Re: [Elecraft] Ideas for an FT8 Radio

2018-12-30 Thread W2xj
Digests are from the early 90s. Totally unnecessary in this day and age. Sent from my iPad > On Dec 30, 2018, at 11:15 PM, Jim Brown wrote: > >> On 12/30/2018 7:36 PM, Wes Stewart wrote: >> For the life of me I don't know what all of the hand-wringing is about with >> OT posts. > > I suspec

Re: [Elecraft] Ideas for an FT8 Radio

2018-12-30 Thread Jim Brown
On 12/30/2018 7:36 PM, Wes Stewart wrote: For the life of me I don't know what all of the hand-wringing is about with OT posts. I suspect that the complaints come from those who choose to read a digest, or who don't use a decent email client. My delete key has always worked quite well. 73,

[Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Report

2018-12-30 Thread kevinr
Good Evening,    Conditions on both bands were fair.  Both had some form of QSB but forty meters had a growing noise problem.  The sun is setting during the second net so the conditions change quickly.  Moving the net time forward made the difference between me not hearing anyone to what we h

Re: [Elecraft] Ideas for an FT8 Radio

2018-12-30 Thread Wes Stewart
When a post has "FT8" in the subject line, it's an automatic delete. I only opened this one because Bob wrote it. BTW, I too use Thunderbird, but don't use any filters etc.  I find that I'm perfectly capable of deleting unwanted posts by myself.  For the life of me I don't know what all of the

Re: [Elecraft] Ideas for an FT8 Radio

2018-12-30 Thread Bob McGraw K4TAX
My interest is already diminished to zero. 73 Bob, K4TAX On 12/30/2018 7:56 PM, Devin Butterfield wrote: I also agree that a one-mode radio wouldn’t be of interest for very long. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net

Re: [Elecraft] KAT500/KPA500 with Icom 7600 accessory cable

2018-12-30 Thread Bob McGraw K4TAX
I have followed this discussion with interest.    I do agree with Jack the issue seems to be related to a grounding issue.  And I agree with Jim as his assessment likewise.   His work and that of W. Silver from ARRL does support this thinking.   [The ARRL publication Grounding and Bonding for T

Re: [Elecraft] KAT500/KPA500 with Icom 7600 accessory cable

2018-12-30 Thread Jack Brindle via Elecraft
Let’s take a step back and make sure the KAT500 and KPA500 work properly with RF sensing for a tune. Unplug the mini-phone plug from the KAT500. This will leave the KAT powered from the 7600, but requesting a tune from the 7600 won’t cause the KAT to respond. Next key the radio and make sure eve

Re: [Elecraft] KAT500/KPA500 with Icom 7600 accessory cable

2018-12-30 Thread Ken B via Elecraft
Thank you - I followed Fig 3 on page 10 which is specific to ICOM. Yes all cables ohm'd out with no shorts   From: Jack Brindle To: Ken B Cc: "elecraft@mailman.qth.net" Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2018 8:28 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KAT500/KPA500 with Icom 7600 accessory cable Gr

Re: [Elecraft] KAT500/KPA500 with Icom 7600 accessory cable

2018-12-30 Thread Walter Underwood
Last night I dreamed that I was pounding two ground rods into the garden. They went in very easily. wunder K6WRU Walter Underwood CM87wj http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog) > On Dec 30, 2018, at 5:30 PM, Jim Brown wrote: > > That's not nearly enough. EVERYTHING in your home must be bond

Re: [Elecraft] KAT500/KPA500 with Icom 7600 accessory cable

2018-12-30 Thread Ken B via Elecraft
I can easily attest that all the grounds are bonded together in the panel. Everything related to the station is on the same strip with a 0 ohm potential to the ground rod Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Sun, Dec 30, 2018 at 8:32 PM, Jim Brown wrote: That's not nearly enough.  EVERYTHING

Re: [Elecraft] Ideas for an FT8 Radio

2018-12-30 Thread John Harper
Here's the thread - scroll down to message #27527: https://groups.io/g/QRPLabs/topic/no_ft8_in_the_upcoming_qsx/27317246?p=,,,20,0,0,0::recentpostdate%2Fsticky,,,20,2,0,27317246 John AE5X https://ae5x.blogspot.com On Sun, Dec 30, 2018 at 7:56 PM Devin Butterfield < devin.butterfi...@gmail.com>

Re: [Elecraft] Ideas for an FT8 Radio

2018-12-30 Thread Devin Butterfield
One of the potential issues no one has mentioned is that JT and friends released the code for FT8 under the GNU GPL license. This means if you link this into any proprietary closed device or firmware, you would violate the terms of the license. You would have to either: 1. Write a cleanroom i

[Elecraft] Ideas for an FT8 Radio

2018-12-30 Thread John Harper
The upcoming QSX kit from G0UPL may have FT8 capability. Hans announced that it will run PSK31, WSPR and RTTY natively, ie on firmware within the rig. Another ham, a Latvian I believe, asked "Why not FT8 too?" Hans offered him a free QSX if he could write the code for FT8 capability to exist withi

Re: [Elecraft] How to unsubscribe from reflector?

2018-12-30 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
Email me. Eric elecraft.com _..._ > On Dec 30, 2018, at 1:56 PM, Nr4c wrote: > > Did anybody explain how to unsubscribe a SK from the list? > > Sent from my iPhone > ...nr4c. bill > > >> On Dec 30, 2018, at 11:29 AM, Gwen Patton wrote: >> >> I use Password Safe by Bruce Schneier. It secu

Re: [Elecraft] KAT500/KPA500 with Icom 7600 accessory cable

2018-12-30 Thread Jim Brown
That's not nearly enough.  EVERYTHING in your home must be bonded together -- power, telco, CATV, your antennas, and all ground rods.  Two places to learn it -- N0AX's recent ARRL book on grounding and bonding, and my own tutorial, upon which much of Ward's book is based. http://k9yc.com/Groun

Re: [Elecraft] KAT500/KPA500 with Icom 7600 accessory cable

2018-12-30 Thread Jack Brindle via Elecraft
Great! Thanks for the detail. Table 2 on page 8 of the KAT500 manual should have given you the exact connections you needed to make for the Molex to KAT500 cable. Note that the plug o the KAt500 end is stereo with tip, ring and sleeve. Please recheck these connections to make sure that pin 4 of

Re: [Elecraft] Ideas for an FT8 Radio

2018-12-30 Thread a******@sbcglobal
That is key. In a little while FT8 will fall out of favor as amateurs move on to the next digital mode, a cycle that has repeated for the entire history of digital modes. An FT8 specific radio wouldn’t interest, but an “infinitely flexible” digital mode platform with integral computer might.

Re: [Elecraft] Fwd: KPA1500 problem

2018-12-30 Thread Mark Goldberg
It's been said before. Check your cables and connectors for arcing. It won't happen with lower power but as the voltage goes up with higher power it may arc across a bad cable or connector. Possibly even in a tuner. Can you test with different cables or a dummy load? 73, Mark On Sun, Dec 30, 2

[Elecraft] Fwd: KPA1500 problem

2018-12-30 Thread Steve
Sent from my I-Phone Begin forwarded message: > GE, folks > My KPA1500 (s/n 121) has developed a problem: > When applying power (15-20W) from the K3 to the amp, it immediately faults > to:low gain fault ratio 3 (sometimes ratio 2 to ratio 6). The SWR indicator > shows high SWR as the amp f

Re: [Elecraft] Ideas for an FT8 Radio

2018-12-30 Thread Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT
If the radio was basically a Pi Hat then upgrading the computer would be relatively easy. and using a standard, commonly available computer means that you could run useful modes, and modes that have yet to be invented, not just FT8. 73 -- Lynn On 12/30/2018 1:38 PM, Todd wrote: Have a

Re: [Elecraft] KAT500/KPA500 with Icom 7600 accessory cable

2018-12-30 Thread Ken B via Elecraft
Good evening  The Icom IC-7600 KAT500, and KPA500 are each grounded to a single terminal strip with a #10 cable directly to a ground rod 15 ft away. The rod is  12 ft deep. Both the KAP and KTA were factory built as my soldering skills have diminished since the Army training. The IC7600 - In th

[Elecraft] Elecraft SSB Net Summary for Sunday December 30, 2018

2018-12-30 Thread Jim White NC0JW
The last Elecraft SSB Net of 2018 saw a very slight improvement in propagation with 25 check ins. Once again this week, John N6JW, was heard by many of the stations operating his KX3 using a Ham Stick mounted on his bicycle from Riverside, CA. He was even able to provide a couple of relays. A

[Elecraft] P3 Encoder button question

2018-12-30 Thread Gary Smith
I may have some wear on my encoder button in the P3. The encoder itself seems fine, when I rotate it, it performs perfectly. When I push on it, often the marker does not move or, it moves the frequency part way. If I hold the knob and apply a little downward pressure when pushing it usually

[Elecraft] Elecraft Sunday Net

2018-12-30 Thread Eric Lanzl
Let me try again to post the net log for today's net. Happy New year to everyone. Eric WB9JNZ Elecraft SSB Net 12-30-2018 WB9JNZ Eric IL K34017 Net Control NC0JW Jim CO KX31356 relay station N6JW John CA KX3 515bicycle mobile relay station K1NW Brian RI K34974 relay station AE6JV Bil

Re: [Elecraft] KAT500/KPA500 with Icom 7600 accessory cable

2018-12-30 Thread Jack Brindle via Elecraft
Yeah, but we really want to get the problem solved so you can enjoy your KPA500 and KAT500 as much as we enjoy ours. That connection list will be most helpful in this effort. My thinking on the ground issue is that the power-plug ground is completing a circuit that should not exist and thus disr

Re: [Elecraft] KAT500/KPA500 with Icom 7600 accessory cable

2018-12-30 Thread Ken B via Elecraft
Please allow me to clairify.   Everyone deserves time off.  I work 60 to 70 hrs per week and appricate the down time  Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Sun, Dec 30, 2018 at 5:07 PM, Jack Brindle wrote: The folks in Watsonville are taking a well deserved rest, but some of us are still aro

Re: [Elecraft] KAT500/KPA500 with Icom 7600 accessory cable

2018-12-30 Thread Jack Brindle via Elecraft
The folks in Watsonville are taking a well deserved rest, but some of us are still around. This sounds a lot like a grounding issue in your setup with ground being completed through the wall power ground pin. Tell me exactly all of the cables/connections going to the KPA500 (and from where). Whi

Re: [Elecraft] How to unsubscribe from reflector?

2018-12-30 Thread Nr4c
Did anybody explain how to unsubscribe a SK from the list? Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill > On Dec 30, 2018, at 11:29 AM, Gwen Patton wrote: > > I use Password Safe by Bruce Schneier. It secures your passwords in a LOCAL > file, not on the cloud, encrypted, and has a generator in it for cre

Re: [Elecraft] KAT500/KPA500 with Icom 7600 accessory cable

2018-12-30 Thread Ken B via Elecraft
Thanks for the suggestion  Sorry for the delay the wife and I went out. The only way I can get it all to work properly is to:- Remove AC power from the AMP (simply turning it off dowes not work) - On the radio (icom 7600) select the band (ensure auto tuner on Radio is off) - On Radio select AM a

Re: [Elecraft] Ideas for an FT8 Radio

2018-12-30 Thread Todd
Have a look at some of OH8STN's you tube videos. He's done a lot of portable FT8 ops and has a lot of neat ideas... Later, Todd KH2TJ Doug Millar via Elecraft wrote: Ok, I am going out on a limb. I have been trying to imagine an FT8 all in one radio.

Re: [Elecraft] Ideas for an FT8 Radio

2018-12-30 Thread Walter Underwood
Two words, “WSJT-X 2.0”. :-) With five year old software, you wouldn’t be running any kind of FT8. I worked on software for test and measurement instruments at HP. Even twenty years ago, software was moving out of the box into general purpose computers. wunder K6WRU Walter Underwood CM87wj http

Re: [Elecraft] Ideas for an FT8 Radio

2018-12-30 Thread Jeff Stai
hi Don - Indeed. I had a line in there about being mindful of bluetooth delays but it somehow disappeared. ;) 73 jeff wk6i On Sun, Dec 30, 2018 at 12:55 PM Don Wilhelm wrote: > Jeff, > > Concept is good, but ignores the latency problem with Bluetooth. I > think that would be a "killer" for dat

Re: [Elecraft] Ideas for an FT8 Radio

2018-12-30 Thread Don Wilhelm
Jeff, Concept is good, but ignores the latency problem with Bluetooth. I think that would be a "killer" for data modes like FT8 which need rather precise timing. To get an idea about the latency of Bluetooth, try monitoring your CW with a Bluetooth headset - unless you are a slow operator,

Re: [Elecraft] Ideas for an FT8 Radio

2018-12-30 Thread Phil Kane
On 12/30/2018 11:20 AM, Walter Underwood wrote: > So after five years, the radio will still be competitive, but the computer > might not even run current software. But then again, why update the software when it's doing the job that it was intended for. A close friend runs his very successful b

[Elecraft] Elecraft Sunday net 12-30- 2018

2018-12-30 Thread Eric Lanzl
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Re: [Elecraft] Ideas for an FT8 Radio

2018-12-30 Thread W2xj
Unless there is enough demand for someone to make it happen. Sent from my iPad > On Dec 30, 2018, at 2:26 PM, Jeff Stai wrote: > > Hmmm... as long as you use a generic tablet with a KX2, you're going to > have a box and wires. You could go tablet to USB box and then maybe find > wireless solut

Re: [Elecraft] Ideas for an FT8 Radio

2018-12-30 Thread Jeff Stai
Hmmm... as long as you use a generic tablet with a KX2, you're going to have a box and wires. You could go tablet to USB box and then maybe find wireless solutions from there. I see there are chargeable bluetooth audio receivers, for example. I've never seen a simple USB wireless extension, however

Re: [Elecraft] Ideas for an FT8 Radio

2018-12-30 Thread Walter Underwood
One issue with an all-in-one is that computer technology improves much, much faster than radio technology. So after five years, the radio will still be competitive, but the computer might not even run current software. wunder K6WRU Walter Underwood CM87wj http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog

Re: [Elecraft] Ideas for an FT8 Radio

2018-12-30 Thread Doug Millar via Elecraft
Hi Jeff, Good ideas all around. Of course i was thinking of the KX2 and a tablet. I actually went portable in the with that setup. What I didn't like was all the wires and the USB box. If I could get straight from the KX2 to the tablet with audio and rig control that might do the trick. What do

Re: [Elecraft] Ideas for an FT8 Radio

2018-12-30 Thread Jeff Stai
Well, since we are dreaming about things that probably won't happen...;) An all in one appeals because it is portable, perhaps even trail ready. There are plenty of good mini keyboard/trackpads units already out there, so use one of those. Since you are using an external keyboard, skip the complex

Re: [Elecraft] How to unsubscribe from reflector?

2018-12-30 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
Folks, lets close this way OT password thread now in the interest of relieving email overload for others. 73, Eric Moderator elecraft.com _..._ > On Dec 30, 2018, at 8:29 AM, Gwen Patton wrote: > > I use Password Safe by Bruce Schneier. It secures your passwords in a LOCAL > ___

Re: [Elecraft] How to unsubscribe from reflector?

2018-12-30 Thread Gwen Patton
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Re: [Elecraft] How to unsubscribe from reflector?

2018-12-30 Thread David Woolley
On 30/12/2018 00:04, W2xj wrote: Work for most large media companies worth billions and writing down passwords will have security escorting you out of the building, a lost pension and a major followup security investigation. Passwords have become unworkable as a security measure. Too many si

Re: [Elecraft] KAT500/KPA500 with Icom 7600 accessory cable

2018-12-30 Thread Ken B via Elecraft
Yes  from the 7600 accessory 1 pin 3 to the kat500 Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Sun, Dec 30, 2018 at 4:52 AM, Don Wilhelm wrote: Ken, Do you have the cable wired first to the KAT500 and then on to the KPA500? The KAT500 must interrupt the keying of the KPA500 when it needs to tune.