Re: Manufacturing Hipot Testing

2001-08-23 Thread John Woodgate
I read in !emc-pstc that Colgan, Chris wrote (in ) about 'Manufacturing Hipot Testing', on Thu, 23 Aug 2001: >ps there's no need to shout :) Since it was the third time that I'd made the point, I felt that some emphasis could be excused. -- Regards, John Woodgate, OOO -

RE: Manufacturing Hipot Testing

2001-08-23 Thread Crabb, John
-Original Message- From: raymond...@omnisourceasia.com.hk [mailto:raymond...@omnisourceasia.com.hk] Sent: 23 August 2001 15:13 To: kazimier_gawrzy...@dell.com Cc: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: RE: Manufacturing Hipot Testing I just found out the notes about the hipot testing. The standar

RE: Manufacturing Hipot Testing

2001-08-23 Thread Raymond . Li
Subject: RE: Manufacturing Hipot Testing Raymond, I'm curious...which standard were you reading? Regards, Kaz Gawrzyjal Dell Computer Corp. -Original Message- From:

RE: Manufacturing Hipot Testing

2001-08-23 Thread info
Just a viewpoint from one of those commercial test houses. In Europe the requirements of the Low Voltage Directive are that a product must be safe, be constructed in accordance with good engineering practice and comply with the principal elements of the safety objectives detailed. It does not say

RE: Manufacturing Hipot Testing

2001-08-23 Thread Colgan, Chris
ssage- > From: John Woodgate [SMTP:j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk] > Sent: 22 August 2001 11:31 > To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org > Subject: Re: Manufacturing Hipot Testing > > > I read in !emc-pstc that Colgan, Chris > wrote (in ) about > 'Manufacturing Hipot Testing

Re: Manufacturing Hipot Testing

2001-08-22 Thread John Woodgate
I read in !emc-pstc that raymond...@omnisourceasia.com.hk wrote (in ) about 'Manufacturing Hipot Testing', on Wed, 22 Aug 2001: >I have read one BSEN standard suggesting not to perform hipot testing at >the test voltage, 3kV, 1.25kV or 3.75kV in mass production. Which on

Re: Manufacturing Hipot Testing

2001-08-22 Thread Doug McKean
Raymond, I've been in such a position where we contested hi-pot testing each and every AC power cable which was sent with every product during production line testing. There were two basic reasons: one, for the reason you've suggested possibly introducing a failure. Second, the time constr

RE: Manufacturing Hipot Testing

2001-08-22 Thread Kazimier_Gawrzyjal
hk'; emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Cc: owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: RE: Manufacturing Hipot Testing I don't see where that proves anything ( 1/2 voltage testing) using voltage applicable to product is required. Testing for one second checks for shorts and miswiring or spacings that may have b

RE: Manufacturing Hipot Testing

2001-08-22 Thread Stone, Richard A (Richard)
ymond...@omnisourceasia.com.hk [mailto:raymond...@omnisourceasia.com.hk] Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 10:26 AM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Cc: owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: Re: Manufacturing Hipot Testing Dear All, I have read one BSEN standard suggesting not to perform hipot testing at the

Re: Manufacturing Hipot Testing

2001-08-22 Thread John Woodgate
I read in !emc-pstc that Colgan, Chris wrote (in ) about 'Manufacturing Hipot Testing', on Wed, 22 Aug 2001: > " Well, you have come to the right conclusion but for two wrong >reasons. > >> In Europe, there are no longer any 'national approvals' like

Manufacturing Hipot Testing

2001-08-22 Thread georgea
...@interlock.lexmark.com To: emc-pstc%majordomo.ieee@interlock.lexmark.com cc: owner-emc-pstc%majordomo.ieee@interlock.lexmark.com (bcc: George Alspaugh/Lex/Lexmark) Subject: Re: Manufacturing Hipot Testing Dear All, I have read one BSEN standard suggesting not to perform hipot testing at

Re: Manufacturing Hipot Testing

2001-08-22 Thread Raymond . Li
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RE: Manufacturing Hipot Testing

2001-08-22 Thread Colgan, Chris
" Well, you have come to the right conclusion but for two wrong reasons. > In Europe, there are no longer any 'national approvals' like the old > SEMKO etc. There is ONLY the Low Voltage Directive, and the European > Standards (ENs) that have been 'notified' in the Official Journal as > p

Re: Manufacturing Hipot Testing

2001-08-21 Thread John Woodgate
I read in !emc-pstc that Doug McKean wrote (in <001001c12a54$2b315f80$3e3e3...@corp.auspex.com>) about 'Manufacturing Hipot Testing', on Tue, 21 Aug 2001: >IMHO, if I were to address the initial question regarding >manufactoring >testing of a product bound for Europe

Re: Manufacturing Hipot Testing

2001-08-21 Thread Doug McKean
The following is strictly opinion ... I may be sticking my neck way out here, but it is my understanding that any required manufacturing hi-pot test, with regard to UL-1950, is contractual between the mfr of said device and the testing NRTL. To my knowledge, there is no *requirement* within the s

Re: Manufacturing Hipot Testing

2001-08-21 Thread eric . lifsey
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RE: Manufacturing Hipot Testing

2001-08-20 Thread Ron Pickard
n.co.uk, emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Sent by: cc: owner-emc-pstc@majordomSubject: RE: Manufacturing

Re: Manufacturing Hipot Testing

2001-08-20 Thread eric . lifsey
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RE: Manufacturing Hipot Testing

2001-08-20 Thread Kazimier_Gawrzyjal
Woodgate [mailto:j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk] Sent: Monday, August 20, 2001 12:49 PM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: Re: Manufacturing Hipot Testing I read in !emc-pstc that Peter Merguerian wrote (in <2D1037012914D4118DB8204C4F4F50202D5CD4@ITLLTD01>) about 'Manufacturing Hipot Testing&#

Re: Manufacturing Hipot Testing

2001-08-20 Thread John Woodgate
I read in !emc-pstc that Peter Merguerian wrote (in <2D1037012914D4118DB8204C4F4F50202D5CD4@ITLLTD01>) about 'Manufacturing Hipot Testing', on Mon, 20 Aug 2001: >Production - Line Tests (usually Dilectric Strength and Earth Continuity and >in some cases like medical equipm

Re: Manufacturing Hipot Testing

2001-08-20 Thread John Woodgate
I read in !emc-pstc that Chris Maxwell wrote (in <83d652574e7af740873674f9fc12dbaa675...@utexh1w2.gnnettest.com>) about 'Manufacturing Hipot Testing', on Mon, 20 Aug 2001: >I believe that it matters. For instance, in EN 61010-1 (Safety of Test >& Measurement Equipmen

RE: Manufacturing Hipot Testing

2001-08-20 Thread Peter Merguerian
-(0)54-838175 -Original Message- From: Chris Maxwell [mailto:chris.maxw...@nettest.com] Sent: Monday, August 20, 2001 1:47 PM To: don_macart...@selinc.com; emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: RE: Manufacturing Hipot Testing Hi Don, I'm curious Which safety standard to yo

FW: Manufacturing Hipot Testing

2001-08-20 Thread Jon Griver
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Re: Manufacturing Hipot Testing

2001-08-20 Thread georgea
ark.com cc:(bcc: George Alspaugh/Lex/Lexmark) Subject: Manufacturing Hipot Testing Dear Group: A Hipot standard which we must run for CE compliance requires that circuit-to-circuit and circuit-to-ground testing be performed on a routine basis. The test is applied for 10s. The products I deal

RE: Manufacturing Hipot Testing

2001-08-20 Thread richard . payne
richard.pa...@tektronix.com -Original Message- From: Chris Maxwell [mailto:chris.maxw...@nettest.com] Sent: Monday, August 20, 2001 4:47 AM To: don_macart...@selinc.com; emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: RE: Manufacturing Hipot Testing Hi Don, I'm curious Which safety standard to

RE: Manufacturing Hipot Testing

2001-08-20 Thread Chris Maxwell
inal Message- > From: don_macart...@selinc.com [SMTP:don_macart...@selinc.com] > Sent: Friday, August 17, 2001 2:13 PM > To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org > Subject: Manufacturing Hipot Testing > > > > > Dear Group: > > A Hipot standard which we must run for CE com

Re: Manufacturing Hipot Testing

2001-08-17 Thread John Woodgate
I read in !emc-pstc that don_macart...@selinc.com wrote (in <88256AAB.00 640e1a...@edison.selinc.com>) about 'Manufacturing Hipot Testing', on Fri, 17 Aug 2001: >A Hipot standard which we must run for CE compliance requires that >circuit-to-circuit and circuit-to-ground tes

RE: Manufacturing Hipot Testing

2001-08-17 Thread Scott Lacey
: Manufacturing Hipot Testing Dear Group: A Hipot standard which we must run for CE compliance requires that circuit-to-circuit and circuit-to-ground testing be performed on a routine basis. The test is applied for 10s. The products I deal with have many circuits (Inputs, outputs, etc.) so test

Manufacturing Hipot Testing

2001-08-17 Thread Don_MacArthur
Dear Group: A Hipot standard which we must run for CE compliance requires that circuit-to-circuit and circuit-to-ground testing be performed on a routine basis. The test is applied for 10s. The products I deal with have many circuits (Inputs, outputs, etc.) so test time is excessive . To spe