RE: RF Power Amplifiers

2006-06-14 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Regards Tim _ From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Bill Owsley Sent: 13 June 2006 17:23 To: Grace Lin; Bob Richards Cc: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: Re: RF Power Amplifiers *** WARNING *** This mail has originated outside your organization, either from an external partner

Re: RF Power Amplifiers

2006-06-14 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
ah yes, that was part of the solution. But the selectivity was still a bit wide, so additional tech were needed. Bob Richards wrote: I'm not familiar with the specific test requirements for receivers, but the 1000-4-3 spec allows step sizes of 1% of the fundamental. If not required to do other

Re: RF Power Amplifiers

2006-06-14 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
As yes, it did require very arcane, exotic, and expensive, techniques for the test lab to solve this one. The DUT was meant to be dirt cheap and so could/would not put in the front end selectivity necessary to limit the exposure to a very narrowband. ps. the immunity requirement was quite a bit h

Re: RF Power Amplifiers

2006-06-14 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
ility Green)" List-Post: emc-pstc@listserv.ieee.org Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 08:46:46 +0100 To: "Bill Owsley" , "Grace Lin" , "Bob Richards" Cc: Subject: RE: RF Power Amplifiers Hi All, I think that there is something wrong in the set-up that you are using if th

RE: RF Power Amplifiers

2006-06-14 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
flat system or frequency selective field measurements will be needed. Regards Tim _ From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Bill Owsley Sent: 13 June 2006 17:23 To: Grace Lin; Bob Richards Cc: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: Re: RF Power Amplifiers *** WARNING ***

Re: RF Power Amplifiers

2006-06-13 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
In message , dated Tue, 13 Jun 2006, Ken Javor writes >A quick calculation will show that if an immunity requirement of 10 V/m >is imposed at 105 MHz on a 420 MHz tuned receiver with a sensitivity of >100 dBm, the harmonic content at 420 MHz needs to be on the order of >100 dB down from the ca

Re: RF Power Amplifiers

2006-06-13 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Richards List-Post: emc-pstc@listserv.ieee.org Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 10:25:50 -0700 (PDT) To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: Re: RF Power Amplifiers I'm not familiar with the specific test requirements for receivers, but the 1000-4-3 spec allows step sizes of 1% of the fundamental. If not req

Re: RF Power Amplifiers

2006-06-13 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
I'm not familiar with the specific test requirements for receivers, but the 1000-4-3 spec allows step sizes of 1% of the fundamental. If not required to do otherwise, I would arrange the test frequencies so the subharmonic frequencies are avoided, IOW, instead of testing at 105 MHz, test at 104.5 a

Re: RF Power Amplifiers

2006-06-13 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
which 420 MHz is out-of-band, let alone a broadband amplifier and antenna combination that covers (typically) 80 - 1000 MHz. From: Bill Owsley List-Post: emc-pstc@listserv.ieee.org Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 09:23:18 -0700 (PDT) To: Grace Lin , Bob Richards Cc: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: Re: RF

Re: RF Power Amplifiers

2006-06-13 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
The harmonic content mentioned adds quite a bit to the measured field strength. As the harmonics are filtered out (a lower level), the field strength drops, so the drive and/or output power is boosted to get the field strength back up, and the harmonic content rises faster than the fundamental, so

Re: RF Power Amplifiers

2006-06-12 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Dear All, Thank you very much for many members who has replied online and offline. I value your expert comments. So far, I have learned that antenna's VSWR, cable loss (at high frequency), and 80% AM modulation are the factors to count on. The new requirements from the third edition of IEC6100

Re: RF Power Amplifiers

2006-06-12 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Hello as all things said below, there is one more item to be added. The formula is right for the power deliver to the antenna terminal and the field probe sitting direct opposite the transmitting antenna with not influence due to the chamber and antenna polarisaton and free space conditons.

RE: RF Power Amplifiers

2006-06-11 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Mac, Yeah, good point, I forgot to mention that. The the old 15dB requirement may not be enough. At a lab where I used to work, we tested down to 26 MHz regularly. The difference in antenna factors between 26 and 52 MHz were terrible. When calibrating at 26 MHz at only 1/3 the rated power of th

RE: RF Power Amplifiers

2006-06-09 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
On Behalf Of Mowbray, John H Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 3:56 PM To: Grace Lin; emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: RE: RF Power Amplifiers Grace For the 80-100 range the power sounds about right, but be careful many amplifiers will ouptut reduced power if the VSWR at their output exceeds 2:1. For the ot

RE: RF Power Amplifiers

2006-06-09 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
: RF Power Amplifiers *** WARNING *** This mail has originated outside your organization, either from an external partner or the Global Internet. Keep this in mind if you answer this message. Grace For the 80-100 range the power sounds about right, but be careful many amplifiers will

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2006-06-08 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Grace For the 80-100 range the power sounds about right, but be careful many amplifiers will ouptut reduced power if the VSWR at their output exceeds 2:1. For the other ranges the 75 W should be more like 25-50 W, again depending on the amplifier and VSWR. The high frequency amplifier should be a

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2006-06-08 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Bob Richards wrote: List-Post: emc-pstc@listserv.ieee.org Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2006 13:34:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Richards Subject: Re: RF Power Amplifiers To: Grace Lin I don't believe that formula takes into account the need for 80% amplitude modulation. This will require 5.1dB (abou