In my elementary school and high school (Saginaw, MI) all male teachers had a
paddle of some sort. They never used it but appointed a student to administer
the “whacks” in front of the class. Very effective. I graduated in 1963.
Dave K8WPE since 1960
David J. Wilcox’s iPad
> On Apr 27, 2021, a
Have a slice of a core memory module here. ... somewhere.
Of course took drafting and electronics in high school as well as wood shop.
First computer I used was an IBM 1130. Learned how to build a machine
language initial boot card where the 12 hole positions in a column could
give me 80 short
On 4/27/2021 3:22 PM, n0...@juno.com wrote:
OK, so I gotta chime in and tell this brief story Circa 1958, HS
mechanical drawing class. Some kid was screwing off. Distruptive!
Mr Gersic, went back to the kid, picked him up off his stool by the
seat of his pants/belt with one hand, the other
In those days, there was no such thing as ADHD. You got whacked on the
back of the head until you paid attention.
k4ia, Buck
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On 4/27/2021 6:22 PM, n0...@juno.com wrote:
OK, so I gotta chime in and tell this brief story
Circa 1958, HS mech
OK, so I gotta chime in and tell this brief story
Circa 1958, HS mechanical drawing class. Some kid
was screwing off. Distruptive! Mr Gersic, went back to the kid,
picked him up off his stool by the seat of his pants/belt with one hand,
the other
on his shoulder, and carried him out door. N
Fascinating walk through the past. I took mechanical drawing in my
freshman year. Our high school was 4 years and no junior high.
Mechanical drawing was by far my favorite class. I learned a lot about
dimensions, angles, areas - basic geometry. It made math make sense.
My first novice station
I took 2 years of Drafting in High School (Engineering and Architecture).
At Virginia Tech (VPI at the time), I took all the Engineering Graphics
courses offered even though I was not an engineering student.
I taught high school drafting for the next 31 years and I now teach
AutoCAD, Inventor and
I KNEW that would get a response. :) Mike
> On 04/26/2021 8:37 PM SteveL wrote:
>
>
> Sorry,
> We are wading through and reminiscing about our early engineering training in
> the 1960’s and into the 1970’s…
>
> The CRC? A thick book of tables of computed values. If you wanted to know
> t
Sorry,
We are wading through and reminiscing about our early engineering training in
the 1960’s and into the 1970’s…
The CRC? A thick book of tables of computed values. If you wanted to know the
sine of some value? You could look it up. The same for logarithm, root, other
trig functions, an
On 4/26/2021 11:18 AM, Bill Frantz wrote:
Or PDP-8 on paper tape after toggling in the boot loader through the
front panel switches?
Sorry, mine was a Varian 620/i (8K of 16 bit words) used for nodes in a
circuit switched data network (Tymnet). :-)
Memories of a USAF Message Center (mid-196
l and
monitor the HV transmission system. 69kV - 765kV.
73,
Mark, WB9CIF
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What the heck are all those things you guys are talking about? Mike n6zw
> On 04/26/2021 11:18 AM Bill Frantz wrote:
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>
> OK, I can't resist any longer.
>
> On 4/26/21 at 11:33 AM, lawr...@woh.rr.com (SteveL) wrote:
>
> >Who carried around a CRC book of tables of various calculations in lie
HP-35! Hah. Came out my second year in college. $400. The rich kids got them.
That's over $2k in 2021 dollars. I had to keep stroking my slide rule for
another year until the Ti SR50 came out. I waited in line with a bunch of
other nerds at the doors of Macy's (!) when they had a sale on them
My slide rule at the time was a Sterling pocket model I got at the
drugstore for $2. I carried it in my bag or a jacket pocket.
Now I have over 100 of the things, including the venerable K&R 20" log-log
duplex decitrig mentioned in Heinlein's "Have Spacesuit Will Travel".
Another Heinlein book th
I remember those classes, though I never took one. I wish I had, now.
I understand completely about the changes in our world. In the early 80's,
my college got an IBM PC through an educational program, and I was tapped
to set it up and use it in the library office. While learning what this box
cou
I have greatly enjoyed the memory fest here. Wasn't going to join in, but,
Steve, your email really hit close to home. I replied to Steve, intended for
whole group.
Took 'Mechanical Drawing' in Jr. high, loved it. Also had drawing classes
(course also included slide rule) first semester of
My cursive died when I got to engineering school, and now even my printing
is not improving, to some extent to writing mostly with keyboard.
No drafting in High School, but my first Freshman course in the EE program
was pretty awesome. Professor Kliphardt taught us mechanical drawing, where
we lea
From what I've seen, I guess I'm the baby of the drafting class guys.
HI HI I took drafting in HS in 1988. Luckily, had a great teacher that
was really good at teaching drafting, even in that "late" time. Still
have all my drawings from that class rolled up somewhere around here.
Made the draft
Well, I too could not resist this thread. I took drafting in my senior year
(1967) as did all those who identified as wanting to be an engineer. I did
OK. Even got hired by the city engineer and helped to redraw all of the
city standards for sidewalks, driveway approaches, etc. However, I did g
OK, I can't resist any longer.
On 4/26/21 at 11:33 AM, lawr...@woh.rr.com (SteveL) wrote:
Who carried around a CRC book of tables of various calculations in lieu of an
unaffordable scientific calculator?
Yup.
Or programming FORTRAN on punch cards?
Yup. At first on a IBM 650 with a 4 pass co
On 4/24/2021 6:11 AM, Barry wrote:
High school in 1975? You're just a kid in ham circles, Wayne:-)
Barry W2UP (HS class of '74)
Mere infants. HS '53 didn't have drafting but that fall in first year
EE we had a whole year of it. The instructor was a graduate of the US
Merchant Marine Acad
I envied a friend in a EE program and the University of Cincinnati. He had the
first HP-35 I’d ever seen the year it was introduced (1972), but it was way out
of my budget as a new freshman studying Engineering.
A couple of months after my friend acquired the HP-35, to my fascination he
receiv
gards
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To: Barry ; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
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Golly, Jim hit it ion the head.
Golly, Jim hit it ion the head. Same with me, script has gone south, but
printing is still pretty good. We had to print all our reports way back when I
was working. Now all the guys use computers in the car. Guess that's progress.
Mike n6zw
> On 04/26/2021 4:54 AM Barry wrote:
>
>
> Jim Bro
Jim Brown-10 wrote
> But writing legibly is, and that was a VERY important contribution of my
> technical drawing classes. My script has become pretty flaky with age,
> but my printing is still pretty legible.
>
> 73, Jim K9YC
My handwriting was always poor. Guess that's why they made me go in
Ted,
Does that mean that you were allowed to "color outside the lines"?
As an engineer, I always had to "stay between the lines" (my creativity
had to be placed in other directions, not exceeding specs) but that is
good advice for drivers too - as well as clean side up and dirty side down.
73
We called it Mechanical Drawing.
I am not in engineering field, but it is handy sometimes.
On Sun, Apr 25, 2021 at 16:21 MIKE ZANE wrote:
> You bet there is! from retired LE, Mike
> > On 04/25/2021 8:13 AM Hank via Elecraft
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > There’s a joke there somewhere!!
> >
> > Hank
> >
You bet there is! from retired LE, Mike
> On 04/25/2021 8:13 AM Hank via Elecraft wrote:
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>
> There’s a joke there somewhere!!
>
> Hank
> K4HYJ
>
> > On Apr 25, 2021, at 9:28 AM, eda...@aya.yale.edu wrote:
> >
> > I never took a drafting class nor anything like it in high school, yet its
This turned out to be a popular subject line. Here goes...
I was too busy with AP classes to take drafting in high school. But I had to
take it when I went off to the College of Engineering to be an Electrical
Engineer. And I am glad I did take it. Of course, now it is all CAD systems…
Regards
On 4/25/2021 6:27 AM, eda...@aya.yale.edu wrote:
I never took a drafting class nor anything like it in high school, yet its
absence never hurt me professionally. Making a straight line is not a skill
required of a lawyer.
But writing legibly is, and that was a VERY important contribution of my
>
> Wayne Burdick n6kr at elecraft.com
>
> wrote:"Here's to those moments, and to that timeless pursuit: turning
> abstractions into reality."
Indeed. There is nothing so sublime as the moment of clarity when the last
pieces of a jigsaw puzzle align, and the vision in your mind's eye
crystalize
I guess I missed out. Never had a formal course. No drafting in high school,
and no drafting during undergraduate and graduate EE at Rice in the 60s. A
straight edge and logic element templates in various sizes, were all the
drafting skills needed. Board layout and a few other things were picked
Maybe had you known drafting, you wouldn't have had to resort to becoming a
lawyer. HI HI
Lou W7HV
On Sunday, April 25, 2021, 7:28:59 AM MDT, eda...@aya.yale.edu
wrote:
I never took a drafting class nor anything like it in high school, yet its
absence never hurt me professionally.
There’s a joke there somewhere!!
Hank
K4HYJ
> On Apr 25, 2021, at 9:28 AM, eda...@aya.yale.edu wrote:
>
> I never took a drafting class nor anything like it in high school, yet its
> absence never hurt me professionally. Making a straight line is not a skill
> required of a lawyer.
>
> Ted, K
I never took a drafting class nor anything like it in high school, yet its
absence never hurt me professionally. Making a straight line is not a skill
required of a lawyer.
Ted, KN1CBR
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>> Subject: [Elecraft] OT: High school drafting class, ~1975
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>> OK
lecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Wayne Burdick
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>> Subject: [Elecraft] OT: High school drafting class, ~1975
>>
>> OK, I've really dated myself now.
>>
>> Anyone rememb
When I started Tech in 1979, those drafting courses were no longer required.
And, indeed, they retired the card punches for the FORTRAN courses in 1981-2. I
was part of the User Assistance team in the computer center that helped all
those EE 1010 students navigate their way to using the interact
“Drafting?”
No, we didn’t call it that. It was “Industrial Arts”. I remember taking in 7th
grade. And a few of us took the second semester Industrial Arts rather than
shop due to scheduling issues.
That was back in 1973-4. It was one of my favorite classes as well.
I still draw up schematics o
I did take a Mechanical Drawing class in High School. It was of some
use in my EE classes in college, but mostly drawing lines for schematics
at that time (1960 era) - a straightedge and a compass or plastic
template for making circles (remember tubes) was all that was needed at
that time. We
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Subject: [Elecraft] OT: High school drafting class, ~1975
OK, I've really dated myself now.
Anyone remember "drafting"? A favorite class in high school: blueprints,
mechanical drawings, schematics, straight edges, hand lettering, projections
and elevations
Oh, my, Wayne. We must be of the same age--er vintage? I still have my
K&E drafting tools set and my K&E Log Log Duplex Decitrig slide rule
(mahogany don't you know).
Memories of eraser dust; velum; t-square; PC layout by hand; plastic symbol
templates. I think it was then that I changed from c
Yep, did the mechanical dwgs by hand and taped the artwork for the PCBs for
the first few products I designed at a startup. When I built my K2 in 00/01, I
used a drafting table that had a drafting machine as a work bench and my first
operating desk. I had gotten it from work when they were di
> On Apr 23, 2021, at 22:08, Wayne Burdick wrote:
>
> Anyone remember "drafting"? A favorite class in high school: blueprints,
> mechanical drawings, schematics, straight edges, hand lettering, projections
> and elevations. We invented things to draw that weren't real, but looked like
> they s
In 1967 I started work as a Draftsman Trainee in the Engineering Division
of P&G. My group leader told me "There is a timesharing computer terminal
(Teletype 33) down the hall that we are not using. Find out if we can do
anything with it." That started my progression to programming and
eventuall
On 4/24/2021 1:00 AM, Joe K2UF wrote:
In 1955 we were the cool guys with a slide rule in a leather case hanging
from your belt and india ink stains on your hands.
I don't remember Drafting in high school, but I do remember it, along
with courses in Nomography graphical methods to compute equat
Thanks for the memories Wayne! My High School drafting class was just a
couple of years after yours, and I remember it fondly. Everything from
drafting pencils (with lead of various sizes/hardness) to technical ink
pens on vellum. I enjoyed it so much that I persuaded the instructor to
let me chec
Way back then in 1955, we only had Mechanical Drawing, no drafting. Mike
> On 04/24/2021 6:11 AM Barry wrote:
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>
> High school in 1975? You're just a kid in ham circles, Wayne :-)
>
> Barry W2UP (HS class of '74)
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I didn't get to do a drafting course until college. It was taught by the
dean (guess any prof who had to get us to understand solid state
physics was "too good" to teach drafting).. I still fondly remember
doing some sheet metal layout and having such an oddly shaped piece in
the flat mapping
Not offered in my HS as I recall in 1976 but in college one quarter of it
was required. I enjoyed it so much I took the second quarter.
My son who almost has his degree also recently took "drafting" courses, in
which they did an entire internal combustion engine including animating it
when it was
Wayne,
Thanks for sharing the memories.
I had been drawing things since a child, won a contest with a local
radio show for my crayon drawings at age five. By the time I was in
college I was already good at that. I got 1/2 point off one of my
drawings in drafting class, otherwise got 100% (f
Drafting, 1956-57. For the first four weeks of class, Sr. Mary Joseph would
not let us touch any drafting instruments until we each made, sanded,
shellac’ed, to her satisfaction, our own drafting boards. Her rationale was
that if we crafted our own boards, we would take better care of them. Sh
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OK, I&
I recently broke out my Dietzgen Stellar drafting set. Using it to layout
features for my steam engine project.
On Sat, Apr 24, 2021 at 00:11 Wayne Burdick wrote:
> OK, I've really dated myself now.
>
> Anyone remember "drafting"? A favorite class in high school: blueprints,
> mechanical drawing
High school in 1975? You're just a kid in ham circles, Wayne :-)
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>> Anyone remember "drafting"? A favorite class in high school: blueprints,
>> mechanical drawings, sc
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> 73 Joe K2UF
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[Elecraft] OT: High school drafting class, ~1975 I took the classes but was
never considered “COOL”... mostly a “NERD”. Print shop too, but I knew I
was going to college so they didn’t send me to the manual arts school down by
the river
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24, 2021 1:09 AM
To: Elecraft Reflector
Subject: [Elecraft] OT: High school drafting class, ~1975
OK, I've really dated myself now.
Anyone remember "drafting"? A favorite class in high school: blueprints,
mechanical drawings, schematics, straight edges, hand lettering, projections
I learned draftmanship in high school indusrial arts beginning in 1966. I was
good enough ar it that I was asked in my senior year to do detailed
construction drawings for the annual project of the machine shop, even though I
had transferred to a so-called college preparatory curriculum a coupl
OK, I've really dated myself now.
Anyone remember "drafting"? A favorite class in high school: blueprints,
mechanical drawings, schematics, straight edges, hand lettering, projections
and elevations. We invented things to draw that weren't real, but looked like
they should be. Did all the math
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