Re: [EM] multidimensional medians

2007-02-21 Thread Rob LeGrand
are different. It is also rotationally invariant. -- Rob LeGrand, psephologist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Citizens for Approval Voting http://www.approvalvoting.org/ Any questions? Get answers on any topic

Re: [EM] multidimensional medians

2007-02-21 Thread Rob LeGrand
) and is unique unless you have an even number of collinear points and the middle two are different. It is also rotationally invariant. A good reference is Christopher G. Small. A Survey of Multidimensional Medians. International Statistical Review, 58(3):263-277. Dec. 1990. -- Rob LeGrand

Re: [EM] A note on Approval strategy A.

2006-06-08 Thread Rob LeGrand
and Borda strategies for use with DSV. -- Rob LeGrand, psephologist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Citizens for Approval Voting http://www.approvalvoting.org/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Re: [EM] An example of BTR-STV

2006-06-08 Thread Rob LeGrand
{A, C} is a better winner set than {A, B} even though B is the Condorcet winner. (I didn't suggest a name for the method when I proposed it, but it has been called the orphan method, LeGrand IRV and BTR-IRV.) -- Rob LeGrand, psephologist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Citizens for Approval Voting http

Re: [EM] Real IRV Election, Disputable Result

2006-03-10 Thread Rob LeGrand
, thanks to Brian for pointing this out. -- Rob LeGrand, psephologist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Citizens for Approval Voting http://www.approvalvoting.org/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Re: [EM] Approval Voting elections don't always have an equilibrium

2005-12-24 Thread Rob LeGrand
approval DSV strategy-A equilibria (which also turn out to be strong Nash equilibria): 49:A 21:B 30:CB 49:A 21:BC 30:C -- Rob LeGrand, psephologist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Citizens for Approval Voting http://www.approvalvoting.org/ __ Yahoo

[EM] Re: Summed Ranks (SR)

2005-09-20 Thread Rob LeGrand
. I think it's my new favorite ranked-ballot system. (Or maybe slightly better, spread out the different voted rank levels evenly over a range. For example, A=BCDE=F=GH=I would give A and B 100 points, C 75, D 50, E, F and G 25 and H and I 0.) -- Rob LeGrand, psephologist [EMAIL PROTECTED

[EM] Re: Empirical data on cycles

2005-09-06 Thread Rob LeGrand
or winning-votes. I think it would be a mistake to insist on winning-votes if it turns out that margins is an easier sell for public elections. Kevin, could you post an example that gives a favorite-betrayal incentive under margins but not winning-votes? -- Rob LeGrand, psephologist [EMAIL PROTECTED

[EM] Re: Citation for immunity to strategic voting?

2005-09-03 Thread Rob LeGrand
insincerely is NP- hard. See Bartholdi III, John J., Craig A. Tovey and Michael A. Trick. The computational difficulty of manipulating an election. Social Choice and Welfare, 6(3):227-241, 1989. -- Rob LeGrand, psephologist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Citizens for Approval Voting http://www.approvalvoting.org

[EM] Re: Empirical data on cycles

2005-09-03 Thread Rob LeGrand
ranking near the bottom even when insincere (and even in the zero-info case!) that I prefer margins to winning-votes. -- Rob LeGrand, psephologist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Citizens for Approval Voting http://www.approvalvoting.org/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired

[EM] Re: Citation for immunity to strategic voting?

2005-09-02 Thread Rob LeGrand
Condorcet methods, like Baldwin (Borda-elimination) and Arrow-Raynaud (minimax-elimination), now give C as the winner. I'm sure someone else will post a more compelling example. -- Rob LeGrand, psephologist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Citizens for Approval Voting http://www.approvalvoting.org

[EM] Re: Range voting is just a Borda count with a bunch of throwaway candidates

2005-08-19 Thread Rob LeGrand
problems would result. -- Rob LeGrand, psephologist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Citizens for Approval Voting http://www.approvalvoting.org/ Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs Election

[EM] Corrected statement from the CAV/AAV Board

2005-08-14 Thread Rob LeGrand
(2005, forthcoming). END OF STATEMENT -- Rob LeGrand, psephologist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Citizens for Approval Voting http://www.approvalvoting.org/ Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs

[EM] Re: simplcity of range v condorcet

2005-08-13 Thread Rob LeGrand
to hurt B's chances. And under a winning-votes system I'd strategize by voting A=BC even if I knew nothing or expected it to be a close three-way race. Following this intuitive Borda-style strategy under Approval or Range Voting never requires expression of an insincere pairwise preference. -- Rob

[EM] Statement from the CAV/AAV Board

2005-08-13 Thread Rob LeGrand
. END OF STATEMENT -- Rob LeGrand, psephologist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Citizens for Approval Voting http://www.approvalvoting.org/ Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs Election-methods

[EM] Raynaud not monotonic

2005-03-24 Thread Rob LeGrand
Say in a Raynaud election the ranked ballots are 7:ABC 2:BAC 5:BCA 6:CAB C is eliminated and A wins. But if the BAC voters uprank A, giving 9:ABC 5:BCA 6:CAB B is eliminated and C wins. So A went from winning to losing with extra support. -- Rob LeGrand, psephologist [EMAIL PROTECTED

[EM] Re: Some hard example for Approval Voting

2005-03-22 Thread Rob LeGrand
naturally from the smart strategic moves. Declared Strategy Voting in ballot-by- ballot mode running for many rounds using Approval and strategy A elects them with approximate probabilities A 25.05%, B 12.99%, C 27.54% and D 34.42%. Rob LeGrand, psephologist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Citizens for Approval

[EM] Re: simulating an Approval campaign/election

2005-02-02 Thread Rob LeGrand
to approve B. Plus, a majority strictly prefers B to C. = Rob LeGrand, psephologist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Citizens for Approval Voting http://www.approvalvoting.org/ __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we

[EM] Re: simulating an Approval campaign/election

2005-02-01 Thread Rob LeGrand
the intervals between leader changes become longer and longer as the number of rounds increases.) To me, these results confirm my intuition that ballot-by-ballot (with a random voter order in each round) is a fairer way to find a winner than the batch modes given a large number of rounds. = Rob

[EM] Re: simulating an Approval campaign/election

2005-01-31 Thread Rob LeGrand
that has that property of weak sincerity. Anyway, the point is that I think Approval has the best combination of manipulation-resistance, convergence and quality of winners, not to mention simplicity. A little divergence is worth the better equilibria. = Rob LeGrand, psephologist [EMAIL

[EM] Re: Rewording Strategy A (BF(1st))

2005-01-27 Thread Rob LeGrand
. Thanks! = Rob LeGrand, psephologist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Citizens for Approval Voting http://www.approvalvoting.org/ __ Do you Yahoo!? The all-new My Yahoo! - What will yours do? http://my.yahoo.com Election-methods mailing list - see

[EM] Re: Random thought on Range Voting

2005-01-04 Thread Rob LeGrand
of one-person-one-vote, but instead a yes/no vote per choice. I think some major-party voters would still want to keep others from voting for many candidates, but it's hard to tell what would happen. = Rob LeGrand, psephologist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Citizens for Approval Voting http

[EM] Random thought on Range Voting

2005-01-03 Thread Rob LeGrand
approvals. But allowing n approvals in a race would allow n + 1 parties to compete fairly in that race, which is still a strict improvement over plurality. = Rob LeGrand, psephologist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Citizens for Approval Voting http://www.approvalvoting.org

[EM] Re: Automatic Criterion Checking

2004-11-18 Thread Rob LeGrand
like the Uncovered Set, Banks Set, Minimal Covering Set, Tournament Equilibrium Set, Markov Set etc. Jobst, could you post mathematical definitions and intuitive explanations for each of these sets? = Rob LeGrand, psephologist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Citizens for Approval Voting http

[EM] Re: seeking 5 candidate Condorcet example

2004-09-30 Thread Rob LeGrand
the following example works: 98:ACEDB 64:BAECD 12:BAEDC 98:BEACD 13:BEADC 125:BEDAC 124:CAEDB 76:CEADB 21:DABEC 30:DBAEC 98:DBECA 139:DCABE 23:DCBAE = Rob LeGrand, psephologist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Citizens for Approval Voting http://www.approvalvoting.org

[EM] Re: Proposal

2004-06-25 Thread Rob LeGrand
elect A, the Condorcet winner. = Rob LeGrand, psephologist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Citizens for Approval Voting http://www.approvalvoting.org/ __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 50x more storage than other providers! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail

[EM] Another SciAm voting mention

2004-06-17 Thread Rob LeGrand
), which is an unfortunate simplification. = Rob LeGrand, psephologist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Citizens for Approval Voting http://www.approvalvoting.org/ __ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - Send 10MB messages! http://promotions.yahoo.com

[EM] Bucklin not clone-independent

2004-04-08 Thread Rob LeGrand
. = Rob LeGrand, psephologist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Citizens for Approval Voting http://www.approvalvoting.org/ __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business $15K Web Design Giveaway http://promotions.yahoo.com/design_giveaway/ Election-methods mailing list - see http

[EM] Bucklin

2004-04-06 Thread Rob LeGrand
Here's a question I thought about quite a bit a while ago but never posted until now that there's talk of Bucklin on the list: Which candidate should win the following Bucklin election? 25:BrownJonesDavisSmith 26:DavisSmithBrownJones 49:JonesSmithBrownDavis Smith? Jones? = Rob

[EM] SciAm article

2004-02-13 Thread Rob LeGrand
. Oh, and I'd like to add one presidential nomination for the poll: Congressman Ron Paul (http://www.house.gov/paul/). = Rob LeGrand, psephologist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Citizens for Approval Voting http://www.approvalvoting.org/ __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance: Get

[EM] Nominations for presidential poll

2004-02-10 Thread Rob LeGrand
the winners of the above methods if asked. = Rob LeGrand, psephologist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Citizens for Approval Voting http://www.approvalvoting.org/ __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance: Get your refund fast by filing online. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html

[EM] Re: To Bill Lewis Clark re: stepping-stone

2004-01-24 Thread Rob LeGrand
for Libertarian presidential candidates. Support Approval Voting by voting for Michael at http://cass.molp.org/polls.htm ! = Rob LeGrand, psephologist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Citizens for Approval Voting http://www.approvalvoting.org/ __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo

[EM] Re: Cardinal Ratings vs. Approval Voting (vs. IRV)

2004-01-18 Thread Rob LeGrand
by voting 0 for B. In fact, by doing so, they'd remove the possibility that the C voters could elect B by voting 2 for B, which would be an improvement from their point of view. = Rob LeGrand, psephologist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Citizens for Approval Voting http://www.approvalvoting.org

[EM] Re: bicameral design poll

2004-01-05 Thread Rob LeGrand
representation scheme. = Rob LeGrand, psephologist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Citizens for Approval Voting http://www.approvalvoting.org/ __ Do you Yahoo!? Find out what made the Top Yahoo! Searches of 2003 http://search.yahoo.com/top2003 Election-methods mailing list - see

[EM] Re: Approval Strategy A- Question for Rob LeGrand

2003-11-24 Thread Rob LeGrand
by Steven Brams) and strategy I (adjust your previous Approval strategy just enough to differentiate between the latest top two candidates). = Rob LeGrand, psephologist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Citizens for Approval Voting http://www.approvalvoting.org/ __ Do you

[EM] Re: Approval Strategy A- Question for Rob LeGrand

2003-11-21 Thread Rob LeGrand
and last own vote. If anyone has a better one, or even an interesting new one, please let me know. = Rob LeGrand, psephologist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Citizens for Approval Voting http://www.approvalvoting.org/ __ Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now http

[EM] Re: Approval Strategy A- Question for Rob LeGrand

2003-11-20 Thread Rob LeGrand
an interesting example, though. I'll investigate it further and get back to you again. = Rob LeGrand, psephologist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Citizens for Approval Voting http://www.approvalvoting.org/ __ Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now http

Re: [EM] Intro to list (etc)

2003-10-28 Thread Rob LeGrand
could be extremely simple. = Rob LeGrand, psephologist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Citizens for Approval Voting http://www.approvalvoting.org/ __ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/ Election-methods

[EM] Re: Truncation, defeat strength, Landau

2003-09-06 Thread Rob LeGrand
, only the Smith set is reported. Try ACBFDE BCEFDA DBAFEC EABCFD EDABCF FCDABE or ACDEB BACED BAEDC DCEBA and click Calculate all winners for examples of the sets' differing. = Rob LeGrand, psephologist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Citizens for Approval Voting http://www.approvalvoting.org

[EM] My pages have moved

2003-08-28 Thread Rob LeGrand
For anyone who uses my ranked-ballot voting calculator, it and my other webpages have moved. Please see http://cec.wustl.edu/~rhl1/rbvote/ . = Rob LeGrand, psephologist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Citizens for Approval Voting http://www.approvalvoting.org/ __ Do you

[EM] Re: Cheering for simplicity/Orphan

2003-08-22 Thread Rob LeGrand
proportionality (which improves as n increases). So it's not obvious to me that the best multiwinner systems reduce in the single-winner case to the best single-winner systems. = Rob LeGrand, psephologist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Citizens for Approval Voting http://www.approvalvoting.org

[EM] Re: Nanson and Borda

2003-08-14 Thread Rob LeGrand
Note that Nanson eliminates all candidates that couldn't possibly be Condorcet winners based solely on Borda score. = Rob LeGrand, psephologist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Citizens for Approval Voting http://www.approvalvoting.org/ __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free

[EM] Re: Borda-Elimination

2003-08-03 Thread Rob LeGrand
of all Borda scores is zero, so a Condorcet winner's Borda score is always above average. Therefore it won't be eliminated at any stage of Baldwin or Nanson, so Baldwin and Nanson are Condorcet methods. = Rob LeGrand, psephologist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Citizens for Approval Voting http

[EM] Re: IRV for president: 2 votes overpower 105 million

2003-07-14 Thread Rob LeGrand
example effectively demonstrates IRV's caprice, but I think he has the wrong remedy in mind. -- Rob LeGrand [EMAIL PROTECTED] Citizens for Approval Voting http://www.approvalvoting.org/ __ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com