Re: [Elecraft] FT8 - was "On Second Thought, I'll Take The Stairs"

2020-07-12 Thread Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT
But apparently, according to other posts on this list, DXing and CW is Amateur Radio, and if you don't have fun doing that, you aren't really a ham. Oh well. 73 -- Lynn On 7/12/20 6:32 PM, Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT wrote: I was trying to remember JS8CALL -- thanks for the reminder. The best

Re: [Elecraft] FT8 - was "On Second Thought, I'll Take The Stairs"

2020-07-12 Thread David Gilbert
First of all, there is no comparison between the cost of what you just described and the cost of the software required to provide what I hypothesized.  Secondly, what I hypothesized would stack on top of what you described without conflict. So I'm afraid I really don't understand the point

Re: [Elecraft] FT8 - was "On Second Thought, I'll Take The Stairs"

2020-07-12 Thread WILLIE BABER
There is a way to improve the signal to noise of the CW signal.  It is called the yagi or beam antenna. The tower, guy system, beam, feedline, connectors, and switching, all have considerable appeal for some of us, the same as a good paddle, or a K3 radio. My four towers and yagis were built by

[Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Report

2020-07-12 Thread kevinr
Good Evening, Twenty meters was surprising.  Brian came on early with a very loud signal.  Dave and Roy were both weaker than normal.  Easy copy because the band was not as noisy.  John did have the noise of a storm covering him even though his signal was good too.  Jim had a great signal but

Re: [Elecraft] FT8 - was "On Second Thought, I'll Take The Stairs"

2020-07-12 Thread Wayne Burdick
> On Jul 12, 2020, at 6:57 PM, David Gilbert wrote: > > Think of it this way ... CW works fine as both a contest mode, DXing mode, > and conversational mode. Underlaying CW with a well configured digital > signal processing scheme like that which is under FT8, except with a > different

Re: [Elecraft] FT8 - was "On Second Thought, I'll Take The Stairs"

2020-07-12 Thread David Gilbert
Not quite.  I'm aware of JS8 and tried it more than a year ago, but it still has much of the rigidity of the WSJT-X user interface and isn't as basic as I think would be desirable. Think of it this way ... CW works fine as both a contest mode, DXing mode, and conversational mode. 

Re: [Elecraft] On Second thought ,,,,,,

2020-07-12 Thread Donald Schliesser
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Re: [Elecraft] FT8 - was "On Second Thought, I'll Take The Stairs"

2020-07-12 Thread Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT
I was trying to remember JS8CALL -- thanks for the reminder. The best thing about this hobby is that there are so many options and so many different things you can do. David, in my off-list message, I was thinking of JS8CALL. 73 -- Lynn On 7/12/20 6:18 PM, Lyn Norstad wrote: Enter JS8Call.

Re: [Elecraft] Wayne's Story - "On Second Thought, I'll Take The Stairs"

2020-07-12 Thread Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT
With all due respect, Rick, that argument works both ways. I see why people would want to go on a DXpedition. It's quite an adventure. I can understand certificate hunting, DXCC and all of that. I get the people who are totally into linking VHF/UHF via the Internet. There is a vast amount of

Re: [Elecraft] FT8 - was "On Second Thought, I'll Take The Stairs"

2020-07-12 Thread Lyn Norstad
Enter JS8Call. All the technology of FT8, plus all of the conversationality of CW, RTTY and SSB rolled into one. If you haven't tried it, you really should. It's developer, Jordan Sherer (KN4CRD) has done a terrific job with it and I am honored to have been a part of the beta team almost

[Elecraft] FT8 - was "On Second Thought, I'll Take The Stairs"

2020-07-12 Thread David Gilbert
Well, the fact is that the coding and processing behind modes like FT8 doesn't have to be as rigid as is implemented in WSJT-X.  It only requires that information be sent and received in time frames, and those time frames are simply a function of three variables ... bandwidth, rate, and

Re: [Elecraft] Wayne's Story - "On Second Thought, I'll Take The Stairs"

2020-07-12 Thread Rick NK7I
You’ve just defined the vast majority of DX (and DXpedition in particular) contacts. That doesn’t make less a part of ham radio. Rick NK7I Email spiel Czech corruptions happen > On Jul 12, 2020, at 4:54 PM, Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT > wrote: > > ... but if all you're doing is meeting the

Re: [Elecraft] Wayne's Story - "On Second Thought, I'll Take The Stairs"

2020-07-12 Thread Jim Rhodes
The truly great thing about amateur radio is that there are so very many things that an operator can do. Since I retired and downsized to an apartment with no tower or beam in an urban environment I find myself using those very weak signal modes. Still have the KPA500 and KAT500, but using that

Re: [Elecraft] Wayne's Story - "On Second Thought, I'll Take The Stairs"

2020-07-12 Thread Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT
Yeah, great, reliable at or below the noise floor, but if all you're doing is meeting the somewhat arbitrary minimum that defines a QSO, what's the point? I mean seriously, can you even ask about the weather? Just say "hi?" Meh. I'm fine with typing, but I want a real live person typing

Re: [Elecraft] "On second thought, I'll take the stairs."

2020-07-12 Thread Bill Frantz
I sympathise with Andy's view, but there's another way of looking at it: Suppose you like tha ancient art of conversation with strangers, which I do. In fact, I'm doing it now. Now, what strangers do you want to select from? There are the people next to you in line at the airport (or at

[Elecraft] "On second thought, I'll take the stairs."

2020-07-12 Thread Andy Durbin
I'm as old as many here but, unlike most here, I left amateur radio for 40 years after my initial teenage enthusiasm as a "G3". My 15-17 wpm copy capability and a reasonable fist with an English WT-8A were completely lost. When I started over I had to learn the alphabet almost from scratch.

[Elecraft] WTB: K2

2020-07-12 Thread ROBIN J KIDD
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Re: [Elecraft] Wayne's Story - "On Second Thought, I'll Take The Stairs"

2020-07-12 Thread Wayne Burdick
Hi Tony, > Tony Estep wrote: > > I've tried FT8 and even WiresX, but neither one seems much like radio. The > digital qso via an internet gateway seems particularly pointless, sorta > like a zoom call with a completely random person. Now there's a new one. It'll take me awhile to shake this

Re: [Elecraft] "On second thought, I'll take the stairs."

2020-07-12 Thread Courtney Krehbiel
Very well done Wayne! For what it's worth, when someone asks me why ham radio and CW in the era of cell phones and internet, I usually ask them the question "Why do people buy sailboats?". It's a great way to start the conversation, and I usually see lights go on. As you eloquently

Re: [Elecraft] Wayne's Story - "On Second Thought, I'll Take The Stairs

2020-07-12 Thread Tony Estep
On Sun, Jul 12, 2020 at 3:52 PM Jim Ewing wrote: > ...people who can express their love and > talent for cw... = Yep. Well, we all have a life history with radio. Mine began with a real-life crystal set, the kind with a chunk of galena and a whisker and a coil wound over an oatmeal

Re: [Elecraft] "On second thought, I'll take the stairs."

2020-07-12 Thread Macy monkeys
I'm all for learning CW but I hope those who graduate take it further than just the midweek CWT and weekend contests. I enjoy a good CW raghew and those are becoming mighty rare. John K7FD > On Jul 12, 2020, at 1:18 PM, "weave...@usermail.com" > wrote: > > Hi Steve, > Welcome to the ham

Re: [Elecraft] Wayne's Story - "On Second Thought, I'll Take The Stairs

2020-07-12 Thread hawley, charles j jr
I've been riding a motorcycle for 50 years...now I know why. I did read Pirsig's book when it was first published, but didn't remember this. I did remember that his friend rode a BMW and Pirsig made shims for the BMW's handlebar mounts out of a beer can, but was careful to never tell his

Re: [Elecraft] "On second thought, I'll take the stairs."

2020-07-12 Thread Morgan Bailey, II
This is excellent. > > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help

[Elecraft] Wayne's Story - "On Second Thought, I'll Take The Stairs

2020-07-12 Thread Jim Ewing
Relevant to what Wayne said is this quote from Pirsig: *“That's all the motorcycle is, a system of concepts worked out in steel. There's no part in it, no shape in it, that is not out of someone's mind [...] I've noticed that people who have never worked with steel have trouble seeing this—that

Re: [Elecraft] "On second thought, I'll take the stairs."

2020-07-12 Thread weave...@usermail.com
Hi Steve, Welcome to the ham community. If you are interested in CW operation I encourage you to look at the CW Academy sponsored CWOps at CWops.org. There is a program to carry you from beginner to 25 WPM with proper instruction along the way. That KX3 is a great radio for CW or any other mode

Re: [Elecraft] "On second thought, I'll take the stairs."

2020-07-12 Thread Steve Belunek
Hi Wayne, As a new ham, having just joined this list and excitedly awaiting my first HF rig (a KX3), I really appreciate this perspective. I had considered whether to pursue getting into HF and DX, and what radio in general could offer over more "instant-gratification" forms of communication

Re: [Elecraft] "On second thought, I'll take the stairs."

2020-07-12 Thread Bill Johnson
Wayne, As I constantly tell myself, never to late or too old to learn. Your stories tells a lot. I am encouraged to use CW more 72 & 73, Bill K9YEQ FT'er for K2, KX1, KX3, KXPA100, KAT500, W2, etc. -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net On Behalf Of Wayne

Re: [Elecraft] K2 LCD Backlight Diffuser

2020-07-12 Thread Don Wilhelm
Barry, The new backlight assembly was Wayne's creation which became necessary when the one piece backlight became unavailable.  Murray has one of the older assemblies. Follow the instructions that shipped with your K2.  Be certain to read and heed the errata pages. 73, Don W3FPR On

Re: [Elecraft] K2 LCD Backlight Diffuser

2020-07-12 Thread barry halterman
I too am building a K2, sn 7954. They are using a LED bar for the back light with a spacer instead of the cut off pcb material. The diffuser ends have cutouts that sit on the LED bars. Wonder where Elecraft found these gems Barry On Sun, Jul 12, 2020, 1:23 PM Don Wilhelm wrote: > Murray, >

[Elecraft] Remember all the Elecraft Nets

2020-07-12 Thread Paul Van Dyke
We have various ones ... stretch and meet others. Propagation means it all changes.. Put a copy up in your shack Paul - KB9AVO The Elecraft Nets -- 20 Meter SSB Elecraft Net Sunday 14.3035 +/- kHz at 1800Z 40

Re: [Elecraft] "On second thought, I'll take the stairs."

2020-07-12 Thread Bill Steffey NY9H
wow  ...  he is so young !!!   I am so old,,, I was just browsing thru several months of 1955 Pop electronics and reading the Carl & Jerry stories. Here are ALL the PE magazines starting in 1954 https://worldradiohistory.com/Popular-Electronics-Guide.htm Of course they save the world,

Re: [Elecraft] "On second thought, I'll take the stairs."

2020-07-12 Thread Wayne Burdick
Hi John, Thanks for bringing Carl and Jerry to my attention. I'd never heard of until now (born too late, apparently). Here's a fascinating article about these fictional characters, from Popular Science, circa 1960: http://www.copperwood.com/carlandjerry.htm 73, Wayne N6KR > On Jul 12,

Re: [Elecraft] "On second thought, I'll take the stairs."

2020-07-12 Thread Wayne Burdick
Hi JC, Thanks for the note on CWOPS. I hope to sign up for this myself. 73, Wayne N6KR > On Jul 12, 2020, at 10:38 AM, W6IPA wrote: > > Wayne, > > This is great - however, here is how anyone can help train more CW operators. > I am still a beginner in CW, so I’m not yet feeling

Re: [Elecraft] KX3 power out

2020-07-12 Thread Edward R Cole
I also have the KX3 with 2m module and ATU. My understanding is Auto is used to tune the antenna but you then switch to MAN to operate after the ATU tunes to your antenna (my KXPA100/KXTA100 works the same way). My original 2m module (kit) did not reach full output so I returned the module

Re: [Elecraft] "On second thought, I'll take the stairs."

2020-07-12 Thread W6IPA
Wayne, This is great - however, here is how anyone can help train more CW operators. I am still a beginner in CW, so I’m not yet feeling “competent". But I’m sure this list has plenty of them. I received this from CWOPS’ CW Academy recently: > For a number of reasons, we are having an enormous

Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft K1 power realignment

2020-07-12 Thread Don Wilhelm
Al, You will have to remove the ATU. Install the jumper in band board J8 between pins 1 and 8. If your K1 does not have a "K1/ATU" switch next to the BNC jack, you will have to re-install R36 on the bottom of the board - it should have been left with one leg still soldered. The lack of

Re: [Elecraft] K2 LCD Backlight Diffuser

2020-07-12 Thread Don Wilhelm
Murray, Those diffuser leads should just touch the top of the board since 2 spacers are 1/8 inch and the leads are also 1/8 inch. Solder them from the top of the board - being careful so the iron does not touch anything but the leads and the solder pads. If the leads do not touch the

[Elecraft] K2 LCD Backlight Diffuser

2020-07-12 Thread zk2boy
I am just getting around to building my K2 that I purchased in 2008. I've been busy. But I'm having fun now! I have  the K2 Owner's Manual Revision G, May 29, 2007. I also have Errata sheet Rev. G-1, Dec. 12, 2007. In the Front Panel section, page 27, the original instruction advises to use

Re: [Elecraft] K2 Af Gain potmeter

2020-07-12 Thread Dave Van Wallaghen
Hi Jo's, As Don stated, it is probably a bad pot which are pretty far and few between since the AF gain mod years ago. You can simply order another one from Elecraft here: https://elecraft.com/pages/parts-mod-kits The Elecraft part number is E520003. Hope this helps. 73, Dave, W8FGU On July

Re: [Elecraft] K2 Af Gain potmeter

2020-07-12 Thread Don Wilhelm
Jos, If you can find another control with the same shaft length and footprint, You can use it. I suspect that you had a defective one - after the AF Gain Wiring was changed (and incorporated onto the boards after SN 3000) the number of AF Gain potentiometers that became scratchy dropped to

Re: [Elecraft] "On second thought, I'll take the stairs."

2020-07-12 Thread Bill Frantz
I love Wayne's story, which demonstrates how much more value you get from mastering activities that involve some difficulty. As others have pointed out, it is very well written too. However, sometimes those arguments don't work. When that happens, my favorite argument is: And how do you ask

Re: [Elecraft] "On second thought, I'll take the stairs."

2020-07-12 Thread Michael Downs
Nice story Wayne. I’m 75 going on extinction. I always take the stairs too and I walk three to four miles a day. Keeps the mind clear and the fist strong. 73 & good DX Mike KS7D Sent from my iPhone www.ks7d.com > On Jul 12, 2020, at 11:26 AM, Jim Sheldon wrote: > > Outstanding story Wayne!

Re: [Elecraft] "On second thought, I'll take the stairs."

2020-07-12 Thread David Herring
Wayne, You know from our previous conversations that I am a writer as well. I so appreciate reading a good story that’s well written. What takes a well written story from good to great is its effectiveness, that is, when the story causes the reader to move or act. I caught myself a few

Re: [Elecraft] "On second thought, I'll take the stairs."

2020-07-12 Thread John
Thanks Wayne. Reminded me of Carl and Jerry. 73. John. ve7day. On 12/07/2020 8:07 a.m., Wayne Burdick wrote: I have a friend about my age who got into amateur radio only a few years ago. Like many of us, he was enthusiastic about the technology. Intrigued with DX. I showed him my

Re: [Elecraft] "On second thought, I'll take the stairs."

2020-07-12 Thread David Thompson via Elecraft
Morning Wayne, From one writer to another, that was a very nice piece! Like Elecraft radios, it was well-crafted and had just the right amount of “stuff.” I’ve been a ham for a little more than a year. I’ve worked quite a few stations using FT8 — because that is about all I can do here at the

Re: [Elecraft] "On second thought, I'll take the stairs."

2020-07-12 Thread Macy monkeys
Great way to start a discussion on an otherwise lackluster Sunday! I'm even more of an reactionary  No personal computers attached to my rigs. And I've given up paddles and keyers for cooties. I'm hopelessly lost in the past!! John K7FD > On Jul 12, 2020, at 8:07 AM, Wayne Burdick wrote: >

Re: [Elecraft] "On second thought, I'll take the stairs."

2020-07-12 Thread Jim Sheldon
Outstanding story Wayne! You're not the only one that has a ham friend like that either. Sometimes I get a bit frustrated when people ask me about the hobby and why I only operate CW and my explanation falls on deaf ears. I think I will have to try your approach to the situation and see if

Re: [Elecraft] "On second thought, I'll take the stairs."

2020-07-12 Thread David Bunte
Wayne - That was one of the most beautiful stories I have heard in years... not just because it was about ham radio, but because it was about so much more... and wonderfully crafted as well. Many thanks for sharing. Dave - K9FN (90 some percent CW with my K-Line) On Sun, Jul 12, 2020 at 11:10

[Elecraft] "On second thought, I'll take the stairs."

2020-07-12 Thread Wayne Burdick
I have a friend about my age who got into amateur radio only a few years ago. Like many of us, he was enthusiastic about the technology. Intrigued with DX. I showed him my station; we talked endlessly about gear. Later, I helped him put up a simple wire antenna. Then, when his license

[Elecraft] Elecraft K1 power realignment

2020-07-12 Thread W4RAM
I want to realign the output of my K1, the radio has an internal antenna tuner. The reason is because I check the radio is not coming out with the proper power (test performed with dummy load and PWR-SWR meter Daiwa). "OUT" is at 2.0W, and I can see, on the power meter, 1W. I proceeded by removing

[Elecraft] K2 Af Gain potmeter

2020-07-12 Thread Jos Weitenberg
I build my K2 in the winter 2018/2019 with serialnumber 7850. The transceiver works very well, but the af gain potmeter sound scratchy now. My question is, is this normal after such a short time of use ? Where can I get a decent potentiometer, because if I replace it with the same one, I think I