jon Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in sci.stat.edu: > >Stan Brown wrote: > >> I would respectfully suggest that the OP _first_ carefully study the >> textbook sections that correspond to the missed lectures, get notes from >> a classmate > >This part is of doubtful usefulness. Doubtful? It is "

Re: Stat question

2001-12-01 Thread Jon Miller
Stan Brown wrote: > I would respectfully suggest that the OP _first_ carefully study the > textbook sections that correspond to the missed lectures, get notes from > a classmate This part is of doubtful usefulness. > , and _then_ contact the instructor to fill in any remaining gaps or > answer

Re: Stat question

2001-12-01 Thread Stan Brown
Elliot Cramer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in sci.stat.edu: >Sima <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >: I have missed some lectures on statistics due to heavy illness >: and now i got an assignment which i cannot solve. > >We all feel sorry for you Sima, but perhaps you should talk to your >instructor about

Re: Stat question

2001-11-30 Thread Elliot Cramer
Sima <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: : Dear List Members, : I have missed some lectures on statistics due to heavy illness : and now i got an assignment which i cannot solve. We all feel sorry for you Sima, but perhaps you should talk to your instructor about it. He undoubtedly has office hours.

Stat question

2001-11-25 Thread Sima
Dear List Members, I have missed some lectures on statistics due to heavy illness and now i got an assignment which i cannot solve. Please help me. Below is assignment text: Question 3 Manufacturers of Xeno fuel additive claim that their product increases fuel efficiency by over 10%. A consumer

non stat question: existance of educational programming list?

2001-09-19 Thread EAKIN MARK E
Besides teaching statistics, I have been teaching programming recently. I know there exists a Visual Basic list but does anyone know of a list similar to this one but for teaching programming? Mark Eakin Associate Professor Information Systems and Management Sciences Department University

Re: stat question

2000-11-29 Thread Tony T. Warnock
David Heiser wrote: > There is a lot of stat work involving maximum likelihood estimates, where > there is no probability > support unless you take a Bayesian approach. (Which is infrequent.) Cute = Instructions for joining

Re: stat question

2000-11-24 Thread Herman Rubin
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, dennis roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >the problem with herman's pronouncement is mainly ... it is all or nothing .. >the main purpose of any intro course is to spark some interest in some >students ... >how else would

Re: stat question

2000-11-24 Thread Li0N_iN_0iL
Dennis Roberts wrote about Herman's pronouncement: >he takes the position that no one can benefit from >any intro stat courses ... which we know is a silly >position to take It's worse than silly: it's false. = Instructions for jo

Re: stat question

2000-11-24 Thread dennis roberts
the problem with herman's pronouncement is mainly ... it is all or nothing now, in his case, instead of saying that he thinks that students at the undergraduate level would be BETTER off taking some introductory course in probability ... RATHER than what he perceives as being the only thing taugh

Re: stat question

2000-11-24 Thread Herman Rubin
In article <01c055d0$5408df40$6f38de9e@daheiser>, David Heiser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >- Original Message - >From: Herman Rubin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2000 4:55 PM >Subject: Re:

Re: stat question

2000-11-24 Thread Herman Rubin
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, dennis roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >At 07:55 PM 11/23/00 -0500, Herman Rubin wrote: >>In article <8vk5h2$516l9$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, >>Li0N_iN_0iL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>Herman Rubin wrote: anyone wanting to learn good statistics should not even >>

Re: stat question

2000-11-23 Thread David Heiser
- Original Message - From: Herman Rubin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2000 4:55 PM Subject: Re: stat question > >Herman Rubin wrote: > > >>anyone wanting to learn good statistics should not even > &g

Re: stat question

2000-11-23 Thread dennis roberts
At 07:55 PM 11/23/00 -0500, Herman Rubin wrote: >In article <8vk5h2$516l9$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, >Li0N_iN_0iL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>Herman Rubin wrote: > >>>anyone wanting to learn good statistics should not even >>>consider taking an "undergraduate" statistics course > >>Nonsense. > >Not onl

Re: stat question

2000-11-23 Thread Herman Rubin
In article <8vk5h2$516l9$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Li0N_iN_0iL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Herman Rubin wrote: >>anyone wanting to learn good statistics should not even >>consider taking an "undergraduate" statistics course >Nonsense. Not only is that not nonsense, but it is quite difficult to get s

Re: stat question

2000-11-23 Thread Li0N_iN_0iL
Herman Rubin wrote: >anyone wanting to learn good statistics should not even >consider taking an "undergraduate" statistics course Nonsense. = Instructions for joining and leaving this list and remarks about the problem of INAPPR

Re: stat question

2000-11-15 Thread Herman Rubin
In article , FL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Are there any graduate programs in Statistics that do not require the >GRE for admission? >I have an undergraduate degree in Computer Science and want to pursue a MSc. >in Statistics. However, I have not taken many undergrad

stat question

2000-11-13 Thread FL
Are there any graduate programs in Statistics that do not require the GRE for admission? I have an undergraduate degree in Computer Science and want to pursue a MSc. in Statistics. However, I have not taken many undergraduate Statistics courses. Thanks =

Re: ** Stat question

2000-02-07 Thread Howard S. Hoffman
I get your point. I see this sequence as an example of how good dialogue can lead to education and interesting literary exchange. Howard S. Hoffman Herman Rubin wrote: > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Howard S. Hoffman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >I stand cor

Re: ** Stat question

2000-02-07 Thread Herman Rubin
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Howard S. Hoffman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I stand corrected. I had not considered the requirement of homogeniety of >varience. Sure, if U=2 V must be 0. hence, for certain values of U , V can be >predicted exactly. >

Re: ** Stat question

2000-02-07 Thread Robert Dawson
Jan de Leeuw took his vorpal sword in hand and wrote: > Well ! I can't let that one pass. Let it be noted that Robert Dawson does > not quote but paraphrases Humpty Dumpty. The correct quotation is: > === > "When I use a word, " Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, "it m

Re: ** Stat question

2000-02-07 Thread Jan de Leeuw
Well ! I can't let that one pass. Let it be noted that Robert Dawson does not quote but paraphrases Humpty Dumpty. The correct quotation is: === "When I use a word, " Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, "it means just what I choose it to mean--neither more nor less." "The

Re: ** Stat question

2000-02-07 Thread Robert Dawson
Guidi Chan wrote: > > A fair die is rolled 2 times. X1 and X2 is the # of points showing on > > 1st and 2nd rolls. > > > > U = X1 + X2; V = X1 - X2. > > > > Show that U and V are NOT independent. Howard Hoffman responded: > If you make a scatterplot of all possible values of U and V you will >

Re: ** Stat question

2000-02-06 Thread Howard S. Hoffman
I stand corrected. I had not considered the requirement of homogeniety of varience. Sure, if U=2 V must be 0. hence, for certain values of U , V can be predicted exactly. Howard S. Hoffman Radford Neal wrote: > Guidi Chan wrote: > > >> A fair d

Re: ** Stat question

2000-02-06 Thread Zina Taran
ry 06, 2000 11:05 AM Subject: Re: ** Stat question > > Guidi Chan wrote: > > >> A fair die is rolled 2 times. X1 and X2 is the # of points showing on > >> 1st and 2nd rolls. > >> > >> U = X1 + X2; V = X1 - X2. > >> > >> Show that U an

Re: ** Stat question

2000-02-06 Thread Radford Neal
Guidi Chan wrote: >> A fair die is rolled 2 times. X1 and X2 is the # of points showing on >> 1st and 2nd rolls. >> >> U = X1 + X2; V = X1 - X2. >> >> Show that U and V are NOT independent. In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Howard S. Hoffman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >If you make a scatterplo

Re: ** Stat question

2000-02-06 Thread Henry
On Sun, 06 Feb 2000 15:41:47 GMT, "Howard S. Hoffman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >(a) If you make a scatterplot of all possible values of U and V you will >discover that for every value of U the mean value of V is 0. >(b) In other >words, the slope of the regression of U on V is zero. >(c) This

Re: ** Stat question

2000-02-06 Thread Howard S. Hoffman
If you make a scatterplot of all possible values of U and V you will discover that for every value of U the mean value of V is 0. In other words, the slope of the regression of U on V is zero. This, for me is proof that U and V are independent.

Re: ** Stat question

2000-01-29 Thread Donald F. Burrill
> >> >Guidi Chan wrote: > >> > > A fair die is rolled 2 times. X1 and X2 is the # of > >> > > points showing on 1st and 2nd rolls. > >> > > U = X1 + X2; V = X1 - X2. > >> > > Show that U and V are NOT independent. This question for some reason puts me in mind of a telephone call that was refer

Re: ** Stat question

2000-01-28 Thread Henry
>> >Guidi Chan wrote: >> > > A fair die is rolled 2 times. X1 and X2 is the # of >> > > points showing on 1st and 2nd rolls. >> > > U = X1 + X2; V = X1 - X2. >> > > Show that U and V are NOT independent. >Herman Rubin wrote: >> I suggest that, instead, you think about the intuitive >> meaning o

Re: ** Stat question

2000-01-28 Thread Charles Metz
Herman Rubin wrote: > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Charles Metz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Guidi Chan wrote: > > > > A fair die is rolled 2 times. X1 and X2 is the # of > > > points showing on 1st and 2nd rolls. > > > > U = X1 + X2; V = X1 - X2. > > > > Show that U and V are NOT in

Re: ** Stat question

2000-01-27 Thread Donald F. Burrill
On Thu, 27 Jan 2000, Guidi Chan wrote: > I've kinda hit a road block trying to figure out this question, it's a > pretty basic question but it's been a while since I've taken a stats > course so perhaps I could get some hints: > > A fair die is rolled 2 times. X1 and X2 is the # of points showi

Re: ** Stat question

2000-01-27 Thread Herman Rubin
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Charles Metz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Guidi Chan wrote: > > A fair die is rolled 2 times. X1 and X2 is the # of > > points showing on 1st and 2nd rolls. > > U = X1 + X2; V = X1 - X2. > > Show that U and V are NOT independent. --snip-- > > I'm basically stu

Re: ** Stat question

2000-01-27 Thread Charles Metz
Guidi Chan wrote: > A fair die is rolled 2 times. X1 and X2 is the # of > points showing on 1st and 2nd rolls. > > U = X1 + X2; V = X1 - X2. > > Show that U and V are NOT independent. --snip-- > I'm basically stuck at trying to show that there not > independent. Try thinking about t

** Stat question

2000-01-27 Thread Guidi Chan
Hello, I've kinda hit a road block trying to figure out this question, it's a pretty basic question but it's been a while since I've taken a stats course so perhaps I could get some hints: Question: A fair die is rolled 2 times. X1 and X2 is the # of points showing on 1st and 2nd rolls. U = X