RE: Intrinsically safe equipment

2000-11-16 Thread Massey, Doug C.
It would seem that this is one issue of signiicant difference between UL913 and ATEX - UL913 recommends constructing a portable device out of a non sparking material such as plastic or brass (clause 14.1). Here UL is addressing a valid concern about the risk of ignition caused by the unit

Re:RE2: Speed Measuring Devices

2000-11-16 Thread brian_kunde
I have heard of several people fighting a ticket with claims of the radar gun not working or being used right. In all cases they lost (all people I know). I wish you luck and please let us know how it turned out. Looking at it from their side, if a Judge ruled that the radar (or laser) guns

Re: FW: EPA Hazardous Materials Lithium Batteries disposal

2000-11-16 Thread rarndt
In support of Doug's comments, check this out I wonder what kind of disposal statements are with these batteries? I bet you they are revising this now :) http:www.support.dell.com/battery/ Regards, Regan Arndt Sr. Engineer TUV Rheinland of North America, Inc.

Re: safe voltage limits for cattle ( cows horses etc)

2000-11-16 Thread Nick Rouse
Chris Maxwell wrote There is no such thing as the Bovine/Equine Equipotential Directive. No, there isn't, but the Low Voltage Directive (73/23/EEC) in its principle protection requirements in Article 2 says:- The member states shall take all appropriate measures to ensure that electrical

RE: ITE Emissions above 1 GHz

2000-11-16 Thread Dick Grobner
Short range device? Look at ETSI 300-683, EMC Std for Short Range Devices - operating freq. 9kHz to 25GHz. Chapter 8 deals with emissions. Hope this helps! -Original Message- From: wo...@sensormatic.com [mailto:wo...@sensormatic.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2000 3:10 PM To:

RE: safe voltage limits for cattle ( cows horses etc)

2000-11-16 Thread Maxwell, Chris
All, There is no such thing as the Bovine/Equine Equipotential Directive. However, all this talk about Stray Voltage is very much on the minds of farmers. I replied to Gert offline on this subject because I thought nobody else had any interest. But the list of serious and not-so-serious

Intrinsically safe equipment

2000-11-16 Thread Massey, Doug C.
Hello group - I'm looking for help regarding the safety of equipment for use in hazardous locations, especially intrisically safe systems. Specifically, I have questions regarding clause 7.3.2 of standard EN 50014:1997, concerning electrostatic charges of enclosures of plastic materials. If

RE: UL rec. needed on custom transformer ???

2000-11-16 Thread Dick Grobner
I would like to add that I (my employer) also have used Tania's #1 suggestion with regards to a similar device. Has worked out well over the past years. Responsibility of compliance stays within the manufacturer's facility and not ours! -Original Message- From: Gary McInturff

FW: EPA Hazardous Materials Lithium Batteries disposal

2000-11-16 Thread Massey, Doug C.
Hi Jeffrey: As far as the EPA is concerned, Li-ion batteries are not considered as hazardous material. Remember, the EPA is NOT concerned with the safety of your customer, only the effects on the environment. The Battery Management Act is Public Law 104-142, 104th Congress, and there is an EPA

Re: Speed Measuring Devices

2000-11-16 Thread Ralph Cameron
Peter: I acted as a professional witness in a similar claim that clocked a neighbour doing 110 in an 80 Km zone. The neibour lost. I attempted to prove there was the possibility of EMI from a local 50Kw broadcast transmitter which was less than 1/4 mile away. Since the reading taken is a gated

1 - 10 GHz Reference Source

2000-11-16 Thread Wolak, Marvin
A few months ago, I posted a design for a reference source which emitted harmonics of 250 MHz from 1 to 10 GHz. Since then I have received inquiries as to whether it will be made commercially available. Unfortunately, plans to do so have not materialized. While the description given should

Spurious Emissions above 1 GHz

2000-11-16 Thread WOODS
I am going to ask my previous question in a different (and, hopefully, improved) way. Assume I have an ITE device that is an unintentional radiator (i.e., it is not a transmitter). Also assume the device has spurious emissions above 1 GHz that may not be insignificant. In order to comply with the

RE: Speed Measuring Devices

2000-11-16 Thread Bailey, Jeff
Hi Peter, I am by no means an expert on this subject but I believe they use a tuning fork to calibrate the standard radar guns (the ones based on Doppler shift) so you may have asked to see the cal cert for the tuning fork. I think the police usually calibrate there standard guns daily and if

RE: UL rec. needed on custom transformer ???

2000-11-16 Thread Gary McInturff
Just another vote for Tania's plan outlined below. I have used that in the past, and used path 1. Including I changed potential vendors, when the first guy didn't want to work with me. I paid the investigation fee's, and he paid the follow-up just as Tania described. I'm sure the cost

Re: New Edition of EN 61010-1

2000-11-16 Thread Barry Ma
Paul, Would it be possible for you or anybody else to summarize main points of modifications made in the new edition of IEC61010-1? Regards, Barry -- On Wed, 15 November 2000, O'Shaughnessy, Paul wrote: Dear List, I've received word of an Edition 2 for IEC 61010-1 which was

RE: Speed Measuring Devices

2000-11-16 Thread Andrews, Kurt
Peter, I suggest you check out the National Motorists Association web site at www.motorists.com. In case you have not heard of this organization before they are a National Motorists rights group. They were largely responsible for the repeal of the National 55 mph speed limit. They have lots of

RE: safe voltage limits for cattle ( cows horses etc)

2000-11-16 Thread Price, Ed
-Original Message- From: Art Michael [mailto:amich...@connix.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 9:03 PM To: CE-test - Ing. Gert Gremmen - ce-marking and more... Cc: Emc-Pstc@Ieee. Org Subject: Re: safe voltage limits for cattle ( cows horses etc) Hello Gert, After watching the

Speed Measuring Devices

2000-11-16 Thread Peter Merguerian
Dear All, Yes, I did get a speeding ticket today! I am not sure if I was speeding or not - I do not have my eyes on the speedometer all the time! I asked the policewoman to show me the calibration certificate on her speed measuring gun. She did not know what I was talking about! I inspected the

RE: EPA Hazardous Materials Lithium Batteries disposal

2000-11-16 Thread Peter Merguerian
John, Most of the time these batteries are not replaceable (ie they are soldered to the board) and servicing of the board is not likely in the field. In this case, you need to provide service instructions with the battery statement. Now, if servicing is done at your factory, it simply means that

Re: Vedr.: Re: EN55011 Group 1 and Group 2

2000-11-16 Thread WmFlan
Please be advised that the emission limit figures you quote in your referenced e-mail are _not_ for ClassA Grp2 equipment, but for ClassA, Grp1 equipment. CISPR 11 also specifies 10m distance for this 40dB level. --- This message is from the IEEE EMC

Vedr.: ITE Emissions above 1 GHz

2000-11-16 Thread Helge Knudsen
Hello Richard, Is the device a blue tooth using wireless radiation to communicate with other devices, if yes the device is a subjet for the RTTE directive. You may use the ETSI standards: EN 301 489-3 V1.2.1 (2000-08) Electromagnetic compatibility and Radio spectrum Matters (ERM);

Vedr.: Re: EN55011 Group 1 and Group 2

2000-11-16 Thread Helge Knudsen
Hello Bruce and EMC-ESPC Group, The latest draft on next edition of (EN/) IEC 61800-3 is using the CISPR 11 Class A group 2 limits for power drive systems to be used in Second environment = Industrial use. The radiated emission limits are 40 dB from 30 - 230 MHz and 50 dB from 230 - 1000 MHz

Re: UL rec. needed on custom transformer ???

2000-11-16 Thread Lou Aiken
I am presently faced with a similar concren on a much smaller 50VA switching transformer that I have told the vendor to get construction only recognition (category XORU2). My decision is based on how the UL Engineer describes the transformer in MY report. If he calls out the mfg P/N and maybe

RE: UL rec. needed on custom transformer ???

2000-11-16 Thread Grant, Tania (Tania)
Chris, Per your description, your Current Transformer is in a safety circuit. The fact that normally you do not have high voltages on the primary side does not cut it. (Besides, what is high voltage???) You have several choices (in order of what my preference would be, and money being no

UL rec. needed on custom transformer ???

2000-11-16 Thread Chris Wells
Question - What is the simplest, least expensive, way to define an isolation transformer used in a UL508 (or similar standard) recognized product? The transformer is a custom design made by a magnetics vendor for use in our industrial products. The product is manufactured under a UL