Re: OT: standard component values

2007-03-13 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Precisely. You do not get a normal distribution around the target value, because the closer each resistor is to the target value, the more valuable it becomes as a higher tolerance resistor. > From: Robert Johnson > Organization: ITE Safety > Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 23:33:27 -0500 > To: ted.eck..

Re: OT: standard component values

2007-03-13 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Do I assume this means that a 10% 1K resistor will have values between 900 and 950 ohms or between 1050 and 1100 ohms since the resistors measuring between 950 and 1050 will have been placed in the 5% or better stock? Bob Johnson ted.eck...@apcc.com wrote: > The standard resistor values are sel

RE: comment in UL file

2007-03-13 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Brian - I reread your post and see I may have misunderstood your question. The statement you cited was in a UL report or in a Recognition Card? If in a report, it is utterly useless and is an example of poor report writing. Not quite useless if it was in a Recognition Card, since it would se

RE: comment in UL file

2007-03-13 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
> From: Brian O'Connell > Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 12:48 PM > > In an OBMW2 (UL) file, this comment is attached to one of the > wire types: > > "Additional consideration is needed before its use in > System's thermal aging." > Brian - Looks like it's a catch-all flag. It doesn't appear

ITE Product Certification South, Central America and the Caribbean

2007-03-13 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Good day Does anyone know where I can find Regulatory Information for marketing and importing, Disk Storage Arrays into Central and South American Countries, plus the Caribbean nations? Regards Roger Anderson EqualLogic, Inc. 9 Townsend West Nashua, NH 03063 U.S.A. Phone 1-603-249-

comment in UL file

2007-03-13 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
In an OBMW2 (UL) file, this comment is attached to one of the wire types: "Additional consideration is needed before its use in System's thermal aging." While I am waiting for the usual 5 to 20 day reply time from an agency engineer, could someone please advise if this means anything speacil to i

RE: OT: standard component values

2007-03-13 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
From: John Woodgate [mailto:j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 9:20 AM To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: Re: OT: standard component values In message , dated Tue, 13 Mar 2007, "Tarver, Peter" writes: >Or maybe there's a mathematical reason that hasn't occurred to me, like >some

RE: Creepage on PCB acc to 60950-1

2007-03-13 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Determine installation environment, measure Working V, add I.T. safety standard, stir well. For a SMPS, only the MINIMUM creepage is determined by the rated input V; otherwise is determined by empirical measurements of the WV across a particular dim. "60950:1999" is obsolete. R/S, Brian > -

RE: Creepage on PCB acc to 60950-1

2007-03-13 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
> From: Amund Westin > Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 10:13 AM > Interested in creepage distances > 1) primary to secondary on the PBC > 2) Primary to chassis > 3) Secondary to chassis > 4) Between primary leads on the PCB > > I have the 60950:1999 in front of me and a lot of "creepage > tables" i

Creepage on PCB acc to 60950-1

2007-03-13 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Trying to find out the different required creepage distances on a PCB (it's an AC/DC PSU) where the primary voltage is 230VAC avd secondary voltage is 24VDC. Interested in creepage distances 1) primary to secondary on the PBC 2) Primary to chassis 3) Secondary to chassis 4) Between primary leads o

Re: standard component values

2007-03-13 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
In message , dated Tue, 13 Mar 2007, "Powell, Doug" writes: >Years ago, I even had a program for my HP-67 calculator that would take >a desired value and show me the nearest standard value. There is a small app at: http://www.miscel.dk/MiscEl/miscel.html which does a lot more than that. I'm

Re: OT: standard component values

2007-03-13 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
In message , dated Tue, 13 Mar 2007, "Tarver, Peter" writes: >Or maybe there's a mathematical reason that hasn't occurred to me, like >some arithmetic progression, or even simple phobias or prejudices. Ah, you youngsters! (Strokes long, white beard.) It's based on geometric progression and

RE: standard component values

2007-03-13 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Dave, You are correct. Years ago the Electronic Industries Association (EIA), devised a system and applied to resistors and capacitors. There is a mathematical algorithm based on the E-Series numbers. E6 20% E12 10% E24 5% E48 2% E96 1% E1920.5, 0.25, 0.1% Years ag

RE: standard component values

2007-03-13 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
http://www.pc-control.co.uk/resistor-eia.htm Regards, Chris From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of David Cuthbert Sent: 13 March 2007 15:38 To: 'Tarver, Peter'; 'PSTC 1' Subject: RE: standard component values Quote: "These values were supposed to have been derived f

Re: OT: standard component values

2007-03-13 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Resistor/capacitor values are set up so that the ratio of any two consecutive values is roughly twice the tolerance. This is per any number of standards, all of which may be obsolete: USA Standard C83.2 (likely ANSI now), EIA GEN 102, IEC Publication 63. The actual multipliers are slightly diffe

RE: standard component values

2007-03-13 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Take E12 series - 12 values based on 10^1/12 = 1.212 - you calculate the next value by multiplying the last by this number 1.212 and rounding thus: 1.0 1.0 x 1.212 = 1.2 1.212 x 1.212 = 1.47 = 1.5 1.47 x 1.212 = 1.78 = 1.8 Regards, Chris From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org]

RE: standard component values

2007-03-13 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Peter, My understanding is that each series, E12, E24, etc increments approximately according to the corresponding tolerance such that adjacent values approximately meet at the upper tolerance of one value and the lower tolerance of the next greater value. This is rounded off to the nearest intege

Re: OT: standard component values

2007-03-13 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
The standard resistor values are selected to ensure that any resistor manufactured can be marked as a valid part and sold. For 5% resistors, each value is approximately 10% larger than the previous value. Anything between 9.5 and 10.5 could be called 10 within 5%. Likewise, the 1% resistor value

RE: standard component values

2007-03-13 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Quote: "These values were supposed to have been derived from the mathematical series of equally spacing values logarithmically for each decade." http://www.eng-tips.com/viewthread.cfm?qid=71035&page=5 Dave Cuthbert Linear Technology From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On B

OT: standard component values

2007-03-13 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
An off-topic question that hopefully someone can shed a little light upon. I have wondered for as long as I've been involved in things electrical, why standard component values are what they are. Text books are of no use and I've done more than a few internet searches on this in the last ten year

China CNCA 2007 Notice No. 8

2007-03-13 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
To Those Who are Interested in: The following two standards took effect March 1, 2007. GB 7251.2-2006 ( IEC 60439-2:2000) 低压成套开关设备和控制设备 第2部分:对母线干线系统(母线槽)的特殊要求 Low-voltage switchgear and controlgear assemblies—Part 2:Particular requirements for busbar trunking systems (busways) GB 725

Re: Mercury in Flourescent Lamps

2007-03-13 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
In message , dated Mon, 12 Mar 2007, Richard Pittenger writes: >        I assume that some of you are involved with products such as >back-lit LCD displays which use small fluorescent lamps for >back-lighting. I'm working on a product that will be imported to the >USA and it uses such a disp