Measuring AC

1997-01-16 Thread Max
Does anyone know of a good method (or have any ideas) of how I could reduce line voltage down to low (DC) levels in order to measure the line voltage with an AD converter. Using a transformer is obviously the easiest way and probably provides the least potential problems with safety agencies. Bu

Re: Measuring AC

1997-01-17 Thread Tony J. O'Hara
Hi Max YouAsked <> Why not just use a precision voltage divider, and then feed the reduced ac voltage to your A/D. If you need only positve voltage, then couple into the A/D with a capacitor and add a precise DC offset voltage. <> Probably not the best way to do it! <> I am not a safety engine

Re: Measuring AC

1997-01-17 Thread jmalton
Hello. I don't know your application here of course, but it may not meet your needs simply to divide the incoming line voltage and give it to an ADC, since that would connect your logic ground to the AC neutral at the ADC, and this might not be a good plan. Using the "ground" reference fr

Re: Measuring AC

1997-01-17 Thread Robert Macy
10>YouAsked 10>reduce line voltage down to low (DC) levels in order to measure the line 10>voltage with an AD converter.>> Three alternatives come to mind: transformers, caps, or "no connection". You can use a very small transformer to isolate the mains while maintaining great ac

RE: Measuring AC

1997-01-20 Thread Rick Busche
org >Subject: Measuring AC > > >Does anyone know of a good method (or have any ideas) of how I could >reduce line voltage down to low (DC) levels in order to measure the line >voltage with an AD converter. > >Using a transformer is obviously the easiest way and pr

FW: Measuring AC

1997-01-21 Thread George, David L TR
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re: Measuring AC

1997-01-22 Thread Max
I want to thank everyone for the great information I got in response to my question about measuring AC. One thing I hadn't thought about with my off-the-cuff idea of simply using a voltage divider is the issue of isolating the AC return and the circuit board return. Not isolating these rai

Measuring AC Line Impedance

2002-09-19 Thread Spencer, David H
I'm trying to characterize the 50Hz AC line impedance of my facility, for comparison to the values specified in IEC61000-3-3. I've come across "generic" short circuit values for the Resistive and Inductive components. However, I need to determine exactly what these values are ideally through a co

measuring AC line impedance (:-)

2002-10-30 Thread Ted Rook
don't you stick the probes in the outlet with the knob set to 'OHMS'? (;o) sorry couldn't resist it. don't try this at home folks. --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web

Re[2]: Measuring AC

1997-01-23 Thread jmalton
"I'm not so arrogant as to suggest that my opinions are corporate policy" __ Reply Separator _____ Subject: re: Measuring AC Author: Max at mailway List-Post: emc-pstc@listserv.ieee.org Date:1/22/97 4:10 PM I

Re: Re: Measuring AC

1997-01-17 Thread Horst Haug
Hello, You might use clause 2.4 of IEC950 or clause or clause 6.3.1.2 of IEC1010 depending what standard is valid for your equipment. LIMITED CURRENT CIRCIUT. In this way you should be able to avoid the use of transformer or optocoupler. This enables you to measure on AC (primary) and connect

Re: Measuring AC Line Impedance

2002-09-20 Thread Don_Borowski
: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org cc:(bcc: Don Borowski/SEL) Subject: Re: Measuring AC Line Impedance I read in !emc-pstc that Spencer, David H wrote (in <052106A55179D611B34300096BB02E3F8B1D@USAMCMS4>) about 'Measuring AC Line Impedance' on Thu, 19 Sep 2002: >Is anyone fam

Re: Measuring AC Line Impedance

2002-09-20 Thread Don_Borowski
: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org cc:(bcc: Don Borowski/SEL) Subject: Re: Measuring AC Line Impedance I read in !emc-pstc that Spencer, David H wrote (in <052106A55179D611B34300096BB02E3F8B1D@USAMCMS4>) about 'Measuring AC Line Impedance' on Thu, 19 Sep 2002: >Is anyone fam

Re: Measuring AC Line Impedance

2002-09-19 Thread plawler
Hi Dave: I had the same question some time back, and came up with the following process. 1) For the resistive component, I applied a resistive load to the AC line, and calculated R = dV/dI 2) For the inductive component, I measured the transient current through an 'X' capacitor at the moment it

Re: Measuring AC Line Impedance

2002-09-19 Thread JPR3
In a message dated 9/19/2002, you write: > So far, I've taken a large resistive load and measured the voltage drop on > the AC line. From that I calculated the total impedance of the AC line. > However, as you may suspect, with a resistive load, the power factor is > 1.0. > So I can't vectorly

Re: Measuring AC Line Impedance

2002-09-19 Thread John Woodgate
I read in !emc-pstc that Spencer, David H wrote (in <052106A55179D611B34300096BB02E3F8B1D@USAMCMS4>) about 'Measuring AC Line Impedance' on Thu, 19 Sep 2002: >Is anyone familiar with a method to measure and calculate those values. The >generic values I have for short ci

Re: Measuring AC Line Impedance

2002-09-19 Thread JPR3
In a message dated 9/19/2002, you write: > So far, I've taken a large resistive load and measured the voltage drop on > the AC line. From that I calculated the total impedance of the AC line. > However, as you may suspect, with a resistive load, the power factor is > 1.0. > So I can't vectorly

Re: Measuring AC Line Impedance

2002-11-06 Thread Don_Borowski
eee.org To:emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org cc: Subject:Re: Measuring AC Line Impedance I read in !emc-pstc that don_borow...@selinc.com wrote (in ) about 'Measuring AC Line Impedance' on Tue, 5 Nov 2002: >Part 1. This measurement will NOT give just the resistive part of the &g

Re: Measuring AC Line Impedance

2002-11-05 Thread John Woodgate
I read in !emc-pstc that don_borow...@selinc.com wrote (in ) about 'Measuring AC Line Impedance' on Tue, 5 Nov 2002: >Part 1. This measurement will NOT give just the resistive part of the >source impedance. Your post is so long that it is not clear what you are trying to corre

RE: Measuring AC Line Impedance

2002-11-05 Thread HALL,KEN (HP-Roseville,ex1)
Hello, UL emc in Northbrook has the capoability http://www.ul.com/emc/ Regards, Ken Hall -Original Message- From: robert.s...@flextronics.com [mailto:robert.s...@flextronics.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 10:16 AM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: RE: Measuring AC

RE: Measuring AC Line Impedance

2002-11-05 Thread Robert . Seay
Does anyone know of a source of test equipment, purchase or rental, or a test house on the US east coast that can perform the "click" test described in CISPR 14? Thanks, Robert Seay Flextronics Compliance Labs 762 Park Avenue Youngsville, NC 27596 --- Th

RE: Measuring AC Line Impedance

2002-11-05 Thread Don_Borowski
annot be solved. Don Borowski Schweitzer Engineering Labs Pullman, WA "Spencer, David H" @majordomo.ieee.org on 10/30/2002 08:57:00 AM Please respond to "Spencer, David H" Sent by:owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org To:emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org cc: Subject:

RE: Measuring AC Line Impedance

2002-10-31 Thread Ralph McDiarmid
...@jmwa.demon.co.uk] Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 11:30 AM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: Re: Measuring AC Line Impedance I read in !emc-pstc that Spencer, David H wrote (in <052106A55179D611B34300096BB02E3F8B94@USAMCMS4>) about 'Measuring AC Line Impedance' on Wed, 30 Oct 2002

Re: measuring AC line impedance (:-)

2002-10-31 Thread Ken Javor
I did that once. I had been measuring resistance and then needed to measure ac outlet potential, but forgot to change the meter knob position. Now I have a new meter. -- >From: "Ted Rook" >To: "<" >Subject: measuring AC line impedance (:-) >Date: Wed,

RE: Measuring AC Line Impedance

2002-10-30 Thread POWELL, DOUG
id H [mailto:david.spen...@usa.xerox.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 9:57 AM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: RE: Measuring AC Line Impedance Follow up Having just completed an ton of work on this using input I got around here (thanks to Don Borowski, Patrick Lawler,

Re: Measuring AC Line Impedance

2002-10-30 Thread John Woodgate
I read in !emc-pstc that Robert Macy wrote (in <000801c28045$01fc35c0$b7775142@robertmacy>) about 'Measuring AC Line Impedance' on Wed, 30 Oct 2002: >Do you have the liberty to share your report - or details and results with >the group? The results apply only to that par

Re: Measuring AC Line Impedance

2002-10-30 Thread John Woodgate
I read in !emc-pstc that Spencer, David H wrote (in <052106A55179D611B34300096BB02E3F8B94@USAMCMS4>) about 'Measuring AC Line Impedance' on Wed, 30 Oct 2002: >Any comments or input would be welcome. It's how I do it. It comes as a surprise to some people that the voltag

Re: Measuring AC Line Impedance

2002-10-30 Thread Robert Macy
, Suite 402 San Jose, CA 95112 - Original Message - From: "Spencer, David H" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 8:57 AM Subject: RE: Measuring AC Line Impedance > > Follow up > > Having just completed an ton of work on this us

RE: Measuring AC Line Impedance

2002-10-30 Thread Spencer, David H
mains. Any comments or input would be welcome. Thanks Regards David Spencer Xerox Corp. -Original Message- From: John Woodgate [mailto:j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk] Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 11:56 AM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: Re: Measuring AC Line Impedance I read in

Re: Re[2]: Measuring AC

1997-01-23 Thread Max
%> %> %> I suspect (but don't know for sure) that the accuracy of a transformer is %> the way it performs, relative to it's spec's, rather than relative to its %> history. That is, a _given_ transformer may be extremely accurate once %> calibrated, but the _initial_ accu

Rif: Re: Measuring AC Line Impedance

2002-11-06 Thread Paolo Peruzzi
& Product DevelopmentDesign Quality Control Via di Caciolle,15tel:+39.055.4229306 I- 50127 Florence fax:+39.055.4223305 e-mail: paolo.peru...@esaote.com I read in !emc-pstc that don_borow...@selinc.com wrote (in ) about 'Measuring AC Line Impe