Re: [Elecraft] solder iron correct temp in C for K3

2012-04-27 Thread David Ferrington, M0XDF
Or of course, use a converter program on your smart phone!!! ;-) 73 de David, M0XDF On 27 Apr 2012, at 04:59, Don Wilhelm wrote: Actually, the conversion is easier to remember than those two formulas. The two scales coincide at -40 degrees. So for the conversion (either way) first add 40.

Re: [Elecraft] solder iron correct temp in C for K3

2012-04-27 Thread KU7Y
I just push the switch on my Weller and watch it change from F to C. I love simple. Hehehehehe OK, back in my hole, Ron, KU7Y SOWP 5545M Arizona Outlaws Contest Club Brenda, AZ (Winter) Caldwell, ID (Summer) k...@qsl.net http://www.hatpinsandmore.com KX3 #0062

Re: [Elecraft] solder iron correct temp in C for K3

2012-04-27 Thread Monty Shultes
Another trick, you can do C-F in your head: Double the centigrade temperature, subtract 10% from the product, and add 32 to get Fahrenheit. 10 degrees C = (2*10-2) + 32 = 50 degrees F F-C is not so slick, but works: Subtract 32 from the Fahrenheit temperature, add 11% of the result to

Re: [Elecraft] solder iron correct temp in C for K3

2012-04-27 Thread hawley, charles j jr
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] on behalf of Matt Zilmer [mzil...@verizon.net] Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 11:49 PM To: d...@w3fpr.com Cc: Elecraft Reflector Subject: Re: [Elecraft] solder iron correct temp in C for K3 Nice memory aid! matt

Re: [Elecraft] solder iron correct temp in C for K3

2012-04-27 Thread David O'Leary
On 4/27/2012 6:55 AM, elecraft-requ...@mailman.qth.net wrote: Re: [Elecraft] solder iron correct temp in C for K3 I try to minimize the number of formulas I need to remember. This one has served me well 1.8C=F-32 Replace the known value, and solve for the unknown. Or if you only need

Re: [Elecraft] solder iron correct temp in C for K3

2012-04-27 Thread N5GE
aka Jack, BMW Motorcycles From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] on behalf of Matt Zilmer [mzil...@verizon.net] Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 11:49 PM To: d...@w3fpr.com Cc: Elecraft Reflector Subject: Re: [Elecraft

Re: [Elecraft] solder iron correct temp in C for K3

2012-04-27 Thread Terry Schieler
Pretty cool trick, Monty. But I'll stick with just touching the tip of the iron to my tongue. Much less painful than doin' the math! ;o) Terry, W0FM -Original Message- From: Monty Shultes [mailto:mon...@mindspring.com] Sent: Friday, April 27, 2012 5:55 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft

Re: [Elecraft] solder iron correct temp in C for K3

2012-04-27 Thread Bill K9YEQ
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] solder iron correct temp in C for K3 Actually, the conversion is easier to remember than those two formulas. The two scales coincide at -40 degrees. So for the conversion (either way) first add 40. Then if the conversion is from Centigrade to Fahrenheit multiply by 9/5 (you

Re: [Elecraft] solder iron correct temp in C for K3

2012-04-27 Thread Bill K9YEQ
:-) Funny! 73, Bill K9YEQ -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Terry Schieler Sent: Friday, April 27, 2012 11:45 AM To: 'Monty Shultes' Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] solder iron correct

Re: [Elecraft] solder iron correct temp in C for K3

2012-04-27 Thread Randy Farmer
It won't work for SMD stuff, but over the years I've had great success using a classic Ungar 27W cartridge (which I seem to remember was around 850°F) with a screw-ON 1/8 screwdriver tip for just about everything but the heaviest jobs. This includes lots of building stuff with standard

Re: [Elecraft] solder iron correct temp in C for K3

2012-04-27 Thread KQ8M
3605, V4 Passive 3606 -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Randy Farmer Sent: Friday, April 27, 2012 2:15 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] solder iron correct temp in C for K3 It won't work

Re: [Elecraft] solder iron correct temp in C for K3

2012-04-27 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
I cheat. My Hakko soldering station is calibrated in both C and F Ron AC7AC -Original Message- Another trick, you can do C-F in your head: Double the centigrade temperature, subtract 10% from the product, and add 32 to get Fahrenheit. 10 degrees C = (2*10-2) + 32 = 50 degrees F

[Elecraft] solder iron correct temp in C for K3

2012-04-26 Thread W9HAK
I have a new solder iron that is temperature controlled in degrees C. What temp should I set the iron for work on the K3? I am using 60/40 rosin core, small diameter solder. While using solder wick to clean out the holes from the 12 dc mod kit I used 300c and dipped the wick in solder flux. I

Re: [Elecraft] solder iron correct temp in C for K3

2012-04-26 Thread Don Wilhelm
Smith, I suggest you increase the iron temperature to 400 degC (750 degF). The other suggestion I can offer is to use 63/37 allow solder (eutectic) with a mildly reactive flux (such as Kester 287). Save the large diameter Kester 44 (highly reactive flux) for antenna work and other jobs where

Re: [Elecraft] solder iron correct temp in C for K3

2012-04-26 Thread david Moes
I usually go between 370C and 400C or about (700F-750F) for most jobs. Setting your iron to low will mean that it will take longer for the solder to melt and giving more time for the heat to travel into the component and possible damage.when working on boat-anchors with point to point

Re: [Elecraft] solder iron correct temp in C for K3

2012-04-26 Thread Fred Jensen
On 4/26/2012 4:26 PM, W9HAK wrote: I have a new solder iron that is temperature controlled in degrees C. What temp should I set the iron for work on the K3? I am using 60/40 rosin core, small diameter solder. While using solder wick to clean out the holes from the 12 dc mod kit I used 300c

Re: [Elecraft] solder iron correct temp in C for K3

2012-04-26 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of W9HAK Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 4:26 PM To: Elecraft listserve Subject: [Elecraft] solder iron correct temp in C for K3 I have a new solder iron that is temperature controlled in degrees C. What temp

Re: [Elecraft] solder iron correct temp in C for K3

2012-04-26 Thread Don Wilhelm
Actually, the conversion is easier to remember than those two formulas. The two scales coincide at -40 degrees. So for the conversion (either way) first add 40. Then if the conversion is from Centigrade to Fahrenheit multiply by 9/5 (you will be going to a greater number), but if the conversion

Re: [Elecraft] solder iron correct temp in C for K3

2012-04-26 Thread ve8rt
__ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list:

Re: [Elecraft] solder iron correct temp in C for K3

2012-04-26 Thread Gary K9GS
Or, in google just type something like: 750F to C Works for all kinds of different units of measure. On 4/26/2012 10:59 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote: Actually, the conversion is easier to remember than those two formulas. The two scales coincide at -40 degrees. So for the conversion (either way)

Re: [Elecraft] solder iron correct temp in C for K3

2012-04-26 Thread Matt Zilmer
Nice memory aid! matt On Thu, 26 Apr 2012 23:59:05 -0400, you wrote: Actually, the conversion is easier to remember than those two formulas. The two scales coincide at -40 degrees. So for the conversion (either way) first add 40. Then if the conversion is from Centigrade to Fahrenheit multiply

Re: [Elecraft] solder iron correct temp in C for K3

2012-04-26 Thread Bob
I'm not fluent in metric and use this link all the time: http://www.worldwidemetric.com/Measurements.html 73, Bob K2TK ex KN2TKR (1956) K2TKR On 4/27/2012 12:32 AM, Gary K9GS wrote: Or, in google just type something like: 750F to C Works for all kinds of different units of measure. On

Re: [Elecraft] solder / lamp

2011-12-09 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
I've got #4 lenses in my OptiVisor. Since it is designed to wear it over my normal reading glasses I can change the magnification by taking my reading glasses off, but seldom do. In addition to Hamfests, you can find Optivisors at most hobby and crafts stores. Ron AC7AC -Original

Re: [Elecraft] solder / lamp

2011-12-09 Thread Rick Dettinger
OptiVisors also restrict peripheral vision. Keep that in mine while reaching for the hot soldering iron. I had to interrupt work on a kit for a trip to the emergency room! I thought that I knew just where to reach. I was a little off. 73, Rick K7MW On Dec 9, 2011, at 10:07 AM, Ron

Re: [Elecraft] solder / lamp

2011-12-09 Thread Jim Wiley
Check Magnifier.com for their HVM-5L lighted magnifier. It comes with a set of 4 interchangeable lenses giving 1.2X, 1.8X, 2.5X and 3.5X magnifications. The lenses clip into the headband. No peripheral vision restrictions. Does not have a knob-adjustable headband, but the slide-clamp

Re: [Elecraft] solder / lamp

2011-12-09 Thread Fred Jensen
FWIW: I built my K2 and KX1 using a 1 lb roll of 63/37 0.015 solder I've had for a hundred years. I never had feed-rate problems, and was able to very finely control how much solder went into the holes. There's still about 1/3 lb of solder on the roll. My wife bought me a magnifying lamp

[Elecraft] solder / lamp

2011-12-08 Thread Don Baucom
I ordered a K2 today. Can someone tell me a specific vendor and solder that would be good to use. I was also wondering if anyone has a good idea for a cheap magnifying lamp. I have the static mat and strap from my K1 build. Anything else I might need? 73 Don K4YND -- View this message in

Re: [Elecraft] solder / lamp

2011-12-08 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Solder: any electronic solder (rosin core) is good. Kester is considered one of the top o' the line. Another I have is Tech Spray. I'd avoid lead-free solder - it requires more heat to make a good joint. I still use good old 60/40. Probably a bigger issue is to avoid really large diameter solder

Re: [Elecraft] solder / lamp

2011-12-08 Thread Don Wilhelm
Don, I suggest you invest in a spool of good solder. My preference is a 63/37 alloy (eutectic) which will be the lowest melting point solder - but more important it has no plastic state, it goes from a liquid to a solid with no plastic state in between. That is the cure for what we used to

[Elecraft] Solder rot?

2011-03-09 Thread Brian Jones
Anyone got any thoughts - my K2 has been playing up with the serial connection so I investigated and ... The entire serial board is no longer the neat bright solder joints that were there when I made it. Instead almost every joint is a dull matt grey and in many places there are bits of white

Re: [Elecraft] Solder rot?

2011-03-09 Thread Don Wilhelm
Brian, Is there any chance that you used a lead-free solder on that board? Your description certainly sounds like that may have been the case. The white residue could be the start of tin whisker formation, but could also be caused by flux removal attempts. Attempts to remove flux can

Re: [Elecraft] Solder rot?

2011-03-09 Thread David Gilbert
Tin whiskers form in the presence of moisture and high electric fields, and I doubt there are high enough E-fields in a K2 to do that ... especially at the circuit board level. Plus, tin whiskers usually have a spider web appearance. A whitish powder, on the other hand, is much more likely

[Elecraft] Solder Rot and Circuit Board Cleanup

2011-03-09 Thread sheajohnw
Resoldering the connections is a good idea. As far as cleanup, I have a K2 that was involved in a house fire in 2003. The recovered K2 was wet totally soot black, the bezel was melted and the knobs heat distorted. I was advised to try cleaning it up with isopropyl alcohol on Q-tips and

RE: [Elecraft] Solder fumes

2008-03-25 Thread Michael Harvey
... K2 4841 Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2008 19:51:00 + From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net CC: Subject: [Elecraft] Solder fumes It goes without saying that Elecraft have produced an excellent piece of technology in the K3 but even in the kit form it doesn't quite have the I built

[Elecraft] Solder fumes

2008-03-23 Thread Trevor Smithers
It goes without saying that Elecraft have produced an excellent piece of technology in the K3 but even in the kit form it doesn't quite have the I built it feeling like the other Elecraft products. Having said that I'm sure there is no way that the average builder could attempt something quite

Re: [Elecraft] Solder fumes

2008-03-23 Thread Robert Tellefsen
and a rather anemic radio at 10m and 160m. Just a few ideas. 73, Bob N6WG The Little Station with Attitude - Original Message - From: Trevor Smithers [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 11:51 AM Subject: [Elecraft] Solder fumes It goes

Re: [Elecraft] Solder and flux

2008-01-23 Thread Bob Nielsen
@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] Solder and flux I solder at 800F with a Weller temp-controlled iron and have a little tub of Kesler 44 rosin flux on the bench. When reheating a joint I take an Exacto knife with the number 11 blade(the pointed triangular one that is also good for removing

[Elecraft] Solder station and ESD

2007-08-21 Thread Euan
I’ve just purchased a soldering station for K2 construction and am wondering if it is properly ESD safe. It is O/C between the tip and the ground pin of the wall plug. However the station does have a grounding terminal on the back, and tip – terminal measures 1 meg ohm. Will this be ESD safe,

Re: [Elecraft] Solder station and ESD

2007-08-21 Thread Don Wilhelm
Euan, That is an 'isolated tip' type soldering station which allows safe work on live circuits. The 1 megohm resistance says that it is protected for ESD. Yes, ground the terminal lug - the wall socket should do for dissipating normal static charges. 73, Don W3FPR Euan wrote: I’ve just

Re: [Elecraft] Solder in Elecraft kits - Business Opportunity?

2007-08-01 Thread N2EY
In a message dated 7/31/07 10:10:23 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: why not just put solder in the kit? (Like Heathkit used to do.) IIRC, Heath did not always include solder in their kits. They finally started to do so because of all the problems caused by builders

[Elecraft] Solder in Elecraft kits - Business Opportunity?

2007-08-01 Thread Fred (FL)
While as a young EE engineer at Eastman Kodak, in Rochester - we were immersed in a active employee suggestion program. Every accepted suggestion, especially if a cost-saver - would result in Kodak giving submitter employee(s) a percentage 1-time of the dollars saved for the company. The recent

[Elecraft] Solder

2007-08-01 Thread Jeremiah McCarthy
Good idea...I do the same using an empty sewing thread spool...Holding a one pound spool of solder while soldering 17 relays can get very tiring on an arthritic wrist...G Jerry, wa2dkg For some time, I have used a fly-tying bobbin as a solder dispenser. If you don't know what that is, go to a

RE: [Elecraft] Solder in Elecraft kits - Business Opportunity?

2007-08-01 Thread Craig Rairdin
While as a young EE engineer at Eastman Kodak, in Rochester - we were immersed in a active employee suggestion program. When I worked for Rockwell Collins (the old Collins Radio Company) they had a Productivity Improvement Program. We had to submit ideas for posters to be put up around the

[Elecraft] Solder in Elecraft kits - Business Opportunity?

2007-08-01 Thread Fred (FL)
Craig - in the late 80's early 90's, I used to run a large Uncle Sam gov microelectronics program - and we had a contract with I believe TRW or Rockwell, whom had taken over that facility from Collins. The Collins ARC still had their tower off to 1 side. Neat area - very close to Newport Beach,

[Elecraft] solder in kits, the sequel

2007-08-01 Thread Leo Bricker
I am a fairly new ham. I'll probably be thought of poorly by some, based on prior readings here, however I managed to grow up not learning to solder or build kits or anything similar. I have virtually no tools for such activities either. Based on my readings here and elsewhere I find the Elecraft

Re: [Elecraft] solder in kits, the sequel

2007-08-01 Thread Matt Palmer
In response to the solder comments i'd like to contribute my $0.02 : IDM, As long as the solder is not on the prohibited list it doesn't matter. There I said it, everyone proceed to gasp and freak out. I'm still working on my K2 slowly, and have now used more than 6 different kinds of solder

Re: [Elecraft] Solder in Elecraft kits - Business Opportunity?

2007-08-01 Thread Michael B
Or credit for a K3 or other elecraft item. On 8/1/07, Craig Rairdin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While as a young EE engineer at Eastman Kodak, in Rochester - we were immersed in a active employee suggestion program. When I worked for Rockwell Collins (the old Collins Radio Company) they had

Re: [Elecraft] Solder in Elecraft kits

2007-08-01 Thread Tom McCulloch
I haven't been following this thread, but the poster seems to make a valid point. I built K2 #1103 several years ago and the thinking at that time was to use an alloy of silver solder. So that's what I did. Once my kit was built I more or less ignored the posts regarding solder, but about a

RE: [Elecraft] Solder in Elecraft kits

2007-08-01 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom McCulloch Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2007 7:07 PM To: Marty Young; Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Solder in Elecraft kits I haven't been following this thread, but the poster seems to make a valid point. I built K2 #1103

Re: [Elecraft] Solder in Elecraft kits

2007-08-01 Thread Don Wilhelm
Tom, There is no one universally 'good' solder. Each builder has what is familiar to him and has worked well in the past. I offer my own best explanations below: I do know of one expert builder who uses .031 diameter solder for everything, including SMD construction - but he is an

[Elecraft] Solder in a tube

2007-07-31 Thread J F
Marty, Several places have solder in a tube ala: http://www.amazon.com/Kester-Electronic-Solder-040-Tube/dp/B0002BSP2C I'm sure Mouser has this as well... AmQRP is the only group I've dealt with that included solder in a kit. It was nice, much finer than what I have on hand and intended for SMT

[Elecraft] Solder (in a tube) Dispenser

2007-07-31 Thread Neal Enault
I agree that solder in a tube is convenient, but it limits your choice of solder types and is not too economical. For some time, I have used a fly-tying bobbin as a solder dispenser. If you don't know what that is, go to a fly-fishing shop or a well-equipped sporting goods store. Be

[Elecraft] Solder in Elecraft kits

2007-07-31 Thread Jeremiah McCarthy
I don't think Elecraft should supply solder...It might be a nice gesture, but with the escalating price of solder due to RoHS, I think it would place an unnecessary economic and RoHS compliance burden on Elecraft which could impact the price of kits...If the builder is green, he has the choice

Re: [Elecraft] Solder in Elecraft kits

2007-07-31 Thread AJSOENKE
I taught classes using heathkit resources for many years until 1999 when they gave it up. In the end they still shipped some kits as part of their educational effort and I had my students building hundreds of their kits. They were by far the best choice for education. After taking a break

Re: [Elecraft] Solder in Elecraft kits

2007-07-31 Thread Stuart Rohre
In my Heathkit time, they did not provide the solder, (1957). First I tried Kester rosin core. But later, I bought Ersin Multicore, (today Multicore Solders), upon the suggestion of some experienced ham, and it was the most superior solder I had used. I used Kester, but did not get the

Re: [Elecraft] Solder in Elecraft kits

2007-07-31 Thread Jim Brown
Is this guy serious? I know hams are cheap, but this takes the cake! Next he's gonna want dikes, needlenose, a magnifier, and a soldering iron! 73, Jim Brown K9YC ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a

Re: [Elecraft] Solder in Elecraft kits

2007-07-31 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
Guys - As per the list guidelines, please do make personal attacks against others on the list. Its inappropriate and unnecessary. Let's keep it cordial. :-) 73, Eric WA6HHQ Elecraft List Moderator Jim Brown wrote: Is this guy serious? I know hams are cheap, but this takes the cake!

RE: [Elecraft] Solder in Elecraft kits

2007-07-31 Thread Brett gazdzinski
From monitoring the mail here, it would seem like a lot (most?) of the problems with the kits are solder related. I had no problems with anything I have built, despite very fast build times, and I would guess that is because I have had LOTS of soldering practice. (solder all day long for years

Re: [Elecraft] Solder in Elecraft kits

2007-07-31 Thread Thom LaCosta
On Tue, 31 Jul 2007, Jim Brown wrote: Is this guy serious? I know hams are cheap, but this takes the cake! Next he's gonna want dikes, needlenose, a magnifier, and a soldering iron! And then, in order to offset the costs, Elecraft could ship the manual and a small selection of paint and

Re: [Elecraft] Solder in Elecraft kits

2007-07-31 Thread Thom LaCosta
On Tue, 31 Jul 2007, Thom LaCosta wrote: On Tue, 31 Jul 2007, Jim Brown wrote: And Jim Brown bounces messages sent to him wanting folks to confirm that they really sent them. It's like calling CQ and when you hear an answer, telling the person to send you a QSL and then you'll answer.

Fwd: Re: [Elecraft] Solder in Elecraft kits

2007-07-31 Thread Marty Young
elecraft@mailman.qth.net Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 15:29:56 -0700 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Solder in Elecraft kits Is this guy serious? I know hams are cheap, but this takes the cake! Next he's gonna want dikes, needlenose, a magnifier, and a soldering iron! 73, Jim Brown K9YC

Re: Fwd: Re: [Elecraft] Solder in Elecraft kits

2007-07-31 Thread Jim Brown
On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 19:09:32 -0700 (PDT), Marty Young wrote: Yes, I was serious. If you disagree, rather than insult me, why not make an intelligent argument to the contrary? Many others did. OK, I will. I've been a ham for ___ Elecraft mailing

Re: Fwd: Re: [Elecraft] Solder in Elecraft kits

2007-07-31 Thread Jim Brown
Yes, I was serious. If you disagree, rather than insult me, why not make an intelligent argument to the contrary? Many others did. OK, I will. This is not a personal attack, it is a statement of philosophy. Notice that I took names off this post and the previous one. I've been a ham for 52

Re: Re: [Elecraft] Solder in Elecraft kits

2007-07-31 Thread Ken Kopp
Marty, You're cutting off your nose to spite your face, so goes an old saying. So someone was maybe less-than-kind in their reply. Happens sometimes ... There's a HUGE resirvoir of information and folks eager to help available for the asking on the reflector. Someone DID give a

[Elecraft] Solder for K3 - really

2007-07-05 Thread David Ferrington, M0XDF
I remember the long thread about solder to use - and I see the Warrant is up on the site for the K3, but since it is a solderless kit, I assume that bit doesn't appy? However, I've ordered an XV144 too and guess solder type does apply to that. I have solder going back 20 years, so not sure if it

Re: [Elecraft] Solder shelf life (flux)?

2007-06-17 Thread David Pratt
In a recent message, Mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote ... Does solder eventually go bad? I am still using 60/40 Multicore solder that I inherited from a previous employer forty years ago and it still works fine. I built my K2, K1 KX1, etc with it with no problems. 73 -- David G4DMP Leeds,

Re: [Elecraft] Solder shelf life (flux)?

2007-06-17 Thread Julian G4ILO
On 6/17/07, David Pratt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am still using 60/40 Multicore solder that I inherited from a previous employer forty years ago and it still works fine. I built my K2, K1 KX1, etc with it with no problems. That's the same stuff I'm using. I bought a reel as a kid of 16

[Elecraft] Solder shelf life (flux)?

2007-06-16 Thread Mike
Does solder eventually go bad? I'm sure the metal components don't, but I wonder about the flux. I'm talking about a span of many years. I'm using Multicore MM00979. What I'm using now is fresh, but I'm placing a Newark order for other stuff and thought I might include some more solder if

Re: [Elecraft] Solder shelf life (flux)?

2007-06-16 Thread Sandy
- Original Message - From: Mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2007 8:42 PM Subject: [Elecraft] Solder shelf life (flux)? Does solder eventually go bad? I'm sure the metal components don't, but I wonder about the flux. I'm talking about a span of many

RE: [Elecraft] Solder shelf life (flux)?

2007-06-16 Thread Robert Carroll
I just finished off a roll of Kester which was probably more than 10 years old. It was good to the end. Bob W2WG -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2007 9:43 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft

Re: [Elecraft] Solder shelf life (flux)?

2007-06-16 Thread AJSOENKE
Interesting question. Where I worked for many years we had very specific shelf life manuals on things organic like epoxies and paints and plastics. I'm not sure if I recall any shelf life on resin core solder. I have had rolls of the stuff that were 25 years old before they were used up, and

Fw: [Elecraft] Solder fume extractor recommendation solicited

2007-01-16 Thread Fred (FL)
If you are having these medical problems, with soldering - it might just mean that you aren't meant to do any soldering. There are plenty of K2 builder resources out there. I have a very good friend who had great allergic reactions to boat-building epoxy resins. Even years after the boat was

Re: [Elecraft] Solder fume extractor recommendation solicited

2007-01-16 Thread Alan D. Wilcox
I miss building the big boat anchors ... so when I needed a fume extractor, I thought to build it myself. The store-bought models are nice, but it's more fun this way! These images are part of a web page that's not yet built, but since the issue is here and now ... these are links to the

Re: Fw: [Elecraft] Solder fume extractor recommendation solicited

2007-01-16 Thread xlr
PROTECTED] Date: 2007/01/16 Tue AM 01:59:35 EST To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Fw: [Elecraft] Solder fume extractor recommendation solicited How about something as simple as a muffin fan on edge near the work ...either blowing across the work or inhaling across the work and carrying

Re: Fw: [Elecraft] Solder fume extractor recommendation solicited

2007-01-16 Thread Thom LaCosta
On Tue, 16 Jan 2007, Fred (FL) wrote: I suspect some of us are just allergic to certain situations and fumes or chemicals. Me it is bees .. I used to restore antiquesand after several bad reactions, the doc told me I could choose between the business an cortizone, or

[Elecraft] solder fume extractor

2007-01-16 Thread Steve Jackson
I have a Hakko 493 and I'm quite pleased with it, although I don't use it as often as I probably should. It's quiet and does not take up a lot of space. I got mine surplus for a fraction of the new price. I am WAY too cheap to pay street for such a gizmo ... but then again, it's not a necessity

[Elecraft] Solder fume extractor recommendation solicited

2007-01-15 Thread Dick Dievendorff
I find myself suffering asthma-like symptoms after hunching over a fascinating project breathing solder fumes for a few hours. My tolerance for this hasn't improved over the years, and I have gotten into some real panic situations because I felt that I couldn't breathe at all after soldering

Re: [Elecraft] Solder fume extractor recommendation solicited

2007-01-15 Thread Lyle Johnson
What devices would you recommend? I'm willing to spend $100, but I'd prefer not to invest in some sort of industrial-strength device that costs $500 or more and needs to be wheeled around. How well do these things work for you? I've been using a Hakko 493 for a couple of years. If you get

Re: [Elecraft] Solder fume extractor recommendation solicited

2007-01-15 Thread Sam Morgan
Dick Dievendorff wrote: I find myself suffering asthma-like symptoms after hunching over a fascinating project breathing solder fumes for a few hours. My tolerance for this hasn't improved over the years, and I have gotten into some real panic situations because I felt that I couldn't breathe

Re: [Elecraft] Solder fume extractor recommendation solicited

2007-01-15 Thread David Cutter
but also reduces manual dexterity. David G3UNA - Original Message - From: Dick Dievendorff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 1:34 AM Subject: [Elecraft] Solder fume extractor recommendation solicited I find myself suffering asthma-like

Fw: [Elecraft] Solder fume extractor recommendation solicited

2007-01-15 Thread Ken Kopp
How about something as simple as a muffin fan on edge near the work ...either blowing across the work or inhaling across the work and carrying the fumes away from the work area. You can find either 12VDC or 115VAC versions at Radio Scrap. 73! Ken Kopp - K0PP [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL

Re: [Elecraft] solder

2006-12-22 Thread Tom Hammond
Robert Johansen wrote: I found an interesting article on the internet regarding Lead free solder: http://www.jgpp.com/projects/lead_free_soldering/03_27_02_presentations/bmamsg.pdf For those who visit this document, the Lead-Free Solder tests begin on page 10 of this document. 73, Tom

Re: [Elecraft] solder

2006-12-22 Thread Robert Johansen
Hi Tom, Thank you for correcting the hyperlink and adding the starting page. The pictures and graph show another reason why we should avoid using Lead free solder. Merry Christmas to ALL, appreciate all of the comments, it made an interesting read for a soldering tutorial 73, Bob

[Elecraft] Solder

2006-12-21 Thread RBrigham1
I just received a box with K2 parts in it and #5924 on the outside, and I am REALLY looking forward to some time off this holiday so I can dig in. But I have a solder question before I start. I have a brand new spool of Kester Pb-free solder (98%Sn and 2%CU+Ag) with what I recall is standard

Re: [Elecraft] Solder

2006-12-21 Thread Rob Locher W7GH
Hi Rob, To quote Eric Swartz: We -strongly- recommend continuing to use regular lead based solder to build our kits. Kester 44, and other 63/37, 60/40 lead/tin mix solders are not going away in the US or in Eu and work much better for soldering both RoHS and non-RoHS tinned parts. Removal

[Elecraft] Solder

2006-12-21 Thread Robert Johansen
Hi Rob, No I do not think that this solder is recommended, you may void the warranty if you need to send the unit in to Elecraft for repair. I built my K2 and other elctronic projects using the Kester 63/37 Tin lead based solder that is recommended by Elecraft Please refer to Elecraft webpage

RE: [Elecraft] Solder

2006-12-21 Thread RBrigham1
Ok, The point is well taken. I will use only my standard Pb/Sn for the K2 and save the Pb-free stuff for a few specialty projects. Thanks for your input. (This was my first question to the group - thanks for your input). 73 Rob KC6ROC ___ Elecraft

[Elecraft] Solder

2006-12-21 Thread Fred (FL)
DO NOT USE LEAD-FREE SOLDER! It's not even good for fishing sinkers! Good old Kester, thinner .020 is the best. Try to find # SN63PB37 #58/285, 24-6337-9700, J-STD lead solder, if you can! Most of the recommended Elecraft solder suppliers carry it. You end up with nice joints, and not too

RE: [Elecraft] Solder

2006-12-21 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
I hope we didn't drive you away with the answers, Rob! Keep in mind that there is NOTHING wrong with the quality and durability of joints that lead-free solder makes. It's great stuff that works very well. For hand work there are two important issues that recommend against its use: 1) Lead-free

RE: [Elecraft] Solder

2006-12-21 Thread RBrigham1
Ron D'Eau Claire [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hope we didn't drive you away with the answers, Rob! snip Nope, Still here, and glad for the input about flux too. KC6ROC+ ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber

[Elecraft] solder

2006-12-21 Thread Robert Johansen
I found an interesting article on the internet regarding Lead free solder: http://www.jgpp.com/projects/lead_free_soldering/03_27_02_presentations/b mamsg.pdf Now I understand the reason why its use should be avoided for electronic kit assembly. I have been using Kester 44 Tin lead solder for

RE: [Elecraft] Solder

2006-12-21 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Mike S wrote: There are real concerns that lead-free solders are less reliable. Lead free solder joints are more fragile - http://www.pcbrc.com/dev/PDFs/WhitePaper-SACfragility1.pdf Little is known about how to avoid the tin whisker problem, and the corresponding reliability issues -

RE: [Elecraft] Solder

2006-12-21 Thread Mike S
At 06:51 PM 12/21/2006, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote... I hope we didn't drive you away with the answers, Rob! Keep in mind that there is NOTHING wrong with the quality and durability of joints that lead-free solder makes. It's great stuff that works very well. It's very premature to make that

Re: [Elecraft] Solder weller tips

2006-12-04 Thread G. Beat
PROTECTED] To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 4:51 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Solder weller tips OK what type Weller is best, gun ? Iron ? Model ? Bob ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must

[Elecraft] Solder weller tips

2006-11-29 Thread Ken Chandler
Hi all My K2/100 is dispatched and awaiting arrival. I have been advised to use lead solder for building the kit. Looking through my junk box I have found a 500g reel of leaded solder, 0.7mm dia, it's alloy is 8 - sn63pb37, I presum this is ok for the job in hand!! Lastly tips, I have a weller

RE: [Elecraft] Solder weller tips

2006-11-29 Thread Don Wilhelm
Ken, I believe that solder will work fine for you - the 63/37 alloy is quite desirable, so as long as the flux is good for electronic work, you are in business. Yes, a 700 degree F. tip is great. I prefer ones with a 1.5 to 3 mm screwdriver type tip, but the conical ones work good for many

RE: [Elecraft] Solder weller tips

2006-11-29 Thread Ben Hofmann K1NT
Ken, I am currently working on building my KPA100. As far as the tip temperature goes, I have had to turn my temp up on several joints to about 800F especially on many of the ground connections, as the ground plane is very large on parts of the board. For comparison, I believe I kept the temp

Re: [Elecraft] Solder weller tips

2006-11-29 Thread Timothy Raymer
Ken, Use the biggest 700°F Tip that you have for a given soldering job. The more mass the tip has, the better. Tim Raymer Ken Chandler [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/29/06 08:22:38 Hi all My K2/100 is dispatched and awaiting arrival. I have been advised to use lead solder for building the kit.

Re: [Elecraft] Solder weller tips

2006-11-29 Thread Ken Chandler
: RE: [Elecraft] Solder weller tips Ken, I am currently working on building my KPA100. As far as the tip temperature goes, I have had to turn my temp up on several joints to about 800F especially on many of the ground connections, as the ground plane is very large on parts of the board

[Elecraft] Solder

2006-11-24 Thread Jeremiah McCarthy
I might be reading something into this issue that is not there...I get the impression that there are some folks who believe that once the soldering iron is hot and you clean and tin the tip, that is the only time it needs to be done, and if you need to clean and tin it more than once, something

  1   2   >