Re: [Emc-users] power supplies

2012-11-21 Thread Peter Blodow
Gene Heskett schrieb: /snip/ > But I wanted something at about 40 volts for the lathe & wound up making an > unregulated linear for 10% of the cost of a switcher at the time. Loaded > up, its doing about 37 volts so I missed my target, but it gets the job > done, moving the lathe at very good

Re: [Emc-users] VFD input

2012-11-21 Thread Steve Stallings
A well designed rotary converter can help some with providing usable 3 phase to a VFD, but a static converter is useless because, unlike an actual motor, the VFD has no inductance to work with for phase shifting. Steve Stallings > -Original Message- > From: Kirk Wallace [mailto:kwall..

Re: [Emc-users] VFD input

2012-11-21 Thread Przemek Klosowski
On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 2:37 AM, Claude Froidevaux wrote: > If you put neutral on terminal L1 and phase on terminal 2 and 3, it > will simply parallel 2 leg of the rectifier, this will change nothing. > Well, my original idea assumed that the 3phase input would have the Y / wye configuration, so

[Emc-users] Spindle position, direction and Index with only one channel.

2012-11-21 Thread andy pugh
I have a rather interesting datasheet from Allegro. They have a sensor that detects either a magneic codewheel, or a gear tooth (with a biasing magnet behind the sensor). The neat part is that the pulse width is 45uS in one direction, and 90uS in the other. It is intended for crankshaft sensing, wh

Re: [Emc-users] VFD input

2012-11-21 Thread Claude Froidevaux
As much as I know, all VFD are 3 phases connected (without central connection available) (some are only 2 phases, but there is still a full bridge rectifier) The scheme you wanted to use will make a doubling of the voltage, most probably killing the VFD (about 640Vdc on the bus if main line is

Re: [Emc-users] power supplies

2012-11-21 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 21 November 2012 15:46:42 Peter Blodow did opine: > Gene Heskett schrieb: > > /snip/ > > > But I wanted something at about 40 volts for the lathe & wound up > > making an unregulated linear for 10% of the cost of a switcher at the > > time. Loaded up, its doing about 37 volts so I

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle position, direction and Index with only one channel.

2012-11-21 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 21 November 2012 16:05:50 andy pugh did opine: > I have a rather interesting datasheet from Allegro. They have a sensor > that detects either a magneic codewheel, or a gear tooth (with a > biasing magnet behind the sensor). > The neat part is that the pulse width is 45uS in one direct

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle position, direction and Index with only one channel.

2012-11-21 Thread Ray Mitchell
I have used these on a competition robot before. They were set up to detect sprocket teeth. Worked great until the mount got a little loose, then it got ground to dust (the magic smoke leaked out at that point). Ray --J. Ray Mitchell Jr. jrmitche...@gmail.com (818)324-7573 A foolish faith in au

[Emc-users] How to install custom kinematics module in sim-only LinuxCNC

2012-11-21 Thread Viesturs Lācis
Hello! I have Ubuntu 12.04 on my laptop and I have LinuxCNC 2.5.1-33-g03be66a sim-only package installed. What I am not sure about is - how am I supposed to install my kinematics module in this case? Is it the same way as usually - install linuxcnc-dev package, get source from git and then "sudo

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle position, direction and Index with only one channel.

2012-11-21 Thread andy pugh
On 21 November 2012 21:10, Gene Heskett wrote: > A 100mm wheel is a bit large for my small lathe, but probably fine for the > 9" and up stuff, and if its quadrature direction sensing too, or 2 sensors > could be made so, then it sounds like something that would be a heck of a > lot less fuss to i

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle position, direction and Index with only one channel.

2012-11-21 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 21 November 2012 17:49:39 andy pugh did opine: > On 21 November 2012 21:10, Gene Heskett wrote: > > A 100mm wheel is a bit large for my small lathe, but probably fine for > > the 9" and up stuff, and if its quadrature direction sensing too, or > > 2 sensors could be made so, then it

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle position, direction and Index with only one channel.

2012-11-21 Thread andy pugh
On 21 November 2012 22:57, Gene Heskett wrote: > Ahh, so. Do you have a link so we are on the same page with our thinking? http://www.allegromicro.com/en/Products/Magnetic-Speed-Sensor-ICs/Transmission-Sensor-ICs/ATS692.aspx > Am I to understand that turning one way its a 90 degree duty cycle

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle position, direction and Index with only one channel.

2012-11-21 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 21 November 2012 18:41:41 andy pugh did opine: > On 21 November 2012 22:57, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Ahh, so. Do you have a link so we are on the same page with our > > thinking? > > http://www.allegromicro.com/en/Products/Magnetic-Speed-Sensor-ICs/Transm > ission-Sensor-ICs/ATS692.

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle position, direction and Index with only one channel.

2012-11-21 Thread andy pugh
On 21 November 2012 23:53, Gene Heskett wrote: > And I am thinking that an index for that could be obtained by drilling a 2 > or 3mm hole in the added disk and setting a 2nd such device to sense the > hole going by. I think it makes sense to do index the same way as engines do, just have a short

Re: [Emc-users] 0-10V spindle control via Mesa 7i33

2012-11-21 Thread Scott Hasse
I've finally been able to circle back to this, thanks for the feedback. I do use pncconf and have the spindle display selected with encoder feedback, but it looks to me like the filtered and abs signals are from the encoder feedback input rather than the motion command output and so not suitable f

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle position, direction and Index with only one channel.

2012-11-21 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 21 November 2012 21:30:14 andy pugh did opine: > On 21 November 2012 23:53, Gene Heskett wrote: > > And I am thinking that an index for that could be obtained by drilling > > a 2 or 3mm hole in the added disk and setting a 2nd such device to > > sense the hole going by. > > I think

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle position, direction and Index with only one channel.

2012-11-21 Thread Jon Elson
andy pugh wrote: > I have a rather interesting datasheet from Allegro. They have a sensor > that detects either a magneic codewheel, or a gear tooth (with a > biasing magnet behind the sensor). > The neat part is that the pulse width is 45uS in one direction, and > 90uS in the other. > It is intend

Re: [Emc-users] 0-10V spindle control via Mesa 7i33

2012-11-21 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 21 November 2012 21:33:16 Scott Hasse did opine: > I've finally been able to circle back to this, thanks for the feedback. > I do use pncconf and have the spindle display selected with encoder > feedback, but it looks to me like the filtered and abs signals are from > the encoder fee

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle position, direction and Index with only one channel.

2012-11-21 Thread Jon Elson
Gene Heskett wrote: > A 100mm wheel is a bit large for my small lathe, but probably fine for the > 9" and up stuff, and if its quadrature direction sensing too, or 2 sensors > could be made so, then it sounds like something that would be a heck of a > lot less fuss to install & make work. IOW,

Re: [Emc-users] power supplies

2012-11-21 Thread cogoman
On 11/20/2012 11:28 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > But I wanted something at about 40 volts for the lathe & wound up making an > unregulated linear for 10% of the cost of a switcher at the time. Loaded > up, its doing about 37 volts so I missed my target, but it gets the job > done, moving the lathe at

Re: [Emc-users] power supplies

2012-11-21 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 22 November 2012 01:07:50 cogoman did opine: > On 11/20/2012 11:28 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > But I wanted something at about 40 volts for the lathe & wound up > > making an unregulated linear for 10% of the cost of a switcher at the > > time. Loaded up, its doing about 37 volts so I