Re: [PSES] NRTL invoices

2016-02-12 Thread John Allen
--- From: Brian O'Connell [mailto:oconne...@tamuracorp.com] Sent: 11 February 2016 23:05 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] NRTL invoices Refusal to pay for any audit services rendered that the NRTL deems necessary will result in suspension of right to apply their mark to any pro

Re: [PSES] NRTL invoices

2016-02-11 Thread Richard Nute
> - Asia site - auditor writes variation notice because hi- > pot test level is too high. Their agency required 2500V, > another wanted 3kV. > - Asia site - auditor writes variation notice because > product is being hi-potted twice during production > process, and because one test level is a bit h

Re: [PSES] NRTL invoices

2016-02-11 Thread Richard Nute
> - U.S. customer site - auditor arrives 0930, inspects > units that do not bear his agency's marks (and have > never been assessed by any NRTL), writes variation > notice, then leaves about 1100. Why was the inspector allowed to inspect units that do not bear his certification house's mark? Do no

Re: [PSES] NRTL invoices

2016-02-11 Thread Richard Nute
> Refusal to pay for any audit services rendered that the > NRTL deems necessary will result in suspension of right > to apply their mark to any products. Pay for services rendered. If no service is rendered, then don't sign that there was service (and indicate at that time that there was no serv

Re: [PSES] NRTL invoices

2016-02-11 Thread Brian O'Connell
ement in the construction report. Brian -Original Message- From: Richard Nute [mailto:ri...@ieee.org] Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2016 2:27 PM To: Brian O'Connell; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: RE: [PSES] NRTL invoices When I was hosting the FUS, I had a rule that inspection

Re: [PSES] NRTL invoices

2016-02-11 Thread John Allen
Original Message- From: Richard Nute [mailto:ri...@ieee.org] Sent: 11 February 2016 22:27 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] NRTL invoices When I was hosting the FUS, I had a rule that inspection would not interrupt or disrupt production. I insisted that the inspector identify

Re: [PSES] NRTL invoices

2016-02-11 Thread Richard Nute
sent managers to oversee the inspections. Zero variances. Rich > -Original Message- > From: Brian O'Connell > [mailto:oconne...@tamuracorp.com] > Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2016 11:47 AM > To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG > Subject: Re: [PSES] NRTL invoices >

Re: [PSES] NRTL invoices

2016-02-11 Thread Nyffenegger, Dave
-Dave -Original Message- From: Brian O'Connell [mailto:oconne...@tamuracorp.com] Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2016 2:47 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] NRTL invoices Generally good advice, and that was the first thing looked at -> just generic, vague stuff about fe

Re: [PSES] NRTL invoices

2016-02-11 Thread Brian O'Connell
ell; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: RE: [PSES] NRTL invoices Check your contract! > -Original Message- > > Starting last year, noticed that some NRTLs are charging > twice for same audit. For example - same equipment > category, same file reference, but getting charged

Re: [PSES] NRTL invoices

2016-02-11 Thread Richard Nute
Check your contract! > -Original Message- > > Starting last year, noticed that some NRTLs are charging > twice for same audit. For example - same equipment > category, same file reference, but getting charged > factory FUS audit fees for both audit of products in > production and 'Produc

[PSES] NRTL invoices

2016-02-11 Thread Brian O'Connell
Starting last year, noticed that some NRTLs are charging twice for same audit. For example - same equipment category, same file reference, but getting charged factory FUS audit fees for both audit of products in production and 'Production Ready'. Previously, was charged for PR audit only when no