Re: CISPR22 Edition 5 SLCE and Ethernet

2006-06-22 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
John, Many thanks for helping getting a reply form the source. I mostly appreciate it. Neven -- Original message -- From: John Woodgate j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk In message 062220060603.17444.449A32C1000E06B844242207020853CECE020A900A02@comc ast.net, dated Thu,

Re: CISPR22 Edition 5 SLCE and Ethernet

2006-06-22 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
In message 062220060603.17444.449A32C1000E06B844242207020853CECE020A900A02@comc ast.net, dated Thu, 22 Jun 2006, neve...@comcast.net writes AFAIK, there is no spec on imbalance of (each diff pair of) a port, and I will check it with my local IEEE Ethernet spec specialists. I don't know if

Re: CISPR22 Edition 5 SLCE and Ethernet

2006-06-22 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
AFAIK, there is no spec on imbalance of (each diff pair of) a port, and I will check it with my local IEEE Ethernet spec specialists. I don't know if there is a spec on the cable, but I will try to find it. I'd really like to see if the requirement from the standard has any basis in the actual

Re: CISPR22 Edition 5 SLCE and Ethernet

2006-06-22 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
In message 062220060528.732.449A2A99000B117902DC2200745672CECE020A900A02@comcas t.net, dated Thu, 22 Jun 2006, neve...@comcast.net writes However, the issue is not the imbalance specification looking into the DUT connector (test port, diff pairs). The problem that I see here is that

Re: CISPR22 Edition 5 SLCE and Ethernet

2006-06-22 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
John, thanks for the explanation to David, you are right in what you wrote. I was out the whole day so I am catching up now in the evening. However, the issue is not the imbalance specification looking into the DUT connector (test port, diff pairs). The problem that I see here is that

Re: CISPR22 Edition 5 SLCE and Ethernet

2006-06-21 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
In message 231db4b2f2634a4c94d87d89a4fa81d201542...@ny13ex011.global.ds.honeywell.c om, dated Wed, 21 Jun 2006, Sterner, David [SFS] david.ster...@honeywell.com writes If a pair of lines connects only two ports, each of the two ports is 100 ohms impedance, and the cable is uniform, please

RE: CISPR22 Edition 5 SLCE and Ethernet

2006-06-21 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
In a message 21-Jun-06 Mr. Woodgate stated I don't understand why you have sent this information. I've no doubt it's all true, but you haven't quoted any of the message you are responding to, and you haven't commented on the permitted unbalance of the port impedances, which is one subject under

Re: CISPR22 Edition 5 SLCE and Ethernet

2006-06-21 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
In message 231db4b2f2634a4c94d87d89a4fa81d201542...@ny13ex011.global.ds.honeywell.c om, dated Wed, 21 Jun 2006, Sterner, David [SFS] david.ster...@honeywell.com writes Per ANSI/IEEE 8032.3x Ethernet Cat 5, 6, and 7 cables have only two ports, additional ports are forbidden. Both ports are

RE: CISPR22 Edition 5 SLCE and Ethernet

2006-06-21 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Per ANSI/IEEE 8032.3x Ethernet Cat 5, 6, and 7 cables have only two ports, additional ports are forbidden. Both ports are transformer isolated for a 100-ohm impedance termination. Communication to other network locations is always through an active device (e.g. hub, switch, router). The only

Re: CISPR22 Edition 5 SLCE and Ethernet

2006-06-21 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
In message 062120060433.25342.4498CC271E7162FE2207020853CECE020A900A02@comc ast.net, dated Wed, 21 Jun 2006, neve...@comcast.net writes I am looking for the actual data supporting the chosen LCL characteristics for the CAT5, 6 and 7 ISN per the standard.  Yes, and I think that data (or

Re: CISPR22 Edition 5 SLCE and Ethernet

2006-06-21 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
John, I am looking for the actual data supporting the chosen LCL characteristics for the CAT5, 6 and 7 ISN per the standard. According to the described intent of the standard, the ISN characteristics are such to purposely introduce imbalance, supposedly to replicate the LCL characteristics of a

Re: CISPR22 Edition 5 SLCE and Ethernet

2006-06-20 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
I didn't get any reply to my original question, so I'll try a little smaller bite. Does anyone have or know the sources (preferably published, verifiable, with the exact test method described) of the LCL (Longitudinal Conversion Loss, i.e. balance) of typical installation that support the LCL

CISPR22 Edition 5 SLCE and Ethernet

2006-06-09 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Hi everyone, Is anyone on the list familiar with the work on CISPR 22 and a part of the standard committee? I am looking at CISPR 22 Edition 5 (2005), trying to understand the specific requirements on ISN and CDN for Signal Line Conducted emission, especially the so called Longitudinal