[Emc-developers] [DISCUSS] Proposal: Drop Hardy support

2013-08-17 Thread Schooner
Continuing to support Ubuntu 8.04 is fool_hardy_, and I propose we stop. No pun intended I assume! - AFAICT, there is only a very small handful of users still running LinuxCNC on Hardy. I'd wager that those users are quite conservative, and aren't interested in new features for LinuxCNC

Re: [Emc-developers] [DISCUSS] Proposal: Drop Hardy support

2013-08-17 Thread Michael Haberler
Am 17.08.2013 um 19:42 schrieb Schooner schoone...@tiscali.co.uk: Continuing to support Ubuntu 8.04 is fool_hardy_, and I propose we stop. No pun intended I assume! - AFAICT, there is only a very small handful of users still running LinuxCNC on Hardy. I'd wager that those users are

Re: [Emc-developers] [DISCUSS] Proposal: Drop Hardy support

2013-08-17 Thread Moses McKnight
I would have to agree, that hardy support should not be dropped. We are dealing with machine controllers here, not merely consumer PC's that *have* to have (or so people seem to think) the latest everything every 6 months or sooner. It makes sense to me to not force people running good stable

Re: [Emc-developers] [DISCUSS] Proposal: Drop Hardy support

2013-08-17 Thread Chris Morley
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2013 11:31:54 -0500 From: j...@zultron.com To: emc-developers@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Emc-developers] [DISCUSS] Proposal: Drop Hardy support Hi list, Continuing to support Ubuntu 8.04 is foolhardy, and I propose we stop. Our policy has been up to now

Re: [Emc-developers] [DISCUSS] Proposal: Drop Hardy support

2013-08-17 Thread Chris Morley
It makes sense to me to not force people running good stable systems on older hardware to have to update the whole OS - which might not run as well or have as good of latency etc - just to get bugfixes and newer features. FWIW, My router table is running Hardy even though I put

Re: [Emc-developers] [DISCUSS] Proposal: Drop Hardy support

2013-08-17 Thread Eric Keller
On Sat, Aug 17, 2013 at 2:27 PM, Chris Morley chrisinnana...@hotmail.com wrote: IMHO, this becomes somewhat of an regrettable but no-brainer decision. unless we want to stop development of Linuxcnc... unless we have extra developers that will back port capabilities to 2.5... Chris M In

Re: [Emc-developers] [DISCUSS] Proposal: Drop Hardy support

2013-08-17 Thread Charles Steinkuehler
On 8/17/2013 12:00 PM, Michael Haberler wrote: Unfortunately this is not an option which can be done with anywhere realistic effort. I do not deny this for fun, but it is an unreasonable request on our time. It will both disable userland threads (PCI support uses them), and make absurd

Re: [Emc-developers] [DISCUSS] Proposal: Drop Hardy support

2013-08-17 Thread Charles Steinkuehler
On 8/17/2013 2:59 PM, andy pugh wrote: On 17 August 2013 18:42, Schooner schoone...@tiscali.co.uk wrote: I have no interest in running Ubuntu 8.04, it is rubbish, but I have P4 workshop machines with very low latency that will not even load the 10.04 CD The other machine has a special x86

Re: [Emc-developers] [DISCUSS] Proposal: Drop Hardy support

2013-08-17 Thread Dave
On 8/17/2013 3:59 PM, andy pugh wrote: On 17 August 2013 18:42, Schoonerschoone...@tiscali.co.uk wrote: I have no interest in running Ubuntu 8.04, it is rubbish, but I have P4 workshop machines with very low latency that will not even load the 10.04 CD The other machine has a special

Re: [Emc-developers] [DISCUSS] Proposal: Drop Hardy support

2013-08-17 Thread EBo
On Aug 17 2013 11:00 AM, Michael Haberler wrote: Am 17.08.2013 um 19:42 schrieb Schooner schoone...@tiscali.co.uk: All I would ask is that whatever parts of the unified-build-candidate-1 rely upon libraries that are not available to 8.04, can be de-selectable from configure. Unfortunately

[Emc-developers] [DISCUSS] Proposal: Drop Hardy support

2013-08-16 Thread John Morris
Hi list, Continuing to support Ubuntu 8.04 is foolhardy, and I propose we stop. - Hardy desktop support ended May 2011; server support ended May 2013. Support for Lucid desktops ended May 2013 (servers two years later). [1] This is the upstream distro vendor's LTS policy, and the most

Re: [Emc-developers] [DISCUSS] Proposal: Drop Hardy support

2013-08-16 Thread Chris Radek
On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 11:31:54AM -0500, John Morris wrote: Hi list, Continuing to support Ubuntu 8.04 is foolhardy, and I propose we stop. I'd support the idea of dropping hardy builds for 2.6 and master. - Hardy desktop support ended May 2011; server support ended May 2013. Support for