Test Equipment - HALT Chamber For Sale

2006-11-08 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Forwarded to the list for the originator. Please respond off-list directly to the originator. Scott Douglas EMC-PSTC List Admin. To All, We have a piece of Pre-Owned HALT equipment for Sale. A QRS 600V Quasi-Random Vibration and Temperature System which produces Broadband Simultaneous

Re: Worst Case AC Power Conditions

2006-11-08 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Brian, 416 volts is the phase to phase voltage of a 240/416 v three phase distribution circuit. If you had a circuit with a heavy single phase load from phase A to neutral and a light single phase load from phase B to neutral and then opened the neutral, they would be in series with the phase

RE: Worst Case AC Power Conditions

2006-11-08 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Sir Interesting requiremensts. What is the basis of 416V ? Thanks, yet another Brian From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org]On Behalf Of Robert Johnson Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 2:01 PM To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: Re: Worst Case AC Power Conditions It's also useful to

Re: Worst Case AC Power Conditions

2006-11-08 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
It's also useful to know what your product does under non operating conditions. A common fault is open neutral and can happen anywhere from the power cord to across town. This leaves your equipment in series with other unknown loads from phase to phase. This is not something you should expect to

Re: Worst Case AC Power Conditions

2006-11-08 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
In message 006b01c70358$24511f10$150bb...@colorado.linear.com, dated Wed, 8 Nov 2006, David Cuthbert dcuthb...@linear.com writes I can see using a PLL with a long time constant to obtain immunity from line noise. But If the line zero crossing shifts abruptly the SCR fires to one side of zero

Re: Worst Case AC Power Conditions

2006-11-08 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
In message 0ed66cd2c9bd0a459d54fb9119a605672a2...@mailserver.lecotc.com, dated Wed, 8 Nov 2006, Kunde, Brian brian_ku...@lecotc.com writes As you can image, such methods would be susceptible to AC line noise, harmonics, dips, etc.. So we design immunity to such noise into our products, but

RE: Worst Case AC Power Conditions

2006-11-08 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Ted When, many years ago, I organised compliance testing at one of the HP UK sites, I used the same range (although I did use 270V = 250V +10%, at the top end) you mention below - and for the same reasons! Similarly I used to test some equipment from 90V-135V in the days before full-range

RE: Worst Case AC Power Conditions

2006-11-08 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
I can see using a PLL with a long time constant to obtain immunity from line noise. But If the line zero crossing shifts abruptly the SCR fires to one side of zero crossing. An expensive solution is to run your equipment off of a power conditioner that performs the AC-DC-AC function. Pretty

RE: Worst Case AC Power Conditions

2006-11-08 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Ted, Thanks for the reply. The voltage range is not our problem. We do design for the 180-264 voltage range. As I explained in another email reply, our problem is being able to monitor the AC line to know when to fire a furnace control relay. Noise, harmonic distortion and other line conditions

RE: Worst Case AC Power Conditions

2006-11-08 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Dave, Thanks for the reply. I should have explained further. Our equipment is designed to work only in the 230V nominal voltage range at both 50 and 60 hz. Our equipment has furnaces that we must regulate the temperature within a very tight spec. To do this we must fire control relays (SSRs)

RE: Worst Case AC Power Conditions

2006-11-08 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Hello Brian, 180 - 264 V may be a better range to use for voltage. Japan uses 200 V and you will want to be able to run at a 10% undervoltage. The Japanese are more particular about controlling voltage than most countries, so -10% should be acceptable. 180 V will test to -13.4% for the North

RE: Worst Case AC Power Conditions

2006-11-08 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Brian, When I worked for a well-known instrumentation company our universal power line requirement was, if I remember correctly, 80 to 270 VAC. If one could achieve more it was good. I designed one that would reliably operate from 75 to 280 VAC. This covered 100 V Japan on up with margin. Our

RE: Worst Case AC Power Conditions

2006-11-08 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Hello! 3. Can anyone recommend an AC Power Line analyzer that we can just plug-in and it will analyze the AC power conditions at different customer locations? Then we could take the results and program our 5000ix power supply to simulate those conditions in our lab. We have a Fluke 434

China CNCA 2006 Notice No 30

2006-11-08 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
.shtml. A comparison table is attached to this Notice, which can be found at: http://www.cnca.gov.cn/cnca/zwxx/ggxx/images/20061108/622.doc http://www.cnca.gov.cn/cnca/zwxx/ggxx/images/20061108/622.doc. The first column of the comparison table lists the implementation rule applied. The second

RE: Worst Case AC Power Conditions

2006-11-08 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Ted, Thank you for your reply. We sell products worldwide to operate in the 200-260 (230V Norm) voltage range. The information I seek includes help in determining where to draw the line between real world power line conditions that a product should work properly in and the conditions in which

OT: Equipment Wanted

2006-11-08 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Good Morning! My Metrology guy is looking for some equipment. Aside from eBay, does anyone have any leads on: 1. Druck 515 Dual Channel Pressure Controller 2. Tenny TUJR Environmental Chamber or equivalents? Thanks in advance, Ed Price mailto:ed.pr...@cubic.com

RE: Worst Case AC Power Conditions

2006-11-08 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
I want to commend you for an excellent name... -Original Message- From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org]On Behalf Of Kunde, Brian Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 6:15 AM To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: Worst Case AC Power Conditions Greetings, 1. Can anyone

Re: Worst Case AC Power Conditions

2006-11-08 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Hello Brian, Can you provide a little more information for your first question? Into what regions will you sell your product? Worst-case conditions will vary significantly from one part of the world to another. Frequency is very stable in Western Europe and North America, but it can vary

Worst Case AC Power Conditions

2006-11-08 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Greetings, 1. Can anyone provide specifications for a worst case real world AC power line condition in which an apparatus is expected to operate properly in (pass/criteria A)? This would encompass a combination of harmonics, voltage variations, frequency variations, etc.. 2. Also, if anyone