Re: [Emc-developers] [Emc-users] question on gcode parsing

2012-01-27 Thread dave
On Fri, 27 Jan 2012 16:53:28 -0800 (PST) "Peter C. Wallace" wrote: > On Fri, 27 Jan 2012, andy pugh wrote: > > > Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2012 21:23:25 + > > From: andy pugh > > Reply-To: EMC developers > > To: EMC developers > > Subject: Re: [Emc-developers] [Emc-users] question on gcode parsin

Re: [Emc-developers] BeagleBoard - Was Fwd: EMC2 Fest/Meeting

2012-01-27 Thread Jon Elson
Kent A. Reed wrote: > I was just hopeful because of your last line "No RTAI so far, but that > might come soon." > Well, Torsten Koschorrek tells me he is STILL working on the port. Must have been WAY harder than he originally thought. I would have expected that the BeagleBoard has such wid

Re: [Emc-developers] what if one needs 2 logic comp?

2012-01-27 Thread Spiderdab
On sab, 2012-01-28 at 02:02 +0100, Spiderdab wrote: > On sab, 2012-01-28 at 00:38 +, andy pugh wrote: > > On 28 January 2012 00:28, Spiderdab <77...@tiscali.it> wrote: > > > Hi, for sure this is a rare case, but i need to loadrt two logic > > > components. > > > > loadrt logic count=2 personal

Re: [Emc-developers] what if one needs 2 logic comp?

2012-01-27 Thread Spiderdab
On sab, 2012-01-28 at 00:38 +, andy pugh wrote: > On 28 January 2012 00:28, Spiderdab <77...@tiscali.it> wrote: > > Hi, for sure this is a rare case, but i need to loadrt two logic > > components. > > loadrt logic count=2 personality=2,7 (or whatever you need to make the > right ones) > Perfe

Re: [Emc-developers] [Emc-users] question on gcode parsing

2012-01-27 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Fri, 27 Jan 2012, andy pugh wrote: > Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2012 21:23:25 + > From: andy pugh > Reply-To: EMC developers > To: EMC developers > Subject: Re: [Emc-developers] [Emc-users] question on gcode parsing > > On 27 January 2012 21:14, Kent A. Reed wrote: >> (the next-generation next-

Re: [Emc-developers] what if one needs 2 logic comp?

2012-01-27 Thread andy pugh
On 28 January 2012 00:28, Spiderdab <77...@tiscali.it> wrote: > Hi, for sure this is a rare case, but i need to loadrt two logic > components. loadrt logic count=2 personality=2,7 (or whatever you need to make the right ones) -- atp The idea that there is no such thing as objective truth is, qui

[Emc-developers] what if one needs 2 logic comp?

2012-01-27 Thread Spiderdab
Hi, for sure this is a rare case, but i need to loadrt two logic components. the problem is that one should be an or4 and the other an and3. so i think i cannot do: loadrt logic count=2, because they have different 'personality'. other than set up the and3 using 2*and2, do i have the possibility t

Re: [Emc-developers] question on gcode parsing

2012-01-27 Thread John Prentice
From: "Kenneth Lerman" >I'd state it as a requirement. The > inter-module interfaces shall be documented and "as simple as possible, > but no simpler." > I think it's worth commenting that in at least one area, the original > EMC did a great job. The one I'm thinking of is the abstraction of the

Re: [Emc-developers] [Emc-users] question on gcode parsing

2012-01-27 Thread andy pugh
On 27 January 2012 21:45, Kenneth Lerman wrote: > That's an implementation detail. I'd state it as a requirement. The > inter-module interfaces shall be documented and "as simple as possible, > but no simpler." I can't claim to understand the technicalities, but I think that mhaberler is thinkin

Re: [Emc-developers] [Emc-users] question on gcode parsing

2012-01-27 Thread Kenneth Lerman
On 1/27/2012 4:23 PM, andy pugh wrote: > On 27 January 2012 21:14, Kent A. Reed wrote: >> (the next-generation next-generation controller?). > The wish-list for that, for me, would include a reversible, > jerk-limited, pause-and-resumable motion system. You've stated the above as requirements. > I

Re: [Emc-developers] [Emc-users] question on gcode parsing

2012-01-27 Thread Kenneth Lerman
Hi Kent, Thanks for setting me straight on that. On the question you raise further down, I think that this would represent a new branch. It would require significant changes to: motion control, interpreter, GUIs. Ken On 1/27/2012 4:14 PM, Kent A. Reed wrote: > On 1/27/2012 8:52 AM, Kenneth Le

Re: [Emc-developers] [Emc-users] question on gcode parsing

2012-01-27 Thread andy pugh
On 27 January 2012 21:14, Kent A. Reed wrote: > (the next-generation next-generation controller?). The wish-list for that, for me, would include a reversible, jerk-limited, pause-and-resumable motion system. I think I would keep most of the rest of it, but the inter-module communications seems ba

Re: [Emc-developers] [Emc-users] question on gcode parsing

2012-01-27 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 1/27/2012 8:52 AM, Kenneth Lerman wrote: > <...> > > All of this stuff needs to be designed in; it can't be patched into the > existing system. > > It's important to remember that the architecture and design of EMC is > ancient in computer years. My guess is that it dates back to the early > da

Re: [Emc-developers] Soft Limit red lines are wrong.

2012-01-27 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 1/27/2012 1:23 PM, andy pugh wrote: > On 27 January 2012 18:17, Spiderdab<77...@tiscali.it> wrote: > >> Well if it's so difficult to retro calculate the possible >> volume-position from the kin module (and it seems like that..), we could >> add a lot-simplified limits-volume. Let's say i want m

Re: [Emc-developers] Soft Limit red lines are wrong.

2012-01-27 Thread EBo
On Fri, 27 Jan 2012 19:17:18 +0100, Spiderdab wrote: > On ven, 2012-01-27 at 17:27 +, andy pugh wrote: >> On 27 January 2012 17:18, Spiderdab <77...@tiscali.it> wrote: >> >> > I personally think this kind of bug are of a main importance, and >> that >> > also should be simple to solve >> >> I

Re: [Emc-developers] Soft Limit red lines are wrong.

2012-01-27 Thread andy pugh
On 27 January 2012 18:17, Spiderdab <77...@tiscali.it> wrote: > Well if it's so difficult to retro calculate the possible > volume-position from the kin module (and it seems like that..), we could > add a lot-simplified limits-volume. Let's say i want my machine to warn > when x,y,z position excee

Re: [Emc-developers] Soft Limit red lines are wrong.

2012-01-27 Thread Spiderdab
On ven, 2012-01-27 at 17:27 +, andy pugh wrote: > On 27 January 2012 17:18, Spiderdab <77...@tiscali.it> wrote: > > > I personally think this kind of bug are of a main importance, and that > > also should be simple to solve > > I am not sure it is, in the general case.. > > Working out the b

Re: [Emc-developers] Soft Limit red lines are wrong.

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Re: [Emc-developers] Soft Limit red lines are wrong.

2012-01-27 Thread Thomas Powderly
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Re: [Emc-developers] Soft Limit red lines are wrong.

2012-01-27 Thread Thomas Powderly
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Re: [Emc-developers] Soft Limit red lines are wrong.

2012-01-27 Thread andy pugh
On 27 January 2012 17:18, Spiderdab <77...@tiscali.it> wrote: > I personally think this kind of bug are of a main importance, and that > also should be simple to solve I am not sure it is, in the general case.. Working out the boundary of the space that a non-trivial mechanism can reach while st

[Emc-developers] Soft Limit red lines are wrong.

2012-01-27 Thread Spiderdab
Hi gentle people, I've realized that there are some issues on soft limits, when using not-trivial kinematics. I'm using now the JA3 branch, but i remember i had the same results with 2.4.x ...if somebody wants to confirm is welcome. i.e. into axis, those limits, which are drawn like red dotted l

Re: [Emc-developers] [Emc-users] question on gcode parsing

2012-01-27 Thread Kenneth Lerman
On 1/26/2012 5:36 PM, Michael Haberler wrote: . Lots of good stuff snipped. > re jog forwards/backwards: > I'd be interested to hear your ideas in more detail. It comes up regularly in > different shapes or forms, and it occurs to me that would need motion > support. How can the