Re: [Emc-users] Equipment I just got for free.

2013-03-25 Thread Gregg Eshelman
--- On Sun, 3/24/13, Matt Shaver m...@mattshaver.com wrote: Post a bunch of pictures somewhere of your Anilam Bridgeport, especially of the electrical guts. With that, we can tell you a lot more about what to do! It's not mine yet. Still trying to get the guy to see that as it sits, it's not

Re: [Emc-users] emulation software

2013-03-25 Thread Kent Reed
On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 12:19 AM, Greg Bernard yankeelena2...@yahoo.comwrote: Do any of you guys have a recommendation for Windows emulation software? WINE has worked welll for most of my applications but now I've started using Rhinocad which won't run on WINE. From what I can tell Virtualbox

Re: [Emc-users] Cable drive for a gas torch pattern follower?

2013-03-25 Thread andy pugh
On 25 March 2013 05:45, Dave e...@dc9.tzo.com wrote: They abandoned that design in favor of a more conventional CNC design. I think you would be smart in doing the same. I wonder if they abandoned it because they didn't have LinuxCNC kins? Having said that, it does seem that by the time you

Re: [Emc-users] emulation software

2013-03-25 Thread Gregg Eshelman
You'll get best performance with a host environment software that supports hardware virtualization. To use virtualization, your computer must have support for it in its hardware, specifically a dual (or more) core CPU with virtualization support. Virtualization can provide the guest OS access

Re: [Emc-users] Emc-users Digest, Vol 83, Issue 50

2013-03-25 Thread Roberto Sassoli
Il 25/03/2013 00:31, emc-users-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net ha scritto: Message: 7 Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2013 16:22:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Peter C. Wallacep...@mesanet.com Note: the Encoder is always needed, as is enable unless you have special provisions to disable drive when PWM is not

Re: [Emc-users] emulation software

2013-03-25 Thread andy pugh
On 25 March 2013 04:19, Greg Bernard yankeelena2...@yahoo.com wrote: From what I can tell Virtualbox and VMware are the most popular choices but I'd like to hear other peoples experience before I dive in. I run both Windows and Linux on my Mac under VMware. I use Windows to run AutoDesk

Re: [Emc-users] Equipment I just got for free.

2013-03-25 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 25 March 2013 06:56:28 Gregg Eshelman did opine: --- On Sun, 3/24/13, Matt Shaver m...@mattshaver.com wrote: Post a bunch of pictures somewhere of your Anilam Bridgeport, especially of the electrical guts. With that, we can tell you a lot more about what to do! It's not mine

Re: [Emc-users] Latency

2013-03-25 Thread Anders Wallin
On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 2:36 AM, Dave e...@dc9.tzo.com wrote: Has anyone tried running the latency test on the Intel H61, H77, or Z77 design motherboards using a CPU with the integrated HD graphics? Intel DH61AG + i3 2120T 2.6 GHz LGA1155

Re: [Emc-users] Latency problem

2013-03-25 Thread Bjørn
Am 20.03.2013 um 08:48 schrieb Bj?rn: I bougt this. http://www.ebay.com/itm/200542103383?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649 running the latest version of linuxcnc. specifically which version? I have a D525MW and get much better results Hypertreading off in bios, ISOLCPU is

Re: [Emc-users] Equipment I just got for free.

2013-03-25 Thread Matt Shaver
On Mon, 25 Mar 2013 00:57:58 -0700 (PDT) Gregg Eshelman g_ala...@yahoo.com wrote: I'm leaning more towards a full electronic update and selling the remaining bits of the old Anilam system. Those DC brush type servos are bloody expensive, the Baldor brand even moreso. Another thing making an

Re: [Emc-users] Latency

2013-03-25 Thread Dave
Unless I am reading that incorrectly, that appears to be fine for a 1 ms servo thread, but would not work well for direct stepper control. The D525MW boards are really nice. I have used a lot of them over the last year plus and I have a bit of stockpile built up right now, but the Intel 525

Re: [Emc-users] Latency

2013-03-25 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Mon, 25 Mar 2013, Dave wrote: Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2013 11:01:45 -0500 From: Dave e...@dc9.tzo.com Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Latency Unless

Re: [Emc-users] Cable drive for a gas torch pattern follower?

2013-03-25 Thread Dave
I don't know if you have seen the Torchmate version or not before but here are some similar picts and discussion. http://www.cnczone.com/forums/cnc_plasma_waterjet_machines/31685-cnc_retrofit_heath_torchmate_upright_magnetic_follower_shape_cutter.html The Torchmate I remember was only big

Re: [Emc-users] Cable drive for a gas torch pattern follower?

2013-03-25 Thread Dave
I just noticed that Torchmate is now part of Lincoln Electric (a big welder manufacturer in the US). Dave On 3/25/2013 4:55 AM, andy pugh wrote: On 25 March 2013 05:45, Davee...@dc9.tzo.com wrote: They abandoned that design in favor of a more conventional CNC design. I think you would

Re: [Emc-users] Equipment I just got for free.

2013-03-25 Thread Stan
I would do the update, who knows if the old even works with a whole new update to the control system you know what you have and can update and upgrade at will old iron like that should never die unless broken by extreme abuse, like dropping it or running into it with a fork lift or something

Re: [Emc-users] Cable drive for a gas torch pattern follower?

2013-03-25 Thread andy pugh
This would probably work in a bipod conficuration, with just a pair of springs on the hinges to extend the arm. Like this device: http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Koppi's_Toy With gravity replaced by springs. -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto

Re: [Emc-users] Latency

2013-03-25 Thread Luis Bellot
I'm running the linuxCNC in a P8H61-M LX motherboard with a 6i25 mesa card toghether a 7i77 to control a 3 servo motor machine without big latency problems the average is: Max Jitter servo thread 8840 and base thread 9177 ms. But I always get a very bad result when plug some usb devices like

Re: [Emc-users] emulation software

2013-03-25 Thread Jon Elson
Greg Bernard wrote: Do any of you guys have a recommendation for Windows emulation software? WINE has worked welll for most of my applications but now I've started using Rhinocad which won't run on WINE. From what I can tell Virtualbox and VMware are the most popular choices but I'd like

Re: [Emc-users] emulation software

2013-03-25 Thread Luis Bellot
I use to work with VirtualBox in my Linux workstation to run Windows XP without problems. I had no tried to work with high demanding graphics applications but I think that they must work fine, (may be little slow). The old versions of Rinho work without problems in my virtual machine. Also I'm

Re: [Emc-users] 3PWM on 7i43 MESA board

2013-03-25 Thread Roberto Sassoli
Il 25/03/2013 00:31, emc-users-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net ha scritto: Message: 7 Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2013 16:22:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Peter C. Wallacep...@mesanet.com Note: the Encoder is always needed, as is enable unless you have special provisions to disable drive when PWM is not

Re: [Emc-users] Latency

2013-03-25 Thread Dave
I missed that board and the other integrated Celeron boards.Thanks for pointing those out. Let us know what you find. That Gigabyte board has a lot to like. What AMD MITX boards are known to work well? Dave I think I'll order this one to try out today:

Re: [Emc-users] Latency

2013-03-25 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Mon, 25 Mar 2013, Dave wrote: Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2013 13:52:28 -0500 From: Dave e...@dc9.tzo.com Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Latency I missed that board and the other

Re: [Emc-users] Latency problem

2013-03-25 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 3/25/2013 9:56 AM, Bjørn wrote: snipping off previous discussion now i have tested: boot with isolcpu(big improvement in general latency but still spikes) turn of smi, (improvement in general latency but still spikes) 'idle=poll' and 'nohlt'(little or no effect) acpi = off and api=off

Re: [Emc-users] OT: printer toner

2013-03-25 Thread Viesturs Lācis
Thank You, guys, for advice! 2013/3/25 Steve Blackmore st...@pilotltd.net: On average you will get 2 or three refills before the drum is shot anyway and you need a new cartridge. Is there any place, where I can read more about this? -- Viesturs If you can't fix it, you don't own it.

Re: [Emc-users] Cable drive for a gas torch pattern follower?

2013-03-25 Thread Jack Coats
Yes is the short answer. From some of the other answers you can get details. The only real question comes in can you use canned kenimatics or are custom ones required. Even modifying canned ones isn't to hard and this group can always be available for consistance. On Mar 24, 2013 2:11 AM,

Re: [Emc-users] Equipment I just got for free.

2013-03-25 Thread Gregg Eshelman
--- On Mon, 3/25/13, Matt Shaver m...@mattshaver.com wrote: From: Matt Shaver m...@mattshaver.com Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Equipment I just got for free. To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Date: Monday, March 25, 2013, 8:16 AM On Mon, 25 Mar 2013 00:57:58 -0700 (PDT) Gregg Eshelman

Re: [Emc-users] Cable drive for a gas torch pattern follower?

2013-03-25 Thread jeremy youngs
On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 12:34 PM, andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote: This would probably work in a bipod conficuration, with just a pair of springs on the hinges to extend the arm. Like this device: http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Koppi's_Toy With gravity replaced by springs. or

Re: [Emc-users] Cable drive for a gas torch pattern follower?

2013-03-25 Thread Gregg Eshelman
--- On Mon, 3/25/13, Dave e...@dc9.tzo.com wrote: From: Dave e...@dc9.tzo.com Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Cable drive for a gas torch pattern follower? To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Date: Monday, March 25, 2013, 10:40 AM I don't know if you have seen the Torchmate version or not before

Re: [Emc-users] Cable drive for a gas torch pattern follower?

2013-03-25 Thread andy pugh
On 25 March 2013 22:25, jeremy youngs jcyoung...@gmail.com wrote: or cable attached weight so as to have constant tension , my thought is how to maintain spool diameter on the steppers? as cable winds up then the diameter increases unless a capstan of some sort is utilized, There is a nicely

Re: [Emc-users] Cable drive for a gas torch pattern follower?

2013-03-25 Thread Gregg Eshelman
--- On Mon, 3/25/13, jeremy youngs jcyoung...@gmail.com wrote: or cable attached weight so as to have constant tension , my thought is how to maintain spool diameter on the steppers? as cable winds up then the diameter increases unless a capstan of some sort is utilized, Lots of ways to do

Re: [Emc-users] Cable drive for a gas torch pattern follower?

2013-03-25 Thread jeremy youngs
I guess the real question is then are you going to do it? if so will you post your results ? i would like to see them i think this could be a very inexpensive solution using small steppere and 1/8 in cable a few scraps lying around and presto a simple plasma cutter :) -- jeremy youngs

[Emc-users] Gigabyte GA-E350N Latency numbers

2013-03-25 Thread James Boulton
Hi all, I have run the latency test for a Gigabyte GA-350N motherboard. On first boot (ran with glxgears and updating 140 add packages through the system updates): Servo thread Max: 11411ns Base thread Max: 10233ns After turning off power/thermal control in the bios and inserting isolcpus=1:

Re: [Emc-users] Cable drive for a gas torch pattern follower?

2013-03-25 Thread Gregg Eshelman
--- On Mon, 3/25/13, jeremy youngs jcyoung...@gmail.com wrote: I guess the real question is then are you going to do it? if so will you post your results ? i would like to see them i think this could be a very inexpensive solution using small steppere and 1/8 in cable a few scraps lying

Re: [Emc-users] Cable drive for a gas torch pattern follower?

2013-03-25 Thread andy pugh
On 26 March 2013 00:48, Gregg Eshelman g_ala...@yahoo.com wrote: Now I'm thinking it needs a semi-active tension system using a computer controlled 3rd motor but with a spring so it doesn't have to be super precise You could just run a DC or brushless motor at a constant current on the third

Re: [Emc-users] Cable drive for a gas torch pattern follower?

2013-03-25 Thread jeremy youngs
http://www.ebay.com/itm/3Axis-Nema-23-Stepper-Motor-425oz-in-CNC-Mill-Controller-SD-2H044MA-driver-/130835449799?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item1e766687c7 i like the idea of using a capstan with offsetting weight , if you use 2 motors for x,y then use the same weight in tension the motors will

Re: [Emc-users] Cable drive for a gas torch pattern follower?

2013-03-25 Thread Todd Zuercher
How about just using some air cylinders to pull your counter balance cables. - Original Message - On 26 March 2013 00:48, Gregg Eshelman g_ala...@yahoo.com wrote: Now I'm thinking it needs a semi-active tension system using a computer controlled 3rd motor but with a spring so it

Re: [Emc-users] Cable drive for a gas torch pattern follower?

2013-03-25 Thread andy pugh
On 26 March 2013 00:59, jeremy youngs jcyoung...@gmail.com wrote: i like the idea of using a capstan with offsetting weight , if you use 2 motors for x,y then use the same weight in tension the motors will see nothing but frictional resistance . If your capstan is sufficently large you

Re: [Emc-users] Cable drive for a gas torch pattern follower?

2013-03-25 Thread andy pugh
On 26 March 2013 01:07, Todd Zuercher zuerc...@embarqmail.com wrote: How about just using some air cylinders to pull your counter balance cables. That would work, and with a set of pulleys (like a 4:1 block-and-tackle) the travel could be only a fraction of the total string

Re: [Emc-users] Cable drive for a gas torch pattern follower?

2013-03-25 Thread jeremy youngs
Andy said I am not sure you will see good acceleration. In fact, it is always going to be less than 1g. This is because for any faster acceleration the strings go slack as the weighs don't fall fast enough. jeremy bounces head of keyboard realizes his stupidity and pays homa ge :) whats that

Re: [Emc-users] Cable drive for a gas torch pattern follower?

2013-03-25 Thread Gregg Eshelman
--- On Mon, 3/25/13, andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote: I am not sure you will see good acceleration. In fact, it is always going to be less than 1g. This is because for any faster acceleration the strings go slack as the weighs don't fall fast enough. No need to go anywhere near that fast