I read in !emc-pstc that jsarell...@tuvam.com wrote (in 3187EE460C488A4
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Pressure/Power Levels', on Fri, 28 Sep 2001:
sound pressure level of 85kBA
That's almost as loud as the average pop concert! (;-)
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acknowledged in the
standards?
Perhaps because products that pass the tests, however minimal, prove
sufficiently immune in practice. I feel sure that if tested products
were falling over in the field in large numbers, there would be swift
moves to make the test more stringent.
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upon '950
What do you mean by a 'CDR'? And does 'pocket' mean that it is battery-
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for this purpose is polyethylene
terephthalate ('polyester') sheet, which is tough and has a high
dielectric strength. Wide-range distributors are not the best source for
this sort of material. Try a web search for 'polyester sheet';
http://www.krempel-group.com could be helpful, too.
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This may be down to the presenter, rather than to the question of
whether medical products require special safety standards (which they
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the standards, not a 'Technical File Route'
file). You then cite all the relevant standards in your DOC.
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Air release hole pitch: 45.000 mm
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clause 4.2.5. (50mm diameter, 500g)
Find a caravan and get your hacksaw.(;-) A metric towing ball is 50 mm
diameter. I'm not sure about the mass; I get 517 g for a mild steel
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exists, EN 55103-1/2.
The immunity part, EN 55103-2, does call up the 'manufacturer's stated
degradation' concept. In fact, it sets no limits at all, only test
conditions, but every test result has to be stated by the manufacturer.
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, a signal-to-interference ratio of 40 dB is pretty dismal in
the context of a hi-fi amplifier with a signal-to-noise ratio of 90 dB
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I think a lead- or borate-glass disc in front of the screen would be
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? 8 kV seems high for 1 inch tubes, anyway. The 1CP1 used
to require less than 1 kV, IIRC.
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replied to my post. The point about voice
alarm with central control is that instructions can be quickly changed
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I read in !emc-pstc that John Woodgate j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk wrote (in
lypxayanlap7e...@jmwa.demon.co.uk) about 'WTC - voice alarm system?',
on Mon, 17 Sep 2001:
Does anyone know **for certain** whether the WTC had a voice-alarm
system for emergency control, evacuation, etc.?
Someone has told me
Does anyone know **for certain** whether the WTC had a voice-alarm
system for emergency control, evacuation, etc.?
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The insurers of the boats might be a useful source of information on
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with UL during the audits (4 times a
year).
Am I right ?
The obvious thing to do is to ask UL. They may think that the local test
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be made available.
These are available for SOME amendments on the public part of the IEC
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experiences; and that's why
we see so many questions in the EMC-PSTC regarding standards
applicability. Some companies do care about the cost of that $75
standard.
I tend to compare the cost of the standard with the cost of the POS
material that is binned!
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Yes, if they are high-frequency ballasts.
(Maybe that's why holding it to the lights
sets it off.) But what about the hand waving? If I assume the ballasts
are giving off emissions, can I also assume that the human body can
change the local field pattern?
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applications. Electromagnetic compatibility. Fixed
installations.
What tests does it specify? What limits does it specify for tests?
What you are effectively asking for is the whole text of the standard.
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I read in !emc-pstc that wo...@sensormatic.com wrote (in 846BF526A205F8
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I forgot one - the Battery Directive applies to all batteries.
Anti-aircraft batteries? (;-)
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military (member of the EU).
Your customer has not told you what its EMC requirements are? It
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are just for
that, harmonics)
That's one of the problems. Filter capacitance values have to be so high
that their power-frequency current draw is not negligible, and don't
even THINK about the leakage current involved in attenuating common-mode
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that it does not cover any invasive technique.
Beauty salons are normally found in
shopping centres so could this imply some sort of light industrial
standard such as EN61010?
Absolutely NOT!
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you have test results to illustrate it?
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) that in someway guarantees that any
EFTs and Surge voltages are dealt with satisfactorily i.e. not coupled
through?
Simply that it conforms either to the product standard applicable to
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tell us what standard they propose to test to. I hope
it's not EN60950!
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rated ac-dc
converter I can find is 3500v RMS continuous.
Complain to the converter manufacturers that you can't buy their product
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standards: there are notes and cross-references that can put a specific
and counter-intuitive meaning on to some texts. Posting accurate and
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private LV supply and you only need to meet
IEC/EN61000-3-6 guidelines at the MV or HV terminals.
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do are two potentially very different things!
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emission performed on an EUT
placed on an 80 CM table with or without a vertical wall 40 CM from the rear
of the EUT.
That may depend on the type of EUT - unless you have tested
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. In this case, it is now the practice not to do a hi-pot test
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the fancy
certificates and the permission to use the marks.
TUV (either species) has never, AIUI, been anything other than a
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Macintosh computers:
1. 733 Mhz Power Mac G4
2. 867 Mhz Power Mac G4
3. Dual 800 MHz Power Mac G4
You really should ask Apple for these, especially Apple, who, IMHO, are
rather meticulous about formal procedures.
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a report and
maybe an expensive certificate and grant permission, in return for more
money, to apply a glamorous sticker to the product.
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, Leakage ) are not required by the
standards but by the third party certification agencies.
No, they are written into IEC standards now. I don't know about UL and
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(Hydro Quebec is an exception), whereas in Europe they do
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due to over-voltage. Unfortunately, the
European supply industry only cites extreme cases (like a 1MW motor!),
and then only grudgingly.
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Community is
adopting the American Energy Star Program? -- Albeit rendered in
their own language!
No-one knows why the EC does anything. (;-)
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, the Generic Standards, EN50081-1 and EN50082-1 apply,
unless the product is intended for use in (heavy) industrial premises.
Safety is more problematical. There ought to be a specific EN safety
standard for such products but I don't think there is.
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* experience of volume production.
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I don't understand the drive for EN 61000-3-3.
See my comments about voltage change tolerance in my other post.
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as your ITE product
does.
AFAIK this is specified in EN55022 - full rated load. You can add
resistive load if the power supply is under-run in the configuration
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. A switchboard assembly for
electric power control (just switches, fuses, circuit breakers and
meters) is one of the few cases where it is.
You must re-test the whole product, unless you can show on technical
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that precisely?
In Europe, the limits are specified in dB(uV/m), but no-one has been
daft enough to propose limits like 53.9790009... dB(uV/m).
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to be EN55014-1-and -2] apply.'
and the complete device
is subject to EN55014-2. I guess one could argue that it is sufficient to
reference EN 55014-1 and EN55022 on the DoC instead of EN 50081-1. Either
way works for me since EN 50081-1 just points to the other documents.
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precedence over generic standards.
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or power rating of the charger. If it is
less than 75 W, it is deemed to conform with EN61000-3-2. Above 75 W,
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or would one need to obtain it from a Notified Body located
in the EU?
10.5 is deleted in 'favour' of the RTTE Directive, isn't it?
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They are not on the phone. (;-)
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if this
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There is no frequency allocation around 100 MHz for such devices in
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the
component side has too great a skyline to give good results.
Not these days! Anything more than 5 mm tall and the product won't fit
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I agree with most of the rest of your comments.
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an amplifier and detector to one pixel of a backlit
LCD screen. Suitable optics then create a virtual image for each eye to
see. Anyone want to have a go? (;-)
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of this Directive. When this term, Community territory, is used in this
guide, it is meant the EEA territory..
Yes, in spite of the Euro-English, that is valid. BUT the
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unfeasible.
The problem is the poor resolution, even a microwave frequencies, due to
the wavelength of the emission. At 150 kHz, the wavelength is 2 km, so
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distributed 10x of the crystal
to other chips, 10x was the number. If the multiplier was purely internal
to a part like a lot of CPUs and display chips, the crystal frequency was
the highest.
What about the emissions from the LEDs? (;-)
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FCC 2.1057 is about radiated emission. They say :If the equipment
operates below 10GHz: to the tenth harmonic of the highest fundamental
frequency or to 40 GHz, whichever is lower.
UNQUOTE
Pale administrative face speak with forked tongue! (;-)
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British (Mazda) valves with B8A bases.
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1d0833cb3b1d7244b617a0dc8399c27e01c19...@vega.corp.es.com,
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I'm looking for contact information for a company named Rendar in England
or for their rep or distributor in the U.S.
Neutrik (USA), I think.
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is that the result depends on the repetition rate, which
is not specified in the standard, so that the test results are not
repeatable?
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with the previous all-printed designs.
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sb69402e@accusort.com, Terry Meck tjm...@accusort.com inimitably
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You can't change the facts. So yes! In the Middle to late 50's. :-)
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I saw the first
covered in IEC 61140. It should be the responsibility
of a truly 'horizontal' committee, not a product committee with
'horizontal' ambitions.
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