Re: [Elecraft] OT - WSJT-X & K3s

2017-09-05 Thread Nr4c
And your point? Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill > On Sep 5, 2017, at 5:53 PM, Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT > wrote: > > It's unfortunate that Universal Serial Bus and Upper Sideband share the same > three letter acronym. > >> On 9/5/2017 2:45 PM, Nr4c wrote: >> If

Re: [Elecraft] OT - WSJT-X & K3s

2017-09-05 Thread Neil Zampella
Easy fix .. but you should hear some of the audio being Tx along with FT8  :( Neil, KN3ILZ On 9/5/2017 5:29 PM, Nr4c wrote: Go to the Mixer in Windows and MUTE Windows System sounds. Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill On Sep 5, 2017, at 12:32 PM, Neil Zampella wrote: If

Re: [Elecraft] OT - WSJT-X & K3s

2017-09-05 Thread Jim Brown
On 9/5/2017 1:21 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: You will find almost without fail, the common emitter transistor preamp with unbypassed emitter bias resistor is, in fact, clipping well below 1V. Gee, I said 100 mV, which is 20 dB below 1 V. Remember, we're talking about *AMATEUR* equipment -

Re: [Elecraft] OT - WSJT-X & K3s

2017-09-05 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
Folks - Let's close the WSJT-X thread(s), which are well over the single topic posting limit.  WAY over..  :-) 73, Eric Moderator (propagation must be bad today..) /elecraft.com/ __ Elecraft mailing list Home:

Re: [Elecraft] OT - WSJT-X & K3s

2017-09-05 Thread Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT
It's unfortunate that Universal Serial Bus and Upper Sideband share the same three letter acronym. On 9/5/2017 2:45 PM, Nr4c wrote: If you have a K3S and are using the USB cable plugged in you must use RS-232 - USB instead of a baud rate.

Re: [Elecraft] OT - WSJT-X & K3s

2017-09-05 Thread Don Wilhelm
Gary, With any soundcard data mode, you should be in DATA A with MIC SEL set to LINE IN. That includes WSJT. When using the internal soundcard, make certain there is nothing connected to the LINE IN jack - it takes precedence over the output of the internal soundcard. As always, set the

Re: [Elecraft] OT - WSJT-X & K3s

2017-09-05 Thread Nr4c
If you have a K3S and are using the USB cable plugged in you must use RS-232 - USB instead of a baud rate. Mode doesn't matter! Same is true for a K3 with the new KIO3 USB board . And if you plug audio cables in the Lin In/Out jacks it disconnects the audio on the USB cable. Sent from my

Re: [Elecraft] OT - WSJT-X & K3s

2017-09-05 Thread Nr4c
Go to the Mixer in Windows and MUTE Windows System sounds. Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill > On Sep 5, 2017, at 12:32 PM, Neil Zampella wrote: > > If you're using your USB interface cable, such as the KXUSB for the KX3, > there's no need to have VOX to trigger anything.

Re: [Elecraft] OT - WSJT-X & K3s

2017-09-05 Thread Gary Smith
The topic has recently drifted a bit from my original question but the information given has been interesting. As I'm using a K3s and its internal sound card, I put away my Creative USB 0404 card, though it was a fine card to use with the K3. I have gotten WSJT running though I haven't yet

Re: [Elecraft] OT - WSJT-X & K3s

2017-09-05 Thread Walter Underwood
The audio ADC used in the KX3 has a recommended "Analog full-scale 0-dB input voltage” of 0.63 VRMS. I’ll let someone else go through the K3/K3S schematics. wunder K6WRU Walter Underwood CM87wj http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog) > On Sep 5, 2017, at 1:21 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV

Re: [Elecraft] OT - WSJT-X & K3s

2017-09-05 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
Jim, Get some real world experience with typical amateur transceivers. Dig out the service manuals and run their mic circuits through SPICE or one of the other software programs that will show you where they clip. You will find almost without fail, the common emitter transistor preamp with

Re: [Elecraft] OT - WSJT-X & K3s

2017-09-05 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
> This can easily be turned off from Windoze Control Panel. Not entirely. Windows will still generate error sounds under some circumstances. In addition, other software can generate unexpected "noises". 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 9/5/2017 1:19 PM, Jim Brown wrote: On 9/5/2017 9:32 AM, Neil

Re: [Elecraft] OT - WSJT-X & K3s

2017-09-05 Thread Jim Brown
On 9/5/2017 9:32 AM, Neil Zampella wrote: The only problem with VOX and the soundcard is if you have only one soundcard, and you also have Windows sounds going to it. This can easily be turned off from Windoze Control Panel. 73, Jim K9YC

Re: [Elecraft] OT - WSJT-X & K3s

2017-09-05 Thread Jim Brown
On 9/5/2017 6:24 AM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: A transceiver designed for use with a dynamic mic (Kenwood, TenTec, Kenwood, etc.) typically expects 5 mV (or less) on the mic input. The attenuation needed to reduce 1 V to 50 mV is 46 dB (20log(.005/1)). Joe, While I greatly respect your

Re: [Elecraft] OT - WSJT-X & K3s

2017-09-05 Thread Neil Zampella
If you're using your USB interface cable, such as the KXUSB for the KX3, there's no need to have VOX to trigger anything. The only problem with VOX and the soundcard is if you have only one soundcard, and you also have Windows sounds going to it. Neil, KN3ILZ On 9/5/2017 8:39 AM, Wes Stewart

Re: [Elecraft] OT - WSJT-X & K3s

2017-09-05 Thread rich hurd WC3T
gt; > > To: "Barry" <k3...@comcast.net>; "Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT" < > kx...@coldrockshotbrooms.com>; elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > Sent: 9/4/2017 7:55:55 PM > > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT - WSJT-X & K3s > > > >> Barry, > >>

Re: [Elecraft] OT - WSJT-X & K3s

2017-09-05 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
On 9/4/2017 11:12 PM, Jim Brown wrote: > http://k9yc.com/USB_Interfaces.pdf Since you specifically cite me: the output of a sound card is typically 1 Volt RMS or more. A transceiver designed for use with a dynamic mic (Kenwood, TenTec, Kenwood, etc.) typically expects 5 mV (or less) on the

Re: [Elecraft] OT - WSJT-X & K3s

2017-09-05 Thread Wes Stewart
As would VOX gain per mode. On 9/4/2017 8:15 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote: With digital modes, there is no problem of room noise activating the VOX.  All the audio is coming from the soundcard. Yes, VOX per mode would be a great addition to the KX3/K3/K3S firmware.

Re: [Elecraft] OT - WSJT-X & K3s

2017-09-04 Thread Don Wilhelm
With digital modes, there is no problem of room noise activating the VOX. All the audio is coming from the soundcard. Yes, VOX per mode would be a great addition to the KX3/K3/K3S firmware. 73, Don W3FPR On 9/4/2017 10:44 PM, Bill Frantz wrote: Don is absolutely right about the usability of

Re: [Elecraft] OT - WSJT-X & K3s

2017-09-04 Thread Barry
a functionality; it must be my engineering background. :-) 73, Barry K3NDM -- Original Message -- From: "Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT" <kx...@coldrockshotbrooms.com> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: 9/4/2017 8:55:02 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT - WSJT-X & K3s Barry,

Re: [Elecraft] OT - WSJT-X & K3s

2017-09-04 Thread Don Wilhelm
All good information, although you may want to check which is your Default soundcard. Make certain that it is the internal soundcard. Windows has a nasty habit of making the most recently installed soundcard the default. 73, Don W3FPR On 9/4/2017 10:31 PM, Neil Zampella wrote: On the AUDIO

Re: [Elecraft] OT - WSJT-X & K3s

2017-09-04 Thread Jim Brown
On 9/4/2017 5:05 PM, Barry wrote: with digital modes for 2 reasons, they are inexpensive and they can key your transmitter directly. The only good reason I can think of for using the SignaLink is if that's all you have and you can't afford to replace it. It is NOT a good audio interface.

Re: [Elecraft] OT - WSJT-X & K3s

2017-09-04 Thread Bill Frantz
Don is absolutely right about the usability of the VOX built into the Elecraft rigs. That's what I use now since, since I upgraded my K3 to have the internal sound card. When I was using a SignaLink, i actually built a cable for the PTT. The reason is that the K3 does not save VOX by mode and

Re: [Elecraft] OT - WSJT-X & K3s

2017-09-04 Thread Neil Zampella
t>; "Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT" <kx...@coldrockshotbrooms.com>; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: 9/4/2017 7:55:55 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT - WSJT-X & K3s Barry, I would disagree with you on your SignaLink recommendation. The SignaLink is a single channel soundcard, and

Re: [Elecraft] OT - WSJT-X & K3s

2017-09-04 Thread Walter Underwood
pectrum and CW Skimmer. > > 73, > Barry > K3NDM > > -- Original Message -- > From: "Don Wilhelm" <donw...@embarqmail.com> > To: "Barry" <k3...@comcast.net>; "Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT" > <kx...@coldrockshotbrooms.com>; e

Re: [Elecraft] OT - WSJT-X & K3s

2017-09-04 Thread Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT
"Helpful" and quite possibly essential after the first few contacts. ... again, people are trying to go from zero to everything in one step, and speaking as someone with a strong computer background, it's easier to troubleshoot if you take your time, and do things in small steps. Start

Re: [Elecraft] OT - WSJT-X & K3s

2017-09-04 Thread Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT
aylor, WB6UUT" <kx...@coldrockshotbrooms.com> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: 9/4/2017 4:33:00 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT - WSJT-X & K3s The reason I asked is that it seems that there is a bunch of wonderful software out there, that it's all pretty awesome. Brand new use

Re: [Elecraft] OT - WSJT-X & K3s

2017-09-04 Thread Barry
oms.com>; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: 9/4/2017 7:55:55 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT - WSJT-X & K3s Barry, I would disagree with you on your SignaLink recommendation. The SignaLink is a single channel soundcard, and its sound quality is "just OK" for digital modes. Yes, there

Re: [Elecraft] OT - WSJT-X & K3s

2017-09-04 Thread Don Wilhelm
Barry, I would disagree with you on your SignaLink recommendation. The SignaLink is a single channel soundcard, and its sound quality is "just OK" for digital modes. Yes, there are connecting cables for several transceivers available from SignaLink that make connection to the transceiver

Re: [Elecraft] OT - WSJT-X & K3s

2017-09-04 Thread Barry
;Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT" <kx...@coldrockshotbrooms.com> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: 9/4/2017 4:33:00 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT - WSJT-X & K3s The reason I asked is that it seems that there is a bunch of wonderful software out there, that it's all pretty awesome. Bran

Re: [Elecraft] OT - WSJT-X & K3s

2017-09-04 Thread tomb18
monitor you received audio. Levels are set on the Signalink's front panel. 73, Barry K3NDM -- Original Message -- From: "Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT" <kx...@coldrockshotbrooms.com> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: 9/4/2017 3:32:04 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT - WSJT-X &a

Re: [Elecraft] OT - WSJT-X & K3s

2017-09-04 Thread Barry
are set on the Signalink's front panel. 73, Barry K3NDM -- Original Message -- From: "Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT" <kx...@coldrockshotbrooms.com> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: 9/4/2017 3:32:04 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT - WSJT-X & K3s If I was on the WSJT devel

Re: [Elecraft] OT - WSJT-X & K3s

2017-09-04 Thread Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT
The reason I asked is that it seems that there is a bunch of wonderful software out there, that it's all pretty awesome. Brand new users struggle mightily with things like serial ports when they aren't strictly needed. So, start with just the sound card (and VOX). Then add the serial port.

Re: [Elecraft] OT - WSJT-X & K3s

2017-09-04 Thread Tom
will go in split before it changes band. The consequence is you have to do it twice at times. Hope this helps. 73 Tom va2fsq.com -Original Message- From: Wes Stewart Sent: Monday, September 4, 2017 2:36 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT - WSJT-X & K3s

Re: [Elecraft] OT - WSJT-X & K3s

2017-09-04 Thread Jim Brown
On 9/4/2017 12:32 PM, Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT wrote: Won't WSJT work in VOX mode with no serial connection at all? Yep! The serial connection is needed only for frequency control, and WSJT-X works just fine without it. I don't do any port sharing, giving WSJT-X the port by itself, and log

Re: [Elecraft] OT - WSJT-X & K3s

2017-09-04 Thread Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT
If I was on the WSJT development team, I'd say exactly what the developer said: they haven't tested everything, can't keep up with updates, don't recommend using port-sharing software. LP-Pan sounds kinda awesome, but the first thing I would do (as someone who has been coding for a few

Re: [Elecraft] OT - WSJT-X & K3s

2017-09-04 Thread Larry Gauthier (K8UT)
multiple individual devices. -larry (K8UT) -Original Message- From: Wes Stewart Sent: Monday, September 04, 2017 2:36 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT - WSJT-X & K3s I asked about this on the Yahoo WSJT-X group: From one of the developers, "Hi Wes, we do

Re: [Elecraft] OT - WSJT-X & K3s

2017-09-04 Thread Barry
6 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT - WSJT-X & K3s Wes, Bill, et al: I think the first suggestion I made was to connect the radio direct to the computer USB port. Hu, wonder why I said that??? More gadgets and helicopters are much alike..too dang many parts to be reliable. 73 Bob, K

Re: [Elecraft] OT - WSJT-X & K3s

2017-09-04 Thread Bob McGraw K4TAX
Wes, Bill,  et al: I think the first suggestion I made was to connect the radio direct to the computer USB port.   Hu, wonder why I said that??? More gadgets and helicopters are much alike..too dang many parts to be reliable. 73 Bob, K4TAX On 9/4/2017 1:36 PM, Wes Stewart

Re: [Elecraft] OT - WSJT-X & K3s

2017-09-04 Thread Wes Stewart
I asked about this on the Yahoo WSJT-X group: From one of the developers, "Hi Wes, we do not support serial port splitting products with WSJT-X, they are unreliable as there is no acceptable way to divide control of a single device without arbitration. If you get it working then that's fine

Re: [Elecraft] OT - WSJT-X & K3s

2017-09-03 Thread Don Wilhelm
Gary, I cannot speak to your problems about the communications between WSJT-X and the K3S. But once you have solved that remember that the instructions in the WSJT-X help file are not correct for the K3S (or other Elecraft radios). You must drive the audio to 4 bars on the ALC meter with

Re: [Elecraft] OT - WSJT-X & K3s

2017-09-03 Thread donovanf
et Sent: Monday, September 4, 2017 1:19:25 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT - WSJT-X & K3s I am likely missing something. I can not seemingly get any communication between the software and the radio. Here is a screenshot of my latest attempt and the error message. http://doctorgary.net/WSJT-1.

Re: [Elecraft] OT - WSJT-X & K3s

2017-09-03 Thread Geoff Allsup
I'd also set SPLIT to NONE and then restart everything. And be sure the radio is turned on before starting WSJT Sent from my iPhone Geoff Allsup, W1OH gall...@whoi.edu or w...@whoi.edu Senior Engineer Upper Ocean Processes Group Woods Hole Oceanographic

Re: [Elecraft] OT - WSJT-X & K3s

2017-09-03 Thread Randy Farmer
Try turning off Hardware Handshake. 73... Randy, W8FN On 9/3/2017 8:19 PM, Gary Smith wrote: I am likely missing something. I can not seemingly get any communication between the software and the radio. Here is a screenshot of my latest attempt and the error message.

Re: [Elecraft] OT - WSJT-X & K3s

2017-09-03 Thread Gary Smith
Bob, Because of logistics, I can't connect the K3s to the computer directly, I am using a powered USB hub. That shouldn't be an issue, if I halt LP-Bridge (which stops control of my logging software), I can use the K3 & P3 utilities. I did try closing LP-Bridge and running WSJT alone

Re: [Elecraft] OT - WSJT-X & K3s

2017-09-03 Thread Gary Smith
I am likely missing something. I can not seemingly get any communication between the software and the radio. Here is a screenshot of my latest attempt and the error message. http://doctorgary.net/WSJT-1.8-radio.jpg I have tried (I think) all the permutations in this screen and CAT is a

Re: [Elecraft] OT - WSJT-X & K3s

2017-09-03 Thread Bob McGraw K4TAX
Connect the K3S direct to a USB port on the computer.   Most likely LP Bridge is causing the issues.    Also If you experience issues with WSJT-X  V1.8 I have found it must be installed in its own directory under C:// and not into a program directory.    It will make its own directory by

[Elecraft] OT - WSJT-X & K3s

2017-09-03 Thread Luther Phillips
My software setup with a K3S, LP-Pan, and Asus U5 is as follows: LP-Bridge creating virtual ports for: NaP3 CW Skimmer Ham Radio Deluxe (last free version, 5.0 Build 2893, using the Logbook as my main log) N1MM or WriteLog for contests Note that HRD versions newer than about 6.2 will not

Re: [Elecraft] OT - WSJT-X & K3s

2017-09-03 Thread Ted Edwards W3TB
I will be very interested to see what develops in this thread. Thanks to all of you! On Sun, Sep 3, 2017 at 5:58 PM, Wes Stewart wrote: > Unfortunately, WSJT-X demands full control of the CAT port. Been there, > done that. > > Wes N7WS > > > On 9/3/2017 2:47 PM, Gary

Re: [Elecraft] OT - WSJT-X & K3s

2017-09-03 Thread Wes Stewart
Unfortunately, WSJT-X demands full control of the CAT port.  Been there, done that. Wes  N7WS On 9/3/2017 2:47 PM, Gary Smith wrote: I'm sure this has been asked before but I am not finding the solution, the story of my life... I just loaded WSJT-X into the Windows 10 computer & I have a

[Elecraft] OT - WSJT-X & K3s

2017-09-03 Thread Gary Smith
I'm sure this has been asked before but I am not finding the solution, the story of my life... I just loaded WSJT-X into the Windows 10 computer & I have a K3s. I have been following the user's guide found here: https://www.physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/K 1JT/wsjtx-doc/wsjtx-main-1.7.0.html