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From: Arthur [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Well I have found the IDLE-Dev list to be a bit of a sink hole.
For those who don't follow it, the most recent post to the IDLE-dev list
was, to me, interesting.
Art,
You've made your feelings about turtle.py abundantly clear. I would only
suggest that (contrary to your implications) we benighted individuals
who actually use the module in teaching and want improve it are also
passionate, moral and even (perhaps) intelligent. Or at least we deserve
the
Arthur wrote:
Starting with:
What is the importance of having your improved module part of the standard
distribution?
Teachers in many school situations don't even have control of what
software is on the machines their students use. They need to request an
installation from tech support.
What is the importance of having your improved module part of the standard
distribution?
The current turtle.py module it is already in the standard distribution. Why
should not an *improved* version remain in the standard distribution?
Quite a few instructors already rely on turtle.py being
Arthur schrieb:
-Original Message-
From: Arthur [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
...
One argument against an official turtle.py module, is that it will be the
Phone Company's Turtle, and the forces of agility and merit will be lost.
To me it is better if folks wanting a serious turtle
[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb:
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From: Vern Ceder [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I was asked submit the enhacements by Raymond Hettinger. I
foolishly
thought it might be good to ask for input on the nature of the
improvements before doing so. If you want to have an argument
I think it would be a real shame if this discussion moved off-list,
and a failure of the lists purpose. Turtle graphics have been a
mainstay of computers in education for years and have proved their
worth in that regard. The turtle.py module is minimal, and isn't
going to be taken out of the
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From: Gregor Lingl [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Friday, March 3, 2006 5:23 pm
Subject: Re: [Edu-sig] IDLE wish (was Edu-sig Digest, Vol 31, Issue 16)
Arthur schrieb:
Some of them feel, that the module is not adequate for their needs and
they propose to enhance it.
Dethe Elza wrote:
Back to the subject of improved turtles, I think there could be a
two-pronged approach. The first prong would be to provide incremental
improvements to the existing turtle.py (and possibly IDLE) within the
standard distribution...
Along this prong, how about a list of
In a message of Fri, 03 Mar 2006 17:58:20 EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I have stated that I thought that the current module, as it is, was an a
ppropriate proof
of concept. It would never occur to me that Guido would not put the modul
e he thought
most appropriate in his distribution. He has
On 3/3/06, kirby urner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So with my 8th graders this week, we were back to writing a class.
Here's the eventual definition:
class Monkey:
[snip] Very nice example deleted...
Kirby: any reason why you use old style classes?
André
Not really -- just cuz I don't want to explain the difference and
old-style is even simpler syntax. My expectation, maybe wrong, is by
the time these kids are old enough to use Python on the job, the
old-style syntax will automatically create a new style class (as the
old style will have gone
On 3/3/06, kirby urner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Not really -- just cuz I don't want to explain the difference and
old-style is even simpler syntax. My expectation, maybe wrong, is by
the time these kids are old enough to use Python on the job, the
old-style syntax will automatically create a
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