Re: [PSES] Standards for large vehicle chargers?

2019-04-13 Thread Bill Owsley
The standard response is, it depends... Was looking into this last week. Check the FCC KDB. Communications? or not ? etc. etc...  Freq, power, and more !!! On Wednesday, April 10, 2019, 10:15:36 PM EDT, EMC.Guru wrote: Hi All, What would be the appropriate EMC standards for large vehi

Re: [PSES] Standards for large vehicle chargers?

2019-04-10 Thread John Woodgate
For EU, EN 55011 applies, but any special issues with large vehicle chargers may not have been addressed yet. An amendment is being developed for Wireless Power Transfer. Best wishes John Woodgate OOO-Own Opinions Only J M Woodgate and Associates www.woodjohn.uk Rayleigh, Essex UK On 2019-04-1

[PSES] Standards for large vehicle chargers?

2019-04-10 Thread EMC.Guru
Hi All, What would be the appropriate EMC standards for large vehicle chargers (similar to the Tesla-type public units)? FCC and EU... Thanks, Ken ___ I'm here to help you succeed! Feel free to call or email with any questions related to EMC or EMI troubleshooting - at no

Re: [PSES] Standards

2019-02-25 Thread John Woodgate
t that actually changes the requirements or just a few corrections or clarifications in areas that wouldn’t really affect the product in any way? Thanks, The Other Brian *From:*John Woodgate [mailto:j...@woodjohn.uk] *Sent:* Friday, February 22, 2019 5:18 PM *To:* EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG *Subj

Re: [PSES] Standards

2019-02-25 Thread MIKE SHERMAN
[mailto:0061f3f32d0c-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ieee.org] > Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2019 1:09 PM > To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG > Subject: Re: [PSES] Standards > > > > EXTERNAL SENDER: Verify links, attachments and sender before taking action > &g

Re: [PSES] Standards

2019-02-25 Thread Wiseman, Joshua
Staff Engineer, Product Safety/EMC Ortho Clinical Diagnostics From: Pete Perkins [mailto:0061f3f32d0c-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ieee.org] Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2019 1:09 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Standards EXTERNAL SENDER: Verify links, attachments and sender

Re: [PSES] Standards

2019-02-23 Thread Pete Perkins
.@ieee.org> p.perk...@ieee.org From: Frank Tang <0d3fa4ae712a-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ieee.org> Sent: Friday, February 22, 2019 1:37 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] Standards Hi PSTC community, Looking to purchase a copy of IEC 61010-1:2010 standard and saw there

Re: [PSES] Standards

2019-02-22 Thread John Woodgate
/EC 61010-1:2010/AMD1:2016 /is just the amendment /IEC 61010-1:2010+AMD1:2016 CSV //Consolidated version/ is the full standard with the amendment integrated into the text. The 2016 edition has not yet been adopted by CENELEC, so you can't get it as an EN at a low price from Estonian Standards

[PSES] Standards

2019-02-22 Thread Frank Tang
Hi PSTC community,Looking to purchase a copy of IEC 61010-1:2010 standard and saw there are many revisions.Products will be utilized in a laboratory environment. Before purchasing a copy, would like to know the difference between IEC 61010-1:2010/AMD1:2016  andIEC 61010-1:2010+AMD1:2016 CSV Cons

Re: [PSES] [Commercial] [PSES] Standards - CNS, KN, SI

2017-10-24 Thread Grace Lin
ark > > > > *From:* Grace Lin [mailto:graceli...@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Tuesday, October 24, 2017 11:56 AM > *To:* EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG > *Subject:* [Commercial] [PSES] Standards - CNS, KN, SI > > > > Dear Members, > > > > I need help to find the source (do

Re: [PSES] [Commercial] [PSES] Standards - CNS, KN, SI

2017-10-24 Thread Schmidt, Mark
11:56 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [Commercial] [PSES] Standards - CNS, KN, SI Dear Members, I need help to find the source (download or purchase) of the following CNS, KN, and SI standards. For (Taiwan) CNS standards, form my memory, there was a government link that provide

Re: [PSES] Standards - CNS, KN, SI

2017-10-24 Thread John Woodgate
The KN standards certainly have numbers like CISPR and IEC standards, but of course may not be identical. John Woodgate OOO-Own Opinions Only J M Woodgate and Associates www.woodjohn.uk Rayleigh, Essex UK On 2017-10-24 16:56, Grace Lin wrote: Dear Members, I need help to find the source (down

[PSES] Standards - CNS, KN, SI

2017-10-24 Thread Grace Lin
Dear Members, I need help to find the source (download or purchase) of the following CNS, KN, and SI standards. For (Taiwan) CNS standards, form my memory, there was a government link that provide free viewing for CNS standards. I don't have the link handy. For KN standards, I believe they wer

Re: [PSES] Standards list change from 2004/108/EC to 2014/30/EC

2016-06-14 Thread Charlie Blackham
C 173 of 13/05/2016 as well as the previous OJ C 014 of 16/01/2015 regards Charlie From: John Merrill [mailto:jmerr...@hayward.com] Sent: 14 June 2016 18:38 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] Standards list change from 2004/108/EC to 2014/30/EC Hello all Found that Immunity

[PSES] Standards list change from 2004/108/EC to 2014/30/EC

2016-06-14 Thread John Merrill
Hello all Found that Immunity standard 55014-2 was listed in the OJ in 2015 under the old EMC Directive but I am not finding it listed under 2014/30/EC. Anyone have any idea as to why this was just listed for the old but not new version of the same directive? Thanks in advance -- John Merrill

Re: [PSES] Standards for Photo Voltaics Inverter

2016-03-04 Thread McDiarmid, Ralph
n To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG, Date: 03/03/2016 06:39 AM Subject: [PSES] Standards for Photo Voltaics Inverter Dear Members, Could you please advise what are the appropriate standards for photo voltaics inverters (360Vdc in, 110Vac or 230Vac out)? Does 61000-4-13 apply. Thank you very muc

Re: [PSES] Standards for Photo Voltaics Inverter

2016-03-03 Thread Brian O'Connell
V.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Standards for Photo Voltaics Inverter   Grace, Safety standards are:   IEC 62109-1 and UL 62109-1 is now approved for N.America.   Brian Gregory 720-450-4933 -- Original Message -- From: Grace Lin To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] Standards

Re: [PSES] Standards for Photo Voltaics Inverter

2016-03-03 Thread Brian O'Connell
Just remembered that OP was asking about immunity, not emissions, so change IEC61000-6-4 to -2. Brian -Original Message- From: Brian O'Connell Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2016 1:59 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: RE: [PSES] Standards for Photo Voltaics Inverter Assum

Re: [PSES] Standards for Photo Voltaics Inverter

2016-03-03 Thread Brian Gregory
Grace,Safety standards are: IEC 62109-1 and UL 62109-1 is now approved for N.America. Brian Gregory 720-450-4933 -- Original Message -- From: Grace Lin To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] Standards for Photo Voltaics Inverter Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2016 06:30:51 -0800

Re: [PSES] Standards for Photo Voltaics Inverter

2016-03-03 Thread Doug Powell
: Grace LinSent: Thursday, March 3, 2016 7:30 AMTo: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORGReply To: Grace LinSubject: [PSES] Standards for Photo Voltaics InverterDear Members,Could you please advise what are the appropriate standards for photo voltaics inverters (360Vdc in, 110Vac or 230Vac out)?  Does 61000-4-13

[PSES] Standards for Photo Voltaics Inverter

2016-03-03 Thread Grace Lin
Dear Members, Could you please advise what are the appropriate standards for photo voltaics inverters (360Vdc in, 110Vac or 230Vac out)? Does 61000-4-13 apply. Thank you very much and I look forward to your help. Best regards, Grace Lin - ---

Re: [PSES] standards-driven product safety

2015-02-22 Thread John Allen
No need to say much, except that I fully agree with both Rich and John W! John Allen W.London, UK -Original Message- From: John Woodgate [mailto:j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk] Sent: 22 February 2015 08:04 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] standards-driven product safety In

Re: [PSES] standards-driven product safety

2015-02-22 Thread John Woodgate
In message <54e90ce3.9030...@bendbroadband.com>, dated Sat, 21 Feb 2015, Richard Nute writes: No-one will try to write a standard for a product that does not yet exist, so standards development must always lag innovation. The question I ask is: Can you make a safe product without a safety s

[PSES] standards-driven product safety

2015-02-21 Thread Richard Nute
> No-one will try to write a standard for a product that does not yet > exist, so standards development must always lag innovation. The question I ask is: Can you make a safe product without a safety standard? If the principles of product safety are known, they can be applied to an innovative p

Re: [PSES] Standards for labels

2014-05-06 Thread Gelfand, David
x2449 |david.gelf...@ca.kontron.com From: Gary McInturff [mailto:gary.mcintu...@esterline.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2014 10:56 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Standards for labels Agree except I too have had to repeat the rub test before UL will send the report and

Re: [PSES] Standards for labels

2014-05-06 Thread Gary McInturff
. Gmac From: Ted Eckert [mailto:ted.eck...@microsoft.com] Sent: Monday, May 05, 2014 8:12 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Standards for labels Hello Dave, See IEC 60950-1 section 1.7.11 for the requirements regarding the durability of marking. This section states that any

Re: [PSES] Standards for labels

2014-05-05 Thread John Woodgate
In message <20140506042808.5931153.7174.6...@gmail.com>, dated Mon, 5 May 2014, Doug Powell writes: In my experience a safety label needs to be controlled:  label material, inks, adhesives and manufactured by an approved label shop or in-house label printing machines which are approved for th

Re: [PSES] Standards for labels

2014-05-05 Thread Doug Powell
   From: IBM KenSent: Monday, May 5, 2014 9:16 PMTo: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORGReply To: IBM KenSubject: Re: [PSES] Standards for labelsFor what it's

Re: [PSES] Standards for labels

2014-05-05 Thread IBM Ken
For what it's worth, UL accepts UL 969 for labels on NRTL marked products but insists I do a Hexane label rub test (for permanence) before giving me a CB report... -Ken On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 8:58 PM, Nyffenegger, Dave < dave.nyffeneg...@bhemail.com> wrote: > Hi Folks, > > > > The NRTLs I work

Re: [PSES] Standards for labels

2014-05-05 Thread Ted Eckert
...@microsoft.com<mailto:ted.eck...@microsoft.com> The opinions expressed are my own and do not necessarily reflect those of my employer. From: Nyffenegger, Dave [mailto:dave.nyffeneg...@bhemail.com] Sent: Monday, May 5, 2014 5:58 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] Standar

[PSES] Standards for labels

2014-05-05 Thread Nyffenegger, Dave
Hi Folks, The NRTLs I work with in the past have asked for technical details for labels when doing safety compliance certification but I'm not sure why. For example self-adhesive labels used for switches and indicators on control panels, caution/warning labels, etc. The EC Machinery and Low

Re: [PSES] Standards for acoustic noise

2014-03-27 Thread John Woodgate
In message , dated Thu, 27 Mar 2014, S Drysdale writes: I am pulling up an old thread here, because it may relate to my question.   Is there any requirement or guidance for sound pressure level limits from ultrasonic equipment operating 40-50 kHz and used in a residential environment? It'

Re: [PSES] Standards for acoustic noise

2014-03-27 Thread S Drysdale
Hi All, I am pulling up an old thread here, because it may relate to my question. Is there any requirement or guidance for sound pressure level limits from ultrasonic equipment operating 40-50 kHz and used in a residential environment? 61010 has a good reference in section 12.5.2, and 60950 has v

Re: [PSES] standards update and legal madness

2013-11-11 Thread McInturff, Gary
-Original Message- From: John Shinn [mailto:jmsh...@pacbell.net] Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 1:09 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] standards update and legal madness 1. John Woodgate makes an excellent point regarding why didn't the manufacture know about the Sta

Re: [PSES] standards update and legal madness

2013-11-11 Thread Peter Tarver
;re most likely already on these issues. Regards, Peter Tarver > -Original Message- > From: Brian Oconnell [mailto:oconne...@tamuracorp.com] > Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 10:46 > To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG > Subject: [PSES] standards update and legal madness > > None

Re: [PSES] standards update and legal madness

2013-11-09 Thread John Woodgate
In message , dated Sat, 9 Nov 2013, Brian Oconnell writes: The other reason will never serve on a committee is that I am not an expert on any single subject area, That's NOT a disadvantage, at least it hasn't been for me, and I've been doing standards work for 50 years. Clearly, you have

Re: [PSES] standards update and legal madness

2013-11-09 Thread Brian Oconnell
FWIW, the legal dorks seem to be backing off. Probably because they did not see a big pay day. Agree, in part, with Mr. Woodgate that the industry 'gets what they deserve'. But we have previously discussed the limits of corporate and individual participation in the standards development process

Re: [PSES] standards update and legal madness

2013-11-09 Thread Richard Nute
Hi Brian: "... they want to see complete list of organizations and individuals that "contributed to the errors" that caused a mandatory update to the standard." "Errors" is an assumption made by the customer lawyers. I would disagree that the mandatory updates were due to errors. Seldom do publ

Re: [PSES] standards update and legal madness

2013-11-09 Thread Pat Lawler
- The customer could also view the situation as the standards body performing due diligence, and making corrections to the standard when they discover issues. Performing standards maintenance helps protect the customer in case of user lawsuits. - I wonder if there's an 'errors and omissions' claus

Re: [PSES] standards update and legal madness

2013-11-08 Thread John Woodgate
In message , dated Sat, 9 Nov 2013, Brian Oconnell writes: The notices used phrases such as " correction of typographical errors" and "correction of incorrect requirements" and " correction of incorrect reference" and other terms that many would actually find a bit funny. The first and t

Re: [PSES] standards update and legal madness

2013-11-08 Thread Brian Oconnell
08, 2013 1:09 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] standards update and legal madness 1. John Woodgate makes an excellent point regarding why didn't the manufacture know about the Standard Changes. 2. Does the manufacturer build to the customer's prints and requiremen

Re: [PSES] standards update and legal madness

2013-11-08 Thread John Shinn
riginal Message- From: John Woodgate Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 11:45 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] standards update and legal madness In message <518cfcd229674efe916347038430c...@blupr02mb116.namprd02.prod.outlook.com> , dated Fri, 8 Nov 2013, Brian Oconnell write

Re: [PSES] standards update and legal madness

2013-11-08 Thread John Woodgate
In message <518cfcd229674efe916347038430c...@blupr02mb116.namprd02.prod.outlook.com> , dated Fri, 8 Nov 2013, Brian Oconnell writes: A company makes a component for North American market designed for the needs of a single customer. The company received notices from CSA and UL with tabulation

Re: [PSES] standards update and legal madness

2013-11-08 Thread Mike Sherman ----- Original Message -----
tened suit. Mike Sherman Product Safety and Compliance Engineer Graco Inc. - Original Message - From: "Brian Oconnell" To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Sent: Friday, November 8, 2013 12:45:43 PM Subject: [PSES] standards update and legal madness None of this is a represent

[PSES] standards update and legal madness

2013-11-08 Thread Brian Oconnell
None of this is a representation of my employer. A company makes a component for North American market designed for the needs of a single customer. The company received notices from CSA and UL with tabulation of standards corrections. The company informed affected customer of time and cost to u

Re: [PSES] Standards copyright lawsuit

2013-10-09 Thread John Woodgate
In message <5252fe1f.3010...@earthlink.net>, dated Mon, 7 Oct 2013, Cortland Richmond writes: .  But imagine one day finding that one has been convicted in absentia of speeding through a town without speed limit signs,  limits available only by subscription. That applies in many third-world

Re: [PSES] Standards copyright lawsuit

2013-10-08 Thread Dward
] Standards copyright lawsuit and the number of lawyers. From: Derek Walton <mailto:lfresea...@aol.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 4:32 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Standards copyright lawsuit Doug has a point, the laws are available, and we can get acce

Re: [PSES] Standards copyright lawsuit

2013-10-08 Thread John Shinn
and the number of lawyers. From: Derek Walton Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 4:32 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Standards copyright lawsuit Doug has a point, the laws are available, and we can get access for free. The problem is we spend our lives trying to find which

Re: [PSES] Standards copyright lawsuit

2013-10-08 Thread Ted Eckert
recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message and attachments. From: Pettit, Ghery [mailto:ghery.pet...@intel.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 8, 2013 8:53 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Standards copyright lawsuit I think he

Re: [PSES] Standards copyright lawsuit

2013-10-08 Thread Pettit, Ghery
existence of them. Oh well… Ghery S. Pettit From: McInturff, Gary [mailto:gary.mcintu...@esterline.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 8:43 AM To: Pettit, Ghery; 'EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG' Subject: RE: [PSES] Standards copyright lawsuit Conceptually I agree but I can’t see how it cou

Re: [PSES] Standards copyright lawsuit

2013-10-08 Thread McInturff, Gary
only. Gary From: Pettit, Ghery [mailto:ghery.pet...@intel.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 8:03 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Standards copyright lawsuit I suggested that to one of our state legislators a few years ago when he was complaining about a number of “stupid

Re: [PSES] Standards copyright lawsuit

2013-10-08 Thread Pettit, Ghery
AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Standards copyright lawsuit Doug has a point, the laws are available, and we can get access for free. The problem is we spend our lives trying to find which laws we have to comply with, then more than likely have lawyers try to agree what they

Re: [PSES] Standards copyright lawsuit

2013-10-08 Thread Derek Walton
r posted cautionary and warning > statements. > > Doug > > > > From: Cortland Richmond > Sent: Monday, October 7, 2013 12:32 PM > To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG > Reply To: k...@earthlink.net > Subject: Re: [PSES] Standards copyright lawsuit > > The problem is

Re: [PSES] Standards copyright lawsuit

2013-10-08 Thread gdstuyvenb...@yahoo.com
ly by subscription." From: Cortland Richmond To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Sent: Monday, October 7, 2013 1:31 PM Subject: Re: [PSES] Standards copyright lawsuit The problem is, of course, that by incorporating copyrighted documents into the Code of Federal Regul

Re: [PSES] Standards copyright lawsuit

2013-10-07 Thread Doug Powell
: Cortland RichmondSent: Monday, October 7, 2013 12:32 PMTo: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORGReply To: k...@earthlink.netSubject: Re: [PSES] Standards copyright lawsuit The problem is, of course, that by incorporating copyrighted

Re: [PSES] Standards copyright lawsuit

2013-10-07 Thread Cortland Richmond
The problem is, of course, that by incorporating copyrighted documents into the Code of Federal Regulations "by reference," various agencies render invisible laws we are all required to obey -- unless we go to their reading rooms (I think) to find out. In practice? We on this list work or hav

[PSES] Standards copyright lawsuit

2013-10-07 Thread Peter Tarver
There is occasionally much haranguing regarding how "standards should be free." The NFPA has joined ASHRAE and ASTMto claim otherwise. Regards, Peter L. Tarver This email me

Re: [PSES] Standards free, by law, in the USA?

2013-08-26 Thread Doug Powell
/dougp01resume/ From: Ken Wyatt Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 9:41 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Standards free, by law, in the USA? Another example of disruptive nature of the Internet... http://www.edn.com/electronics-blogs/the-emc-blog/4378139/Pirated-Standards--Could

Re: [PSES] Standards free, by law, in the USA?

2013-08-26 Thread John Woodgate
In message <006001cea282$d1ec5e20$75c51a60$@cox.net>, dated Mon, 26 Aug 2013, Ed Price writes: I wonder what the rejected versions looked like? Vultures? -- OOO - Own Opinions Only. With best wishes. See www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Why is the stapler always empty just when you want it? John Woodga

Re: [PSES] Standards free, by law, in the USA?

2013-08-26 Thread Ed Price
@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Standards free, by law, in the USA? Another example of disruptive nature of the Internet... http://www.edn.com/electronics-blogs/the-emc-blog/4378139/Pirated-Standards- -Could-It-Be-True- After alerting several of the major standards organizations

Re: [PSES] Standards free, by law, in the USA?

2013-08-26 Thread Ken Wyatt
and Compliance Engineer > Graco Inc. > From: "David Schaefer" > To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG > Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 8:10:00 AM > Subject: [PSES] Standards free, by law, in the USA? > > https://www.eff.org/press/releases/publicresourceorg-fights-back-against

Re: [PSES] Standards free, by law, in the USA?

2013-08-26 Thread Mike Sherman ----- Original Message -----
- From: "David Schaefer" To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 8:10:00 AM Subject: [PSES] Standards free, by law, in the USA? https://www.eff.org/press/releases/publicresourceorg-fights-back-against-copyright-lawsuit   This article brings up an i

[PSES] Standards free, by law, in the USA?

2013-08-26 Thread Schaefer, David
https://www.eff.org/press/releases/publicresourceorg-fights-back-against-copyright-lawsuit This article brings up an interesting viewpoint - since the standards are required by law, can copyright be enforced on them? Laws must be public domain, so how can the actual requirements of the law be u

Re: [PSES] Standards Dates

2013-08-12 Thread Pete Perkins
Brian, et al, I have two 61010-1 3rd ed projects underway at UL for two different clients; expecting both the NRTL certification plus a CB Report for each. Neither of these projects invoke a part 2 standard. :>) br, Pete Peter E Perkins, PE Principal Product Safety

Re: [PSES] [External] Re: [PSES] Standards Dates

2013-08-12 Thread Wiseman, Joshua E
This is another common dilemma when dealing with standards that use part 2’s. Josh From: Doug Powell [mailto:doug...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 10:18 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [External] Re: [PSES] Standards Dates There is an additional wrinkle. Although the 3rd

Re: [PSES] Standards Dates

2013-08-12 Thread Doug Powell
. From: Kunde, BrianSent: Monday, August 12, 2013 8:56 AMTo: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORGReply To: Kunde, BrianSubject: Re: [PSES] Standards DatesVery good explanation. Thank you very much.The Other Brian-Original Message-From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p

Re: [PSES] Standards Dates

2013-08-12 Thread Kunde, Brian
Very good explanation. Thank you very much. The Other Brian -Original Message- From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Wiseman, Joshua E Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 10:36 AM To: Boštjan Glavič; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [BULK] RE: [PSES] Standards

Re: [PSES] Standards Dates

2013-08-12 Thread Wiseman, Joshua E
ject: [External] Re: [PSES] Standards Dates Brian, Are you sure? I have heard that CSA and UL are able to issue NRTL according to 3 rd Ed. We are just in process for applying 2 projects according to 3rd Ed to CSA. Best regards, Bostjan SIQ On 12. avg. 2013, at 15:03, "Kunde, Brian"

Re: [PSES] Standards Dates

2013-08-12 Thread Boštjan Glavič
c-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Pete Perkins > Sent: Friday, August 09, 2013 2:12 PM > To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG > Cc: 'Scott Douglas' > Subject: RE: [PSES] Standards Dates > > Scott, et al, > >The cessation date is more flexible in the US than in Europe

Re: [PSES] Standards Dates

2013-08-12 Thread Kunde, Brian
Pete Perkins Sent: Friday, August 09, 2013 2:12 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Cc: 'Scott Douglas' Subject: RE: [PSES] Standards Dates Scott, et al, The cessation date is more flexible in the US than in Europe. UL has a Continuing Certification Program which has been in

Re: [PSES] Standards Dates

2013-08-09 Thread Pete Perkins
Scott, et al, The cessation date is more flexible in the US than in Europe. UL has a Continuing Certification Program which has been in place for some time which can be applied to certified products approved in the past. For instance, UL recently announced that this C

Re: [PSES] Standards Dates

2013-08-09 Thread Brian Oconnell
Unlike the EU, the U.S. OSHA does not necessarily publish a 'cessation' date, and leaves most of the grandfathering for legacy products to the individual NRTL. Typically, ANSI will publish a standard, then OSHA subsequently adopts the standard and applies to the accreditation list for the NRTLs. T

Re: [PSES] Standards Dates

2013-08-08 Thread Ted Eckert
oug From: Scott Douglas Sent: Wednesday, August 7, 2013 10:09 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG<mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> Reply To: Scott Douglas Subject: [PSES] Standards Dates For Harmonized standards in the EU, you can get a list of the standards, their various versions, and which

Re: [PSES] Standards Dates

2013-08-08 Thread Doug Powell
From: Scott DouglasSent: Wednesday, August 7, 2013 10:09 PMTo: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORGReply To: Scott DouglasSubject: [PSES] Standards DatesFor Harmonized standards in the EU, you can get a list of the

[PSES] Standards Dates

2013-08-07 Thread Scott Douglas
For Harmonized standards in the EU, you can get a list of the standards, their various versions, and which expires when. For UL or CSA standards, how does one tell or determine when a particular version of a standard is no longer usable to show compliance? Example - I have legacy product appr

Re: [PSES] Standards for Industrial Machinery in Japan?

2012-11-16 Thread Steven Brody
...@productehsconsulting.com sgbr...@comcast.net -Original Message- From: Doug Nix [mailto:d...@mac.com] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2012 10:21 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] Standards for Industrial Machinery in Japan? Colleagues, Can anyone point me towards the Japanese industrial machinery

Re: [PSES] Standards for Industrial Machinery in Japan?

2012-11-16 Thread T.Sato
On Fri, 16 Nov 2012 10:20:42 -0500, Doug Nix wrote: > Can anyone point me towards the Japanese industrial machinery standards for > safety and electrical requirements? I know of JIS, but am not familiar with > them in any kind of detail. > > The equipment is a robotic paint booth applicatio

[PSES] Standards for Industrial Machinery in Japan?

2012-11-16 Thread Doug Nix
Colleagues, Can anyone point me towards the Japanese industrial machinery standards for safety and electrical requirements? I know of JIS, but am not familiar with them in any kind of detail. The equipment is a robotic paint booth application employing three, six-axis painting robots and some

RE: [PSES] Standards for Motors and Wire in an outdoor environment

2009-02-25 Thread Fred Townsend
: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 1:28 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Standards for Motors and Wire in an outdoor environment   Group, I have two questions. Can anyone recommend any standards ( Safety and Environmental) used to evaluate / qualify DC motors which reside in an