tramp.info v2.4

2001-04-16 Thread Tom_Roche
On Fri, 13 Apr 2001, Tom Roche wrote: So how to get the new manual? [EMAIL PROTECTED] 13 Apr 2001 23:01:54 +0200 You need Texinfo 4.x for this, though. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun, 15 Apr 2001 19:19 You can get my makeinfo 4.0 binary at

tramp ($Id: tramp.el,v 2.15 2001/04/13 16:35:07 grossjoh Exp $); can't copy from dired or copy-file

2001-04-13 Thread Tom_Roche
If I try to C on a file in a tramp-accessed dired, the operation hangs with the message Waiting for remote host to process data... With debug-on-quit set, I get *Backtrace* Signaling: (quit) accept-process-output(#process *tramp/t [EMAIL PROTECTED]* 1) tramp-wait-for-output()

Re: disable shell history, was: .sh_history problem

2001-04-12 Thread Tom_Roche
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 12 Apr 2001 17:30:49 +0200 Anyway, could somebody with a ksh try various things to turn off its history? How soon they forget :-) http://www.mail-archive.com/emacs-rcp@ls6.cs.uni-dortmund.de/ has a thread ".sh_history problem" that started Sat, 17 Mar 2001. It has 9 posts

Re: connection deltas

2001-04-12 Thread Tom_Roche
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 12 Apr 2001 18:26:16 +0200 Is there any reason not to send "HISTFILE=/dev/null" during the connection initialization? In my experience setting HISTFILE=/dev/null did not work: ksh merely made a tempfile. This might be n=1, however. Perhaps someone else can try some things on

Re: connection deltas

2001-04-12 Thread Tom_Roche
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In my experience setting HISTFILE=/dev/null did not work: ksh merely made a tempfile. "Stefan Monnier" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12 Apr 2001 17:53:49 -0400 Of course, this still uses up disk space, but now that only actual commands rather than file contents go into the

Re: tramp samba anyone?

2001-04-12 Thread Tom_Roche
Harry Putnam [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12 Apr 2001 16:10:37 -0700 Is [SMB] too different from the other protocols tramp understands? Preface my remarks with "not being a tramp expert," but ... I believe SMB is the next level down from the protocols tramp uses. To put it rather non-technically (and

Re: check in by grossjoh: 'tramp/lisp tramp.el,2.14 ChangeLog,2.11'

2001-04-12 Thread Tom_Roche
Kai Grossjohann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri, 13 Apr 2001 01:45:27 +0200 Log Message: (tramp-open-connection-setup-interactive-shell): Posix shells don't allow you to turn off the history, so we redirect it to an innocuous file and limits that file's size as much as possible. I can try this out.

Re: tramp samba anyone?

2001-04-12 Thread Tom_Roche
On 12 Apr 2001, Harry Putnam wrote: Has anyone every fiddled with getting tramp to work over smb protocol? [EMAIL PROTECTED] 13 Apr 2001 01:28:16 +0200 Tramp wants a login shell and expects to be talking to a Unixish system on the remote end. You could install an sshd and a bash on the

connection deltas

2001-04-11 Thread Tom_Roche
Kai Grojohann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Right. I would like Tramp to have support for this scenario. But my idea was to look at the file size then do the right thing automatically. (There would be a user option for setting the threshold.) "Stefan Monnier" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10 Apr 2001

method optimization, was: connection sharing, was: ...

2001-04-10 Thread Tom_Roche
On Mon, 09 Apr 2001, Tom Roche wrote: I also believe snip that there is some file size below which A is faster, and above which B is faster. [Thus] a fair number of users, fairly often (your quantification may vary :-), will therefore find themselves wanting to, on the same server, open some

keep connection open?

2001-04-09 Thread Tom_Roche
It appears that tramp closes its ssh connection to a given host when the last buffer connected with that host is killed. If I subsequently open another file on that host, I must then wait through the login, etc. Is there a way to instead make tramp leave the connection open until I close

tramp ($Id: tramp.el,v 2.12 2001/03/26 05:03:20 daniel Exp $); connection-handling annoyance

2001-04-09 Thread Tom_Roche
Enter your bug report in this message, including as much detail as you possibly can about the problem, what you did to cause it and what the local and remote machines are. If you can give a simple set of instructions to make this bug happen reliably, please include those. Thank you for helping

Re: keep connection open?

2001-04-09 Thread Tom_Roche
On Mon, 09 Apr 2001, Tom Roche wrote: It appears that tramp closes its ssh connection to a given host when the last buffer connected with that host is killed. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09 Apr 2001 21:52:09 +0200 I think Tramp never closes connections. I agree: looking back, with what I know now, I

avoid quota-whacking! was: Kerb and ssh-agent

2001-04-07 Thread Tom_Roche
John Borwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri, 6 Apr 2001 16:52:10 -0400 I'd been struggling with setting up everything via the "scp" protocol, fiddling with the sshd_config, etc. Finally I decided to just go with the "sm" (ssh mime-encoded) protocol that's all I had to do! Yep, it worked for me until

Kerberos, SSH1, OpenSSH

2001-04-06 Thread Tom_Roche
I notice there's a new O'Reilly book at http://www.snailbook.com/ with a sample chapter at http://www.unixreview.com/books/SSH_ch11.pdf Interesting stuff, esp for those who must daily interact with Kerberized hosts: 11.4.2. Using Kerberos with SSH Among other things, this says Note that

cygwin sftp

2001-04-04 Thread Tom_Roche
Stephen Leake [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04 Apr 2001 16:17:33 The cygwin tools now have an "sftp" program, which apparently is command-line compatible with ftp, but uses ssh under the hood. I have not yet tried it, but it looks like it should work with ange-ftp. Perhaps you could explore sftp as part

tramp ($Id: tramp.el,v 2.12 2001/03/26 05:03:20 daniel Exp $); windows-ify file copying from dired?

2001-04-03 Thread Tom_Roche
--bug report follows this line-- Emacs : GNU Emacs 20.7.1 (i386-*-nt5.0.2195) of Tue Jun 13 2000 on buffy Package: tramp ($Id: tramp.el,v 2.12 2001/03/26 05:03:20 daniel Exp $) current state: == (setq tramp-ls-command nil tramp-test-groks-nt nil tramp-file-exists-command nil

Re: windows-ify file copying from dired?

2001-04-03 Thread Tom_Roche
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue, 03 Apr 2001 18:04:11 -0400 However, M-x copy-file, under the same circumstances, works! No it doesn't: copy-file gives a different default location. When I give it a tramp path followed by a windows path, copy-file chokes in the same way. HTH, [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Cygwin and tramp

2001-03-30 Thread Tom_Roche
"Gerrit Niestijl" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri, 30 Mar 2001 12:57:24 +0200 As I posted earlier to the ntemacs list, I am using tramp with cygwin ssh/scp succesfully for some time now. Below are some details about the setup (again). Im am sorry I haven't found the time to write clear instructions.

ssh.el, was: tramp on NT emacs

2001-03-29 Thread Tom_Roche
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark A. Hershberger) 29 Mar 2001 18:08:14 -0600 (I have a copy [of ssh.el] with patches that supports dir-tracking via tramp @ http://mah.everybody.org/hacks/ssh.el.txt. Is ssh.el still being maintained? The newest version I've seen is at

Using pscp with TRAMP

2001-03-29 Thread Tom_Roche
Dunno why I didn't try this earlier, but in fact pscp (the PuTTY scp client) will also work with TRAMP on win32. I have updated http://www4.ncsu.edu/~tlroche/plinkTramp.html to include instructions for its configuration and use. Note that this still requires one to be able to successfully use

Re: Using pscp with TRAMP

2001-03-29 Thread Tom_Roche
Suggested docfix: http://ls6-www.informatik.uni-dortmund.de/~grossjoh/emacs/tramp.html #External%20transfer%20methods If you want to use an external transfer method you must be able to execute the transfer utility to copy files to and from the remote machine without any interaction. This

tramp with cygwin ssh, was: using emacs and SSH

2001-03-28 Thread Tom_Roche
Lemme first make one suggestion to everyone: IMHO the best place to post for help with tramp issues is the tramp list [EMAIL PROTECTED] archived at http://www.mail-archive.com/emacs-rcp@ls6.cs.uni-dortmund.de/ Also, reading the info helps :-) The version that comes with your tramp is probably

cygwin ssh instructions?

2001-03-28 Thread Tom_Roche
Does anyone have instructions for using cygwin ssh? esp with emacs? and tramp? Unfortunately I do not. HTH, [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: using emacs and SSH

2001-03-27 Thread Tom_Roche
I use TRAMP to remotely edit, compile, and version-control code on SSH-access-only boxes. For general information about TRAMP, see http://ls6-www.informatik.uni-dortmund.de/~grossjoh/emacs/tramp.html For instructions on installing and configuring TRAMP on win32, see

tramp.texi won't makeinfo-buffer

2001-03-25 Thread Tom_Roche
When I open tramp.texi (CVSed yesterday, tramp-version $Id: tramp.el,v 2.10 2001/03/16 09:24:44 grossjoh Exp $) and try to makeinfo-buffer, I get cd n:/site-lisp/tramp/texi/ makeinfo --fill-column=70 n:/site-lisp/tramp/texi/tramp.texi n:/site-lisp/tramp/texi/tramp.texi:485: warning: `.' or

Re: .sh_history problem

2001-03-22 Thread Tom_Roche
Ted Stern [EMAIL PROTECTED] 21 Mar 2001 14:25:44 -0800 Here's another thing to try in .kshrc: slightly edited if [ -f $HOME/.sh_history ] ; then /bin/rm $HOME/.sh_history fi if [ "${HISTFILE-unset}" != "unset" ] ; then unset HISTFILE fi if [ "${HISTSIZE-unset}" != "unset" ] ; then

Re: .sh_history problem

2001-03-21 Thread Tom_Roche
Ted Stern [EMAIL PROTECTED] 21 Mar 2001 09:48:53 -0800 For ksh problems with .sh_histfile, it might be advisable to modify the .ksh startup file. For example, one could add to ~/.profile the lines ENV=$HOME/.kshrc; export ENV unset HISTFILE unset HISTSIZE

Re: .sh_history problem

2001-03-20 Thread Tom_Roche
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 19 Mar 2001 20:52:13 +0100 What happens when you do it the second time? Unfortunately, .sh_history doesn't stay dead: /ncsu/tlroche ksh $ unset HISTSIZE $ unset HISTFILE $ foo ksh: foo: not found $ bar ksh: bar: not found $ ls -alt | head total 11109 -rw---

Re: .sh_history problem

2001-03-19 Thread Tom_Roche
On Sun, 18 Mar 2001, Tom Roche wrote: Truly annoying. What part of "no history" doesn't it understand ?-) Or, now that I think of it ... could this actually be something AFS is doing (given that 'afs' is part of the filename)? [EMAIL PROTECTED] 19 Mar 2001 11:57:42 +0100 I don't know AFS.

Re: convince NTemacs it _can_ symlink

2001-03-19 Thread Tom_Roche
I wrote: [when in tramp, and] I try to symlink, NTemacs becomes confused: Symbol's function definition is void: make-symbolic-link presumably because it knows it can't do this ... on _its_ filesystem. On 18 Mar 2001, Andrew Innes wrote: It probably makes sense for all file functions that

Re: .sh_history problem

2001-03-19 Thread Tom_Roche
On Mon, 19 Mar 2001, Tom Roche wrote: So, although 'unset' doesn't make .sh_history, or its successor, go away upon _utterance_, it does appear to make it go away upon _exit_-- which IIRC is better than what we had, and mostly solves the problem of the ever-growing .sh_history (except for

Re: .sh_history problem

2001-03-18 Thread Tom_Roche
On Sat, 17 Mar 2001, Tom Roche wrote: How do I "[set ksh envvars] from within Tramp"? snip Must I hack tramp.el? [EMAIL PROTECTED] 18 Mar 2001 18:12:37 +0100 Well, of course you can hack tramp.el. But you can also try it out outside of Tramp, by logging in to the remote host, starting ksh

Re: convince NTemacs it _can_ symlink

2001-03-18 Thread Tom_Roche
On Mon, 05 Mar 2001 12:10:56 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: when I try to symlink [under tramp], NTemacs becomes confused: Symbol's function definition is void: make-symbolic-link Andrew Innes [EMAIL PROTECTED] 18 Mar 2001 15:30:12 + As a work-around, you can define `make-symbolic-link'

tramp2 on GNU!

2001-03-18 Thread Tom_Roche
check in by daniel: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 05:52:23 +0100 (MET) Emacs support mega-patch. TRAMP2 now byte-compiles successfully on Emacs 20.7.2 under Linux. This makes testing under GNU Emacs as well as XEmacs possible. Indeed: I merely * updated my tramp from CVS (after stashing 2.9 :-) * added

TRAMP, uid, VC

2001-03-17 Thread Tom_Roche
On Fri, 16 Mar 2001, Tom Roche wrote: If I open a CVSed file in tramp, e.g. (broken for mail) /r@t:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/local/dev/tlroche/webassign/ ScoreAnalysis.pm I see (CPerl CVS:17061:1.12 Abbrev) [EMAIL PROTECTED] 17 Mar 2001 13:32:21 +0100 17061 is your user id on the remote host?

remote VC, profiles

2001-03-17 Thread Tom_Roche
On Fri, 16 Mar 2001, Tom Roche wrote: I get *vc-diff* /bin/ksh: cvs: not found How do I make ksh find cvs? Also, just wondering: why ksh? (A quick hand-waving explanation will probably suffice :-) [EMAIL PROTECTED] 17 Mar 2001 13:32:21 +0100 Just add directories to tramp-remote-path and

.sh_history problem

2001-03-17 Thread Tom_Roche
Just now I was working in TRAMP (after corresponding about it--I seem to be trapped in a tramp-centric universe :-) when I was unable to save changes to a file. After thrashing about for a bit, I found * I was over quota for filespace on the device * ... due to /ncsu/tlroche ls -alFS

Re: .sh_history problem

2001-03-17 Thread Tom_Roche
On Sat, 17 Mar 2001, Tom Roche wrote: * is tramp writing to this file? [EMAIL PROTECTED] 17 Mar 2001 21:18:10 +0100 No, Tramp itself is not writing to the file, but I think the shell is. If you read the documentation for ksh and tell me how to turn off the history, I'll put that code in

Re: .sh_history problem

2001-03-17 Thread Tom_Roche
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 18 Mar 2001 00:11:04 +0100 Excuse me if this is very stupid, but why don't you just read the man page of _your_ ksh? My impression is, and I have heard from folks who should know, that documentation on local (AFSspace, anyway) packages is often way downlevel (and is sometimes

compilation, version control, was: cleaner tramp-aware bindings

2001-03-16 Thread Tom_Roche
"Stefan Monnier" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 16 Mar 2001 09:50:19 -0500 (define-key global-map "\M-`" (lambda () "Use `tramp-compile' if in a tramp buffer, `compile' otherwise." (interactive) (call-interactively (if (tramp-tramp-file-p buffer-file-name)

win32 setup

2001-03-16 Thread Tom_Roche
I've included the new remote-compilation stuff in my "Extending Emacs on Win32 with Plink and TRAMP" page http://www4.ncsu.edu/~tlroche/plinkTramp.html Your questions, comments, complaints, corrections, or suggestions are appreciated. I'd especially appreciate it if someone could try setting

tramp ($Id: tramp.el,v 2.9 2001/03/14 21:46:41 grossjoh Exp $); dired can't find ~ in AFS

2001-03-16 Thread Tom_Roche
Enter your bug report in this message, including as much detail as you possibly can about the problem, what you did to cause it and what the local and remote machines are. If you can give a simple set of instructions to make this bug happen reliably, please include those. Much of the

problem with remote version control

2001-03-16 Thread Tom_Roche
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 16 Mar 2001 23:23:26 +0100 Well, for remote compilation you now have M-x tramp-compile RET, no? Indeed, and it is referenced at http://www4.ncsu.edu/~tlroche/plinkTramp.html On Fri, 16 Mar 2001, Tom Roche wrote: now that remote compilation works, next on my agenda is remote

tramp-2.9

2001-03-15 Thread Tom_Roche
An item, then two successes, then a question, then two minor problems, then tramp-bug stuff: + pscp and cvs are now happy. Dunno why: I came back from vacation, tried again, and they each both work. Maybe they needed a vacation from me :-) So I cvs'ed latest (tramp-2.9) as of ~1330 EST

Re: tramp-aware bindings

2001-03-15 Thread Tom_Roche
On Thu, 15 Mar 2001, Tom Roche wrote: I've done several variations on (define-key global-map "\M-`" (lambda (optional arg) (if (tramp-tramp-file-p buffer-file-name) 'tramp-compile 'quote compile ) ) ) none of which work: the current error is Wrong type

tramp-2.9 info

2001-03-15 Thread Tom_Roche
On Thu, 15 Mar 2001, Tom Roche wrote: - tramp.info made via makeinfo-buffer shows no bold in body. E.g. To obtain the latest development version of TRAMP from CVS (see `cvs(1)'), you may use the following sequence of commands (text you enter is in bold): ] *cd ~/lisp* Instead of

tramp-aware bindings

2001-03-15 Thread Tom_Roche
On Thu, 15 Mar 2001, Tom Roche wrote: ? How to make a key binding tramp-aware? Do I need to? [EMAIL PROTECTED] 15 Mar 2001 23:21:06 +0100 Oh. Well, write a little function which checks whether the current file is a tramp file and then calls either compile or tramp-compile... The magic

Re: tramp-aware bindings

2001-03-15 Thread Tom_Roche
Daniel Pittman [EMAIL PROTECTED] 16 Mar 2001 11:18:38 +1100 You want: (define-key global-map "\M-`" (lambda (optional arg) (interactive) (if (tramp-tramp-file-p buffer-file-name) 'tramp-compile 'compile ) ) ) Umm ... I tried that. Is there a typo?

addendum to tramp-aware bindings

2001-03-15 Thread Tom_Roche
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu, 15 Mar 2001 21:16:12 -0500 So I delete tramp-util.elc (hoping to avoid bytecode), start another emacs with -debug-init, eval it again, and run it again: I get (broken for mail) *Backtrace* Signaling: (wrong-number-of-arguments #[(command) "^H^Q ?\"ˆ \"‡" [command

Re: tramp-aware bindings

2001-03-15 Thread Tom_Roche
Daniel Pittman [EMAIL PROTECTED] 16 Mar 2001 11:18:38 +1100 So, rather than doing (if ... 'tramp-compile 'compile), run the command you want, so: (if ... (tramp-compile) (compile)) On Thu, 15 Mar 2001, Tom Roche wrote: I get noise in *Messages* (broken for mail): Daniel Pittman [EMAIL

found a clue! was: tramp-aware bindings

2001-03-15 Thread Tom_Roche
Daniel Pittman [EMAIL PROTECTED] 16 Mar 2001 13:47:29 +1100 So, you need to pass arg from your lambda to `compile'. :) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu, 15 Mar 2001 22:19:32 -0500 Hey, no linenoise! But the signature of compile is (defun compile (command) snip So how to get 'command to them?

cleaner tramp-aware bindings

2001-03-15 Thread Tom_Roche
Daniel Pittman [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6 Mar 2001 14:50:35 +1100 Try this for size, it /should/ work (with your key-binging, not mine :): (define-key global-map [(control f10)] (lambda (rest args) I _knew_ there was a better way than optional ... (interactive)

pscp error? was: kludging remote compilation

2001-03-09 Thread Tom_Roche
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 09 Mar 2001 22:48:26 +0100 I have now added tramp-util.el to the devel version, and I'll let you be the guinea pig to try it out. More later, but perhaps someone could advise me about a mechanical detail: does the following sound like a bug in 'pscp', or am I doing something

aliases? was: names

2001-03-09 Thread Tom_Roche
Presuming TRAMP2 is still wish-list-able, could I suggest what might be a feature? I work with several servers, more than a few of which have ungodly long user/host/paths: e.g. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/local/dev/tlroche/webassign/v4 PuTTY, like many FTPs, has a nice feature whereby one can save the

Re: kludging remote compilation

2001-03-07 Thread Tom_Roche
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 06 Mar 2001 22:56:56 +0100 I thought that Tramp would do shell-command automagically. On Tue, 06 Mar 2001, Tom Roche wrote: Wish _I'd_ thought of that. What I now think is snip * it would be quite nice to have (kludged or otherwise :-) a tramp-compile that would -

Re: compiling remote files?

2001-03-07 Thread Tom_Roche
List folk: this is the impromptu skeleton of the NT FAQ item I intend to write. If you see anything wrong, or believe something's missing, or have better wording, please lemme know. Rodney Sparapani [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed, 07 Mar 2001 15:58:39 -0600 What did you have to do to get

kludging remote compilation

2001-03-06 Thread Tom_Roche
On Mon, 05 Mar 2001, Tom Roche wrote: However, although CPerl seems happy to edit remote files without problem, I can't seem to compile them. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06 Mar 2001 13:19:19 +0100 That's because the function compile-internal uses start-process to start the compilation, and

start-process

2001-03-06 Thread Tom_Roche
Kai Grojohann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have suggested a remedy once before, and the end result was that RMS suggested to create a new filename handler called `process-file'. Then Tramp can implement this file operation, too, and then `compile-internal' can be rewritten to use the function

Re: start-process

2001-03-06 Thread Tom_Roche
"Stefan Monnier" 06 Mar 2001 15:15:53 -0500 it might be possible to convince the maintainers that making `start-process' (and `call-process') file-operations is all that's needed. Just wondering (impatiently :-): how hard should this be to do? [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue, 06 Mar 2001 15:31:54

Re: kludging remote compilation

2001-03-06 Thread Tom_Roche
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 06 Mar 2001 22:14:14 +0100 Oh, you want to *kluge* it. I don't _want_ to kludge it :-) I want get work done, for which I want to compile files in tramp buffers. If there's a clean, pretty way to do this, I would be delighted to use it. Otherwise, Try M-!, enter the shell

convince NTemacs it _can_ symlink

2001-03-05 Thread Tom_Roche
I now have TRAMP http://ls6-www.informatik.uni-dortmund.de/~grossjoh/emacs/tramp.html working on a vanilla 20.7.1 on w2k using plink http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/ Key the brass band. Allow a moment to savor./ Among the thrills I now experience is running dired on my

tramp ($Id: tramp.el,v 2.0.2.1 2001/02/28 18:10:31 grossjoh Exp $); can't open perl script

2001-03-05 Thread Tom_Roche
Now that I've got tramp working, I wanna use it with cperl-mode. However, although CPerl seems happy to edit remote files without problem, I can't seem to compile them. E.g. I can C-x C-f (broken for mail) /r@t:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: /local/dev/tlroche/drivers/driveAnalysis.pl but, if while within

Re: tramp ($Id: tramp.el,v 2.0.2.1 2001/02/28 18:10:31 grossjoh Exp $); can't open perl script

2001-03-05 Thread Tom_Roche
OK, so obviously this isn't a tramp-bug. I'm typing faster than the speed of thought :-) Anyway, if any of the great minds on the list have solved this problem, or are interested, I'd like to know. TIA, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: compiling remote files? Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 18:46:39 -0500

transparent secure remote compilation in Emacs

2001-03-05 Thread Tom_Roche
Mon 2001-03-05 [EMAIL PROTECTED] gnu.emacs.help Has anyone devised a way to make M-x compile work with remote files? [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06 Mar 2001 02:29:35 +0200 mode-compile.el announces that in its docs. So I downloaded http://www.tls.cena.fr/~boubaker/distrib/mode-compile.el You've

Bemühen erfolgreich!

2001-03-04 Thread Tom_Roche
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 04 Mar 2001 12:34:20 +0100 Tramp is quite anal about having all kinds of method parameters. Don't let any of them default to anything. Specify them all. So just add (tramp-rcp-args nil) into the method spec, and you should be all set. Look at the other methods so you're sure

tramp questions and suggestions

2001-03-04 Thread Tom_Roche
* Time to update tramp at the the Ohio State Emacs Lisp Archive? I note http://neutral.verbum.org/search?q=tramparchive=incoming Search Request: tramp Matches 0-1 in the Incoming archive: tramp-1.393.tar.gz which is a link. * What, if any, documentation of my travails should be

transfer-mode optimization, was: loads but won't save?

2001-03-04 Thread Tom_Roche
On 04 Mar 2001, Kai Grojohann wrote: And this reminds me of the todo item which was sent to me by Michael Kifer: use out of band transfer for large files and inline transfer for small files. Daniel Pittman [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05 Mar 2001 10:13:16 +1100 Worth thinking about... which I will do.

loads but won't save? was: plink and tramp-2.0.2.1: more progress

2001-03-03 Thread Tom_Roche
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 03 Mar 2001 12:27:10 +0100 Your method specifies neither encoding/decoding command/function, nor rcp-command. You must specify exactly one of those. Doh! And you had mentioned that earlier. Anyway, I now have in _emacs (setq tramp-methods (append (list '("t" ;

Re: plink and tramp-2.0.2.1: more progress

2001-03-02 Thread Tom_Roche
On Thu, 01 Mar 2001, Tom Roche wrote: *debug tramp/t [EMAIL PROTECTED]* # Opening connection for [EMAIL PROTECTED] using t... # Waiting 60s for shell or passwd prompt from ssh.ncsu.edu You have 118 messages (596101 bytes) on uni00map.unity.ncsu.edu Volume Name Quota

Fwd: plink-ssh

2001-03-02 Thread Tom_Roche
BTW, this is the plink-ssh of which I spoke: connect using plink in a telnet-mode buffer. HTH, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Original Message Subject: plink-ssh, was: plink in *shell* Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 15:28:51 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Bill

plink in *shell*

2001-03-01 Thread Tom_Roche
I'm running GNU Emacs 20.7.1 (i386-*-nt5.0.2195) using cmdproxy. I'd like to use 'plink' as an SSH client in *shell* buffers. (And ultimately with TRAMP, but that's another problem.) plink is part of PuTTY, from which I got the following suggestion: Owen Dunn [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu, 01 Mar 2001

Re: putty, tramp, NtEmacs...

2001-03-01 Thread Tom_Roche
"Gerrit Niestijl" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed, 28 Feb 2001 10:02:49 +0100 I am using NTEmacs with Tramp succesfully using the Cygwin version of ssh and scp. I can edit files on remote Linux servers without providing passwords using the following syntax:

plink and tramp: progress!

2001-03-01 Thread Tom_Roche
Re: putty, tramp, NtEmacs... Bill Pringlemeir [EMAIL PROTECTED] 28 Feb 2001 16:22:57 Here is some code that I added to my .emacs, [begin] ;; Tramp file processing. (require 'tramp) (setq tramp-methods (cons '("putty" (tramp-connection-function

Re: plink and tramp-2.0.2.1: more progress

2001-03-01 Thread Tom_Roche
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu, 01 Mar 2001 19:41:44 -0500 *debug tramp/t [EMAIL PROTECTED]* (minus banner, broken for mail) # Opening connection for [EMAIL PROTECTED] using t... # Waiting 60s for shell or passwd prompt from ssh.ncsu.edu You have 118 messages (596101 bytes) on uni00map.unity.ncsu.edu

documenting tramp-methods, was: Putty compatibility

2001-03-01 Thread Tom_Roche
On Thu, 01 Mar 2001, Tom Roche wrote: *Backtrace* (broken for mail) Signaling: (error "Out of band method `t' not applicable for remote shell asking for a password") So why does tramp think I'm using an out-of-band method? Because the function's name is different? [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01

plink and tramp-2.0.2.1: more progress

2001-03-01 Thread Tom_Roche
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 02 Mar 2001 00:42:31 +0100 the stable version is on the ftp server. OK, got that, put it in tramp-2.0.2.1-HACKED, updated _emacs, and hacked tramp::HACKED-tramp-open-connection-rsh (which is called by my tramp-methods). I also commented out 'set prompt' in .mycshrc and

doc bug in tramp-open-connection-rsh?

2001-02-28 Thread Tom_Roche
The docstring for tramp-open-connection-rsh for tramp-1.449 says (in part) "Open a connection using an rsh METHOD. This starts the command `rsh HOST -l USER'[*], then waits for a remote password or shell prompt. If a password prompt is seen, the user is queried for a password, this

Re: Putty compatibility

2001-02-28 Thread Tom_Roche
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 28 Feb 2001 15:18:41 +0100 The right command for putty is plink -ssh username@hostname But the current tramp-open-connection-rsh code wants to do plink -ssh hostname -l username Clearly, this is bad. At least, it's not general. (To assume standards-compliance

parameterize wait time?

2001-02-28 Thread Tom_Roche
Dunno if this is already implemented, but it's apparently not done in tramp-1.449 (I see a lotta 60s in tramp.el): IMHO it would be good to parameterize the wait time (e.g. setq tramp-wait-seconds), so as to expose that to the user. I suppose if one's testing is going well, this is not a

tramp with 'plink -pw'

2001-02-28 Thread Tom_Roche
Bill Pringlemeir [EMAIL PROTECTED] 28 Feb 2001 13:43:25 However, you can use the "-pw secret" option to allow plink to connect. This worked on my NTEmacs 20.7.3. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed, 28 Feb 2001 16:30:10 -0500 And for me on GNU Emacs 20.7.1 (i386-*-nt5.0.2195). I.e. in GNU Emacs 20.7.1

Re: tramp with 'plink -pw'

2001-02-28 Thread Tom_Roche
On Wed, 28 Feb 2001, Tom Roche wrote: One thing I'm wondering: since the error is *Backtrace* Signaling: (error "Couldn't find remote shell or passwd prompt") is there a problem with my shell-prompt-pattern? It's currently set to (setq shell-prompt-pattern "^[^#$%\n]*[#$] *") Daniel

Re: Windows instructions

2000-10-22 Thread Tom_Roche
Password-prompting scp's, such as PuTTY's pscp, do work, but Kevin Falcone [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun, 22 Oct 2000 22:12:17 There is now a program on the development links for putty called pageant which is an okay ssh-agent. You need the development version of putty or pscp, but it works nicely

Pageant?

2000-09-27 Thread Tom_Roche
I've been putting off TRAMP-hacking until there's a win32 ssh-agent: IIRC it was the most likely way to get emacs on w2k to work with Kerberized SSH servers, i.e. pretty much everything I work with @ NCSU. I recently heard about Pageant