Re: [PSES] UL Listing of Computer Keyboard

2018-06-24 Thread James Pawson (U3C)
Hi Richard, Most useful, thank you for the email :) All the best James Richard Nute wrote > > >Hi James: > > > >Some additional information in response to your conclusions: > > > >* NRTL approval legally required for selling in the USA? No. > > > >There is no Federal law,

Re: [PSES] UL Listing of Computer Keyboard

2018-06-23 Thread Richard Nute
Hi James: Some additional information in response to your conclusions: * NRTL approval legally required for selling in the USA? No. There is no Federal law, but city, county, and state laws require NRTL. For example (but not limited to), City of Chicago, County of Los

Re: [PSES] UL Listing of Computer Keyboard

2018-06-20 Thread James Pawson (U3C)
Again many thanks to everyone who has replied, I’ve found the responses very useful. All the best James From: Ted Eckert <07cf6ebeab9d-dmarc-requ...@ieee.org> Sent: 19 June 2018 16:07 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] UL Listing of Computer Keyboard

Re: [PSES] UL Listing of Computer Keyboard

2018-06-19 Thread Pete Perkins
Connell Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 10:43 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] UL Listing of Computer Keyboard FUS audit and certification and license costs are not necessarily able to be distributed over a larger production number; will depend on the particular NRTL/SCC. F

Re: [PSES] UL Listing of Computer Keyboard

2018-06-19 Thread Brian O'Connell
News Reviewer of Oceania From: Pete Perkins [mailto:0061f3f32d0c-dmarc-requ...@ieee.org] Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 8:56 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] UL Listing of Computer Keyboard James,    As an American I’m not privy to the inner workings of making

Re: [PSES] UL Listing of Computer Keyboard

2018-06-19 Thread Pete Perkins
f3f32d0c-dmarc-requ...@ieee.org> > Sent: 19 June 2018 00:27 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG <mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> Subject: Re: [PSES] UL Listing of Computer Keyboard Dave, et al, I think that you are simplifying the discussion too much. Certainly

Re: [PSES] UL Listing of Computer Keyboard

2018-06-19 Thread Ted Eckert
own and do not necessarily reflect those of my employer. From: James Pawson (U3C) Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 1:56 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] UL Listing of Computer Keyboard Hi all, Thanks very much for the illuminating replies, it’s a great help. To summarise

Re: [PSES] UL Listing of Computer Keyboard

2018-06-19 Thread James Pawson (U3C)
ubject: Re: [PSES] UL Listing of Computer Keyboard Dave, et al, I think that you are simplifying the discussion too much. Certainly a wall-wart with an ELV output is not an electric shock hazard but that is no guarantee that any NRTL wall-wart power supply will not start

Re: [PSES] UL Listing of Computer Keyboard

2018-06-18 Thread Pete Perkins
as it doesn’t need it. -Dave From: Monrad Monsen [mailto:monrad.mon...@oracle.com] Sent: Monday, June 18, 2018 12:02 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG <mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> Subject: Re: [PSES] UL Listing of Computer Keyboard Hi James, Please note that the OSHA Na

Re: [PSES] UL Listing of Computer Keyboard

2018-06-18 Thread Richard Nute
@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] UL Listing of Computer Keyboard This is generally true however there are plenty of examples of products for sale as well as those used in the workplace that are simple in nature and/or non-hazardous and do not carry an NRTL mark. For example, the stapler

Re: [PSES] UL Listing of Computer Keyboard

2018-06-18 Thread Nyffenegger, Dave
From: Monrad Monsen [mailto:monrad.mon...@oracle.com] Sent: Monday, June 18, 2018 12:02 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] UL Listing of Computer Keyboard Hi James, Please note that the OSHA Nationally Recognized Test Laboratory (NRTL) will verify your product to UL62368-1

Re: [PSES] UL Listing of Computer Keyboard

2018-06-18 Thread Monrad Monsen
Hi James, Please note that the OSHA Nationally Recognized Test Laboratory (NRTL) will verify your product to UL62368-1 standard (based on international IEC62368-1). The OSHA regulation mandates that employers provide a safe working environment for employees (and local building codes support

Re: [PSES] UL Listing of Computer Keyboard

2018-06-18 Thread CATHERINE PEARSON
Hi James, Is UL listing mandatory for IT accessories like keyboards? No any NRTL certification will be sufficient, but that may not be the question or answer ! Depending where you are selling the equipment, they may expect a certain certification mark,  Ive gotten many approvals for the USA

[PSES] UL Listing of Computer Keyboard

2018-06-18 Thread James Pawson (U3C)
Hi folks, Working with a client at the moment on a computer keyboard (hence the earlier question). I'm trying to get a handle on the applicability of UL listing and could do with some help. Is UL listing mandatory for IT accessories like keyboards? My searching so far suggests that the