Re: What is in the position of the ferrite core?

2004-03-29 Thread don_borow...@selinc.com
The effectiveness of the ferrite is a matter of the characteristics of the ferrite and the wave impedance (the ratio of the total voltage [forward and reverse waves] to total current [again, forward and reverse waves]) at the point along the wire where the ferrite is placed. For example, if

Re: Difference between the HP 8566A and the HP 8566B

2003-11-25 Thread don_borow...@selinc.com
No, this is not correct. The 8566 in either version covers 100 Hz to 22 GHz. I think Gaby is confusing the 8566 with the 8568, which in both A and B models covers 100 Hz to 1.5 GHz. I am going from memory right now, but I believe the B models of both spectrum analyzers have the capability

RE: RFID tags

2003-11-20 Thread don_borow...@selinc.com
I think the passive, dumb RF antitheft tags are simply 915 MHz dipoles with a diode at the center. The scanners pick up a harmonic generated when a 915 MHz field is applied. Don Borowski Schweitzer Engineering Labs Pullman, WA

Re: Using a network analyser for EN61000-3-2 6 testing

2003-09-09 Thread don_borow...@selinc.com
When I think of a network analyzer, I think of a device that injects a signal into a network, and then receives the signal after processing by the network using a receiver tuned to the original frequency. This type of network analyzer rejects harmonics. There are some inexpensive network

Re: Extending Freq Range of Sig Gen

2003-08-29 Thread don_borow...@selinc.com
The easiest way to generate harmonics would be to hook up a pair of Schottky low capacitance (usually also low breakdown voltage) diodes in an antiparallel arrangement, and then connect the pair either shunting the RF signal, or in series with the RF signal. One way may be more successful

Re: FCC's inquiry for broadband over the powerlines (BPL)

2003-07-18 Thread don_borow...@selinc.com
You might want to check out negative commentary about the proposal on the American Radio Relay League (ARRL) web site: http://www.arrl.org/news/features/2003/07/08/ BPL could have a big negative impact on radio amateurs and other users of HF spectrum. Don Borowski WA6OMI Schweitzer

Re: Unterminated Busses

2003-07-15 Thread don_borow...@selinc.com
Loading up the PCI slots puts more capacitance on the PCI bus, slowing the logic transistions and thus reducing emissions. Quite likely loading up the ISA slots will do the same thing, though emissions could go up. To reduce keyboard emissions, try wrapping the cable multiple times through

RE: ESD - not applicable ?

2003-06-23 Thread don_borow...@selinc.com
If installation is normal usage, then should all those bare boards installed in PCs should be tested for ESD resistance in their bare state? Or is the distinction between a product and a component that goes into a product (though some may argue that, for example, a modem board is a

Re: ESD - not applicable ?

2003-06-23 Thread don_borow...@selinc.com
I think the local test lab is correct, since the product will be accessed only for installation or maintenance. This is similar to the situation where the covers are off a device for servicing - ESD testing is not required for the internal circuitry of a device with the covers off. Having

Re: (mis)spelling humor

2003-06-20 Thread don_borow...@selinc.com
I have Word 2000 here at work, and it suggests maw, jaw, jaws, maws, and jowl. I have Word 97 at home. Maybe it will come up with something more interesting. John Woodgate

Re: more OATS

2003-06-19 Thread don_borow...@selinc.com
When the model says something does not work, I believe it. When the model says something works, I take it with the several grains of salt. Don Borowski Schweitzer Engineering Labs Pullman, Washington USA Dave Cuthbert wrote on 06/19/2003 02:45:40 PM: Ran some more simulations. This is

RE: Automotive ESD

2003-06-06 Thread don_borow...@selinc.com
It has been a while since I looked at the standard. While the ESD levels for road vehicles may be the same, the generator is a bit different - the size of the capacitor is larger. If I remember correctly, it is something like 300 or 330 pF, about double the size of the capacitor in the

Re: Wire Colors

2003-06-03 Thread don_borow...@selinc.com
rbus...@es.com wrote on 06/03/2003 08:56:53 AM: I have a customer that wants to remove the power plug (and IEC 309 style) from our equipment and connect the wires to a power distribution system beneath the computer floor. This distribution system uses an IEC style din rail type of

Re: Surge Suppressors on a UPS

2003-06-02 Thread don_borow...@selinc.com
David Heald hea...@symbol.com wrote on 06/02/2003 11:51:50 AM: Most UPS's use a stepped approximation of a sine wave when in battery mode. While most switching supplies don't care (and are the intended loads for these UPS's), surge suppressors can cause real issues - It has something

Re: Bad Fuse vs. Good Fuse

2003-05-27 Thread don_borow...@selinc.com
This seems to be a problem of semantics. In the case of a fuse, a failure is a success - the fuse succeeded in protecting the circuit (neglecting the cases where the fuse failed to do its job, discussed elsewhere). I clearly recall some ads for Timken Steel in the 1960s which discussed the

RE: HV relay

2003-05-15 Thread don_borow...@selinc.com
Let me offer a possible explanation from my limited knowedge of vacuum tubes and mercury vapor rectifiers in particular. In a mercury vapor rectifier, the voltage drop is fairly constant (10 to 15 volts) no matter what the current. The reason is that it takes an electron of 10 to 15 eV to

Re: ESD failure

2003-05-13 Thread don_borow...@selinc.com
The other thing that can happen is that the discharge can take a different path. I have seen a technician succesfully discharge an ESD gun onto the connector pins of a sub-min D connector at low voltage, but only be able to hit the shell at higher voltage. Don Borowski Schweitzer

Re: Production Line Hi-Pot Test

2003-05-12 Thread don_borow...@selinc.com
The usual solution is to have the ground connection for the protection devices (varistor and gas tube) provided by a screw that can be removed for testing purposes, and then replaced after the test. Donald Borowski Schweitzer Engineering Labs Pullman, WA

Re: Heat Sink Colour.

2003-05-09 Thread don_borow...@selinc.com
To efficiently radiate heat, the radiator needs to appear black at the wavelength of the radiation. For electronic devices, the wavelength of radiation is well into the infrared region. It turns out that almost any organic coating will work well. Paints are organic coatings. The color of the

RE: Heat sink thermal impedance.

2003-05-01 Thread don_borow...@selinc.com
I think there is a difference. Thermal impedance takes into consideration the thermal masses in the system. This is important for pulsed thermal loads. Thermal resistance causes the steady-state temperature rise in response to a steady-state thermal load. The two are analogous to AC vs.

RE: Thermocouple glue

2003-04-28 Thread don_borow...@selinc.com
Ron- If you were using thermal grease long in the past, it may have been a silicone-based grease. The stuff is notorious for migrating easily, getting into switch contacts and other places causing malfunctions. Don Borowski Schweitzer Engineering Labs Pullman, WA Ron Pickard

Re: Charge level of rechargeable batteries

2003-04-23 Thread don_borow...@selinc.com
I don't know about any regulatory or safety aspects, but it would be difficult to have all batteries leave the factory uncharged. Specifically, lead-acid and lithium cells need to have at least a minimum level of charge or they will be damaged. NiCd and NiMH cells are OK with no charge. Donald

Re: Noise Factor

2003-04-10 Thread don_borow...@selinc.com
You have the noise figure of the filter/preamp combination correct at 5 dB. However, you may not be able to ignore the contribution of the spectrum analyzer. Some (many? most?) have rather high noise figures, well over 20 dB. Your amplifier gain is effectively only 19 dB, so the spectrum

Re: EU standards applying to Furnaces

2003-03-31 Thread don_borow...@selinc.com
Everyone know you can't clean a vacuum - there is nothing there to clean! Don Borowski Schweitzer Engineering Labs Pullman, WA John Woodgate j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk@majordomo.ieee.org on 03/31/2003 09:22:42 AM Please respond to John Woodgate j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk Sent by:

RE: Calibrating police radar guns

2003-03-28 Thread don_borow...@selinc.com
The tuning fork calibration method is the only one I had heard about. However, the tuning fork calibration method does not work by doppler shift (a shift in frequency due to the velocity of an object). While the frequency of the tuning fork is very stable, the amplitude of the oscillation

Re: antenna port conducted emissions

2003-03-25 Thread don_borow...@selinc.com
Do you need to look at non-fundamental, non-harmonic emissions as well? There will be such emissions as well. Some will be visible with the source in CW mode, but there will be others that appear only during frequency hopping. These latter emissions are harder to find since their frequencies are

Re: flicker harmonics currents reduction

2003-03-14 Thread don_borow...@selinc.com
I can think of only two way to reduce flicker, provide the control you need, and keep harmonics low. The first you already mentioned - a power factor corrector (really a harmonic corrector that also corrects power factor at the same time). What you need should be quite a bit less expensive than

Re: RADIATED IMMUNITY REQUIREMENTS FOR EN61326

2003-03-03 Thread don_borow...@selinc.com
My guess for the reductions: Since the frequency bands are for broadcast television and FM radio, the sources are not portable, and the field strength levels at the boarders of the broadcast transmitter location are regulated and thus known to be at the lower level. The biggest hazards for

Re: flicker results with PWM circuits

2003-02-18 Thread don_borow...@selinc.com
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. If the load in question is a resistance heating load, I can see two ways around the problem: 1. Use a circuit much like a triac light dimmer. Make sure the control is smooth enough that the flicker standard is met - no sudden changes in current.

Re: Measuring Power Supply Output Current

2003-02-17 Thread don_borow...@selinc.com
If the power supply voltage is stiff, then all you need measure is the average current. The average current times the voltage will give you the correct average power. If the supply voltage is not stiff, then the process is more complex. You will need to measure the voltage and the current,

Re: BeCu problem

2003-01-31 Thread don_borow...@selinc.com
I have seen stainless steel used as battery contacts. The contacts developed an oxide on them that made it difficult to get power from the battery. Seems to me that some plating could solve that problem however. There are no good substitues for BeO in all applications. AlN is better than

Applicabilty of Flicker Standard

2003-01-28 Thread don_borow...@selinc.com
We are trying to figure out the applicability of 61000-3-3 Flicker Standard to the power supply in our product. We have a device that may be hard wired into the public low voltage (230 V) mains under certain circumstances, and has no mains switch. Given this, it appears that the maximum relative

RE: Is this a case of basic insulation?

2003-01-17 Thread don_borow...@selinc.com
If polymeric hardware can't handle the heat, one could use ceramic hardware. I just received some product info from a company called Ceramco www.ceramcoceramics.com that among other things produces a line of ceramic nuts, bolts and washers. Don Borowski Schweitzer Engineering Labs Pullman, WA

Re: Do spectrum analyzers play a role in EMC and EMCS?

2003-01-15 Thread don_borow...@selinc.com
Yes, they are very much used for this sort of thing. Note however that many measurements have specified measurement bandwidths (usually specified as impulse bandwidth rather than the usual -3 dB or noise bandwidth) and specified post-detection signal measurements (e.g., the quasi-peak

IEEE/Elliott Labs EMC Tutorial

2003-01-13 Thread don_borow...@selinc.com
Anyone out there have the Elliott Labs EMC Tutorial CD-ROM? I got some mail from the IEEE a couple of weeks ago offering it. I would go for it without hesitation if it were say $200, but it is pricey - $675 for us IEEE members ($900 otherwise). I've been making a living doing EMC for the better

RE: Fiber optic cable testing per EN 55022:1998 ?

2003-01-10 Thread don_borow...@selinc.com
-- Forwarded by Don Borowski/SEL on 01/10/2003 10:37 AM Don Borowski 01/10/2003 10:35 AM To:Chris Maxwell chris.maxw...@nettest.com cc: Subject:RE: Fiber optic cable testing per EN 55022:1998 ? (Document link: Database 'Don Borowski', View '($Sent)') OK,

Re: European 3 Phase

2003-01-09 Thread don_borow...@selinc.com
Getting stuff that runs on 130 volts shouldn't be that difficult. Just go to Mexico. If I remember correctly, the nominal mains voltage is 126 volts, so 130 volts wouldn't be much of a stretch. Even here in the USA, some things like 130 volt incandescent light bulbs aren't too hard to find.