Re: [Elecraft] K3: Noisy Fans

2008-12-10 Thread David Ferrington, M0XDF
double check the fan wires that run between the fan casing and the back panel - it might not be possible to see those from the top and you would need to remove the fans from the back panel. But you might be able to tell by slowly rotating the fan manually, if it was a wire, you might be able

Re: [Elecraft] K3: Noisy Fans

2008-12-10 Thread Tim Heasman
Hi All, The fan noise does not get louder than my tinitus until on speed 4, and then I can only hear air noise. 73 Tim gm4lmh # 1245 - Original Message - From: Barry Simpson To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 9:33 AM Subject: [Elecraft] K3:

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Noisy fans?

2008-12-09 Thread GW0ETF
Take the top cover off the radio Charlie and check for nearby connecting wires contacting the fans - when they do you get an alarming buzz but if the degree of contact is very slight I presume it may just sound like a 'normal' noisy fan. The K3 fans are completely noiseless. BTW you don't have

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Noisy fans?

2008-12-09 Thread David Ferrington, M0XDF
The fans are whisper quiet on the K3, if yours aren’t there is something wrong - possibly as suggested by Stewart below, a wire touching the hub or the blades, or possibly a missing washer causing distortion to the fan casing. Mine just don't come on and I have to use the CONFIG menu entry

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Noisy fans?

2008-12-09 Thread Joe Planisky
Charlie, Yes, I have battled the fan noise, too. I got replacement fans which seemed a little quieter, but I still had no doubt when they were running. I noticed that if I removed the fan panel from the rig and held it in my hand while the fans were running, they were very quiet. So I

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Noisy fans?

2008-12-09 Thread David Ferrington, M0XDF
That's how my K3 is set up too, in a corner where walls can reflect any noise. I still think there is something else wrong. 73 de M0XDF, K3 #174 -- They know enough who know how to learn. -Henry Adams (1838-1918) On 9 Dec 2008, at 14:55, Joe Planisky wrote: I've also found that where I place

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Noisy fans?

2008-12-09 Thread Joe Planisky
I think you got lucky and have extra quiet fans :-) 73 -- Joe KB8AP On Dec 9, 2008, at 7:20 AM, David Ferrington, M0XDF wrote: That's how my K3 is set up too, in a corner where walls can reflect any noise. I still think there is something else wrong. 73 de M0XDF, K3 #174 -- They know enough

RE: [Elecraft] K3 Noisy fans?

2008-12-09 Thread Rob May
I can't hear my fans at all. I periodically turn them on from the menu to make sure they are working. The back of the K3 is just a few inches from the wall so I would expect any sound to be reflected right back to me. On the other hand the fan on my 746Pro (sitting right next to it) is very

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Noisy fans?

2008-12-09 Thread Monty Shultes
My fans make no audible sound. Monty K2DLJ a/n 699 I think you got lucky and have extra quiet fans :-) 73 -- Joe KB8AP On Dec 9, 2008, at 7:20 AM, David Ferrington, M0XDF wrote: That's how my K3 is set up too, in a corner where walls can reflect any noise. I still think there is

RE: [Elecraft] K3 Noisy fans?

2008-12-09 Thread Jim
No fan noise here. Actually had to look closely. Yep! They are running. 73 de KE4WY Jim -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rob May Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 10:58 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3 Noisy fans

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Noisy fans?

2008-12-09 Thread ON4WIX
: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 4:56 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Noisy fans? I think you got lucky and have extra quiet fans :-) 73 -- Joe KB8AP On Dec 9, 2008, at 7:20 AM, David Ferrington, M0XDF wrote: That's how my K3 is set up too, in a corner where walls can

RE: [Elecraft] K3 Noisy fans?

2008-12-09 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe Planisky Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 7:56 AM To: David Ferrington, M0XDF Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Noisy fans? I think you got lucky and have extra quiet fans :-) 73 -- Joe KB8AP On Dec 9, 2008, at 7:20 AM, David Ferrington, M0XDF wrote

RE: [Elecraft] K3 Noisy fans?

2008-12-09 Thread Adam Koczarski
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:elecraft- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe Planisky Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 7:56 AM To: David Ferrington, M0XDF Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Noisy fans? I think you got lucky and have extra

RE: [Elecraft] K3 Noisy fans?

2008-12-09 Thread Gary Smith
Though my K3 is still in utero and I have no personal experence with the fan noise on it yet, I might suggest getting some foam baffling like you see on some speaker grills and mount that behind the radio and if possible, angle the batting to deflect the fans sound waves above or below, so

RE: [Elecraft] K3 Noisy fans?

2008-12-09 Thread Bill Johnson
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 9:56 AM To: David Ferrington, M0XDF Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Noisy fans? I think you got lucky and have extra quiet fans :-) 73 -- Joe KB8AP ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Noisy fans?

2008-12-09 Thread Milt, N5IA
I think you got lucky and have extra quiet fans :-) I had to look, or feel, to see that mine were running during the build test of the fans. Very quite even at the forth setting. Adam - KA7ARK They have fans on them? Guess I better take a look and make sure there are some installed on

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Noisy fans?

2008-12-09 Thread W7TEA
When I received my factory built K3 last spring (#1001) I thought the fans were louder than I expected after reading about folks who had to physically check to see if there fans were on. I could hear the fans start up through my headphones when PA temp hit 37C. I sent the rig back and the good

re: [Elecraft] K3 Noisy fans?

2008-12-09 Thread Mike Scott
Has anyone tried to quiet them down with vibration isolators, etc? Wow, I have never heard my fans, not a peep. I have seen them run and felt the air flow out the back but sound, no. Something sounds wrong with your fans. Mike Scott - AE6WA Tarzana, CA (DM04 / near LA) K3-100 #508/ KX1 #1311

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Noisy fans?

2008-12-09 Thread Stephen Prior
I have certainly been surprised by folks who say they cannot hear their fans. I can (although they rarely come on) and I even had Gary send some replacement units, but when I changed them over the improvement was not great. I've checked all likely reasons, it's not the sound of a fan touching

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Noisy fans?

2008-12-09 Thread Joe Planisky
it. Ron AC7AC -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe Planisky Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 7:56 AM To: David Ferrington, M0XDF Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Noisy fans? I think you got lucky and have extra quiet

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Noisy fans?

2008-12-09 Thread Stephen Prior
Joe My fans are Utec too, same part numbers too. I wonder why the part numbers are different? 73 Stephen G4SJP On 09/12/2008 18:43, Joe Planisky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I stand corrected. There are apparently a lot of quiet K3s out there. I wonder if the quiet fans are from a

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Noisy fans?

2008-12-09 Thread Richard Ferch
The fan noise depends on the fan setting, which in turn depends not only on the duty cycle but also on the ambient temperature. On mine (#1595), FAN1 is almost inaudible (almost completely drowned out by the noise of my computer's fan), FAN2 is audible but not obtrusive, and FAN3 and FAN4 get

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Noisy fans?

2008-12-09 Thread K9ZTV
Serial No. 21 . . . absolutely zero fan noise. Kent K9ZTV Ron D'Eau Claire wrote: There were a number of comments among the first customers that the fans were so quiet they couldn't tell if they were running without turning the rig around and looking at them. That's how mine are too

RE: [Elecraft] K3 Noisy fans?

2008-12-09 Thread Adam Koczarski
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:elecraft- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stephen Prior Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 10:52 AM To: elecraft Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Noisy fans? Joe I wonder why the part numbers are different? Maybe because the power

RE: [Elecraft] K3 Noisy fans?

2008-12-09 Thread Jack Regan
No noise here. I often run barefoot with no amp, no headphones, no computer, and the rig is in a corner! Jack AE6GC K3-100 Kit #1433 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Noisy fans?

2008-12-09 Thread Joe Planisky
I find that at an ambient temp. of about 17C, 75 W into a dummy load, it takes about a minute and a half of CW at 18 WPM to raise the PA temp from 23C to 37C, the temp at which the fans come on at the slowest speed. 73 -- Joe KB8AP On Dec 9, 2008, at 10:55 AM, Richard Ferch wrote: The

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Noisy fans?

2008-12-09 Thread Iain MacDonnell - N6ML
Adam Koczarski wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:elecraft- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe Planisky Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 7:56 AM To: David Ferrington, M0XDF Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Noisy fans? I think you got lucky

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Noisy fans?

2008-12-09 Thread Toby Deinhardt
Wow, I have never heard my fans, not a peep. I have seen them run and felt the air flow out the back but sound, no. I regularly run around to the backside of the table to check that haven't been stolen or dropped off or... ;-) I can confirm that my K3's blowers are barely audible, as others

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Noisy fans?

2008-12-09 Thread Missouri Guy
Thanks Tom (and several others too!), I'll contact Elecraft. Screws tight, but not over-tightened. Finger guards centered. Fans move air in the right direction. Also, nothing touching the blades. I did notice that the instructions said to install some bushings at the corners of the fans.

K3 PA Temp Max (was Re: [Elecraft] K3 Noisy fans?)

2008-12-09 Thread Jeff Wandling W7BRS via K3List
I'm glad someone brought this up. My question is: What is the safe temp range for the KPA3? I can get the PA temp up to 56C at full power (100W). Fans are of course on full-bore at this point and I still can barely hear them. At what PA Temp do I need to be concerned? I'm using the

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Noisy fans?

2008-12-09 Thread David Wilburn
] On Behalf Of Joe Planisky Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 7:56 AM To: David Ferrington, M0XDF Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Noisy fans? I think you got lucky and have extra quiet fans :-) 73 -- Joe KB8AP On Dec 9, 2008, at 7:20 AM, David Ferrington, M0XDF wrote: That's

RE: [Elecraft] K3 Noisy fans?

2008-12-09 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
and nothing was touching the blades. Ron AC7AC From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Missouri Guy Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 12:37 PM To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Noisy fans? Thanks Tom (and several others too!), I'll contact

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Noisy fans?

2008-12-09 Thread Iain MacDonnell - N6ML
PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe Planisky Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 7:56 AM To: David Ferrington, M0XDF Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Noisy fans? I think you got lucky and have extra quiet fans :-) 73 -- Joe KB8AP On Dec 9, 2008, at 7:20 AM, David Ferrington, M0XDF wrote

Re: K3 PA Temp Max (was Re: [Elecraft] K3 Noisy fans?)

2008-12-09 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
We're good to at least 85C (which is still below the max temp for the transistors) where the firmware will automatically drop the 100W amp out of line to protect it. You can run all day below that level. 73, Eric WA6HHQ Jeff Wandling W7BRS via K3List wrote: I'm glad someone brought this

RE: [Elecraft] K3 Noisy fans?

2008-12-08 Thread W7TMT
I ran my K3 hard enough over the weekend to think about monitoring the PA temp. As I was CQing on Saturday when condx were el-stinko from where I am and responses were few and far between I watched the temp slowly rise until it got to 50C and then stabilize. Curious to see what the fans sounded

RE: [Elecraft] K3 Noisy fans?

2008-12-08 Thread Ed Muns
I was trying to ferret out some weak signals on 160m when the cooling fans switched on, making it very hard to hear over the whine of the fans (or fan) even through the padding on my headphones. Has anyone tried to quiet them down with vibration isolators, etc? This is not normal.

RE: [Elecraft] K3 Noisy fans?

2008-12-08 Thread Trond Stubberud
. Maybe some of us have got fans which is not within Elecrafts specs ? 73, Trond LA8NHA K1 # 1995 K2 # 6594 -Opprinnelig melding- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] På vegne av W7TMT Sendt: 09 December, 2008 7:24 AM Til: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Emne: RE: [Elecraft] K3 Noisy fans