Re: [Emc-users] How about the core[X,Y] drive?

2013-04-15 Thread Steve Blackmore
On Mon, 15 Apr 2013 20:17:29 -0400, you wrote: >But on my small lathe, how would one go about putting tool offsets into the >tool.tbl that mean something when in changing a tool, the stickout its >clamped up at is effectively completely random give or take 1 cm or so? > >To me, it makes 100x as

Re: [Emc-users] KUKA!!

2013-04-15 Thread Gregg Eshelman
--- On Mon, 4/15/13, a k wrote: > From: a k > Subject: [Emc-users] KUKA!! > To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > Date: Monday, April 15, 2013, 9:45 PM > Hi > here is interesting use of CNC > http://www.youtube.com/user/KukaRobotGroup All that high tech and near the end a guy is demonstrat

[Emc-users] KUKA!!

2013-04-15 Thread a k
Hi here is interesting use of CNC http://www.youtube.com/user/KukaRobotGroup I can see that use standard frame of CNC mill with 3 linear and 2 rotational axis is very old. All rotational robot like KUKA can have more use. about commerce and EMC2, i think if one will take standard EMC2 and and add

Re: [Emc-users] How about the core[X,Y] drive?

2013-04-15 Thread Gregg Eshelman
This is a diagram of what I'd like to do on the torch, inspired by skycam video of a NASCAR race. http://www.partsbyemc.com/pub/pattern-torch.jpg Replace .jpg with .psd for a version with pieces you can move around. Pretty simple mechanically, but on the software end nobody's done much for a s

Re: [Emc-users] How about the core[X,Y] drive?

2013-04-15 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 15 April 2013 21:05:25 Gregg Eshelman did opine: > How about a couple of scripts that launch LinuxCNC in various ways, > including one that nukes the troublesome files first? Precisely what is running in my mind too, but I need to find my round tuit. And my weed eater... I bought a s

Re: [Emc-users] How about the core[X,Y] drive?

2013-04-15 Thread Gregg Eshelman
I'm thinking diagram 4 with the engagement to the torch arm on the bottom and cable cross on top, all mounted to a tip up frame would be easiest to build. http://www.corexy.com/theory.html Here's that no-slip drive cable http://sdp-si.com/web/html/newprdbelts6.htm --

Re: [Emc-users] How about the core[X,Y] drive?

2013-04-15 Thread Gregg Eshelman
Another thing complicating CNC on a pattern torch (like this onehttp://www.hellotrade.com/esab-usa/ultra-graph-single-torch-pattern-cutter.html ) is the maximum work envelope the arm can reach isn't a quadrilateral. As the arm end gets close to the column the range of motion is very restricted

Re: [Emc-users] How about the core[X,Y] drive?

2013-04-15 Thread Gregg Eshelman
How about a couple of scripts that launch LinuxCNC in various ways, including one that nukes the troublesome files first? Should be able to have some scripts create or copy those files from another location so you could have many different setups with a single install of the software. --- On M

Re: [Emc-users] How about the core[X,Y] drive?

2013-04-15 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 15 April 2013 19:57:21 andy pugh did opine: > On 15 April 2013 19:28, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Is there a valid reason for the current, save the offsets behavior? > > Because that is what works best for a conventional homing where the > switches are on the axis. Turn on the machine, hom

Re: [Emc-users] How about the core[X,Y] drive?

2013-04-15 Thread Gregg Eshelman
--- On Mon, 4/15/13, jeremy youngs wrote: > From: jeremy youngs > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] How about the core[X,Y] drive? > To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > Date: Monday, April 15, 2013, 11:53 AM > on the torch head , touch off in a > corner on 2 pads run 5 v to torch head > and a debo

Re: [Emc-users] How about the core[X,Y] drive?

2013-04-15 Thread Gregg Eshelman
--- On Mon, 4/15/13, Viesturs Lācis wrote: > Hmm, it is not the first time I see links to that Russian > forum and with > every time I get stronger and stronger impression that those > LinuxCNC users > that hang out there is a completely separate community... > > Anyway, I just cannot figure out

Re: [Emc-users] How about the core[X,Y] drive?

2013-04-15 Thread Gregg Eshelman
--- On Mon, 4/15/13, Eric Keller wrote: > I have a plotter that was built like this using wire as the > drive.  It was > pretty neat, but the wire got messed up and then it was a > pain to drive > it.  Always thought it was a good idea, but a little > weak There's cable with a spiral of somethin

Re: [Emc-users] How about the core[X,Y] drive?

2013-04-15 Thread Gregg Eshelman
--- On Mon, 4/15/13, andy pugh wrote: > On 15 April 2013 11:00, Gregg > Eshelman > wrote: > > Does LinuxCNC have H-bot support? CoreXY should drive > identically. > > Not built-in, but: > http://www.linuxcnc.org/index.php/english/forum/38-general-linuxcnc-questions/26302-cnc-avec-systeme-h-bot

Re: [Emc-users] gantrykins shenanigans

2013-04-15 Thread andy pugh
On 15 April 2013 21:42, Chris Kelley wrote: > Also, is there a guide written somewhere on how to get the JA3 branch (I've > never used anything but the version on the live CDs). > > I tried googling, but I may not be saering for the right stuff. http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Installin

Re: [Emc-users] gantrykins shenanigans

2013-04-15 Thread Chris Kelley
Andy, thanks for the help. Is the joint mapping for gentrivkins the same as for gantrykins for slaving joints/homing? Also, is there a guide written somewhere on how to get the JA3 branch (I've never used anything but the version on the live CDs). I tried googling, but I may not be saering for t

Re: [Emc-users] gantrykins shenanigans

2013-04-15 Thread andy pugh
On 15 April 2013 20:15, Chris Kelley wrote: > Is there a way to make gantrykins actually obey the limits set in the .ini > file? I think it is a "feature". Gantrykins seems to cause more problems than it solves. You could try running the JA3 branch and the new "gentrivkins" which is intended fo

Re: [Emc-users] How about the core[X,Y] drive?

2013-04-15 Thread andy pugh
On 15 April 2013 19:28, Gene Heskett wrote: > Is there a valid reason for the current, save the offsets behavior? Because that is what works best for a conventional homing where the switches are on the axis. Turn on the machine, home, and you are right back where you were the previous time. You

[Emc-users] gantrykins shenanigans

2013-04-15 Thread Chris Kelley
I have a plasma table that I converted over from Torchmate control (that system sucked) to LinuxCNC with a Mesa 5i25/7i76 and dual motors on the gantry (X-axis). I have gantrykins set up correctly (as far as I know). Homing and jogging, in joint mode work as expected. However, when jogging in worl

Re: [Emc-users] How about the core[X,Y] drive?

2013-04-15 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 15 April 2013 15:09:03 jeremy youngs did opine: > yeah im kinda fond of the old man myself :) Chuckle, next thing I know I'd better stock up on suds in case you all come to visit. ;-) > On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 2:42 PM, sam sokolik wrote: > > Thanks :) > > > > love you > > sam > >

Re: [Emc-users] How about the core[X,Y] drive?

2013-04-15 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 15 April 2013 14:55:39 sam sokolik did opine: > Thanks :) > > love you > sam Thanks Sam, I like the flowers but what brought that on? There are probably 200+ people here who _could_ write a similar tome that described their particular hardware (miss-)configurations. :) OTOH, I am

Re: [Emc-users] How about the core[X,Y] drive?

2013-04-15 Thread jeremy youngs
I agree with Todd that some marker on a belt would be best, but only thing I can come up with is to draw some line or something and then try to optically read it. well that is how fadal always did it bur they didnt have a way to read it the operator just eyeballed it . On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 2:

Re: [Emc-users] How about the core[X,Y] drive?

2013-04-15 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2013/4/15 jeremy youngs > right but i dont see why automated homing would be excluded . just using > the panels as the touch off instead of homing switches > pretty simple no? > No, because to move torch (or whatever instrument) along X, both joints have to turn in opposite directions, but for m

Re: [Emc-users] How about the core[X,Y] drive?

2013-04-15 Thread jeremy youngs
even more so for me now :) On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 2:48 PM, jeremy youngs wrote: > yeah im kinda fond of the old man myself :) > > > On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 2:42 PM, sam sokolik wrote: > >> Thanks :) >> >> love you >> sam >> On 4/15/2013 1:28 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: >> > On Monday 15 April 201

Re: [Emc-users] How about the core[X,Y] drive?

2013-04-15 Thread jeremy youngs
yeah im kinda fond of the old man myself :) On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 2:42 PM, sam sokolik wrote: > Thanks :) > > love you > sam > On 4/15/2013 1:28 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Monday 15 April 2013 13:22:31 Viesturs Lācis did opine: > > > >> 2013/4/15 andy pugh > >> > >>> On 15 April 2013 11

Re: [Emc-users] How about the core[X,Y] drive?

2013-04-15 Thread sam sokolik
heh - Sorry. replied to wrong email.. oops (Boy that could have been really embarrassing...) sam On 4/15/2013 1:28 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Monday 15 April 2013 13:22:31 Viesturs Lācis did opine: > >> 2013/4/15 andy pugh >> >>> On 15 April 2013 11:00, Gregg Eshelman wrote: The cross

Re: [Emc-users] How about the core[X,Y] drive?

2013-04-15 Thread sam sokolik
Thanks :) love you sam On 4/15/2013 1:28 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Monday 15 April 2013 13:22:31 Viesturs Lācis did opine: > >> 2013/4/15 andy pugh >> >>> On 15 April 2013 11:00, Gregg Eshelman wrote: The crossover counters any offset push at one end of the gantry with an >>> equal

Re: [Emc-users] How about the core[X,Y] drive?

2013-04-15 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 15 April 2013 13:22:31 Viesturs Lācis did opine: > 2013/4/15 andy pugh > > > On 15 April 2013 11:00, Gregg Eshelman wrote: > > > The crossover counters any offset push at one end of the gantry with > > > an > > > > equal pull in the same direction at the opposite end. The theory page

Re: [Emc-users] How about the core[X,Y] drive?

2013-04-15 Thread jeremy youngs
right but i dont see why automated homing would be excluded . just using the panels as the touch off instead of homing switches pretty simple no? On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 2:04 PM, Viesturs Lācis wrote: > 2013/4/15 jeremy youngs > > > on the torch head , touch off in a corner on 2 pads run 5 v to

Re: [Emc-users] How about the core[X,Y] drive?

2013-04-15 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2013/4/15 jeremy youngs > on the torch head , touch off in a corner on 2 pads run 5 v to torch head > and a debounce buffer then just touch off . should be more than sufficent > for a plasma table , if a thc is used could just use the touch off pin > output no?? Well, if I understand Your corr

Re: [Emc-users] How about the core[X,Y] drive?

2013-04-15 Thread jeremy youngs
on the torch head , touch off in a corner on 2 pads run 5 v to torch head and a debounce buffer then just touch off . should be more than sufficent for a plasma table , if a thc is used could just use the touch off pin output no?? On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 1:46 PM, Viesturs Lācis wrote: > 2013/4/

Re: [Emc-users] How about the core[X,Y] drive?

2013-04-15 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2013/4/15 jeremy youngs > contact plates like gene uses? > > On a belt? -- Viesturs If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto -- Precog is a next-generation analytics platform capable o

Re: [Emc-users] How about the core[X,Y] drive?

2013-04-15 Thread jeremy youngs
contact plates like gene uses? On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 1:32 PM, Todd Zuercher wrote: > The best way I can think of would be to home each joint to some sort of > index mark on the belt. > > - Original Message - > 2013/4/15 andy pugh > > > On 15 April 2013 11:00, Gregg Eshelman wrote

Re: [Emc-users] How about the core[X,Y] drive?

2013-04-15 Thread Todd Zuercher
The best way I can think of would be to home each joint to some sort of index mark on the belt. - Original Message - 2013/4/15 andy pugh > On 15 April 2013 11:00, Gregg Eshelman wrote: > > > The crossover counters any offset push at one end of the gantry with an > equal pull in the sam

Re: [Emc-users] How about the core[X,Y] drive?

2013-04-15 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2013/4/15 andy pugh > On 15 April 2013 11:00, Gregg Eshelman wrote: > > > The crossover counters any offset push at one end of the gantry with an > equal pull in the same direction at the opposite end. The theory page shows > how it works. > > I have stared at the diagrams for long enough now th

Re: [Emc-users] How about the core[X,Y] drive?

2013-04-15 Thread Eric Keller
On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 6:47 AM, andy pugh wrote: > > > I have stared at the diagrams for long enough now that I have changed > my mind several times. I might have to build one to see. > I have a plotter that was built like this using wire as the drive. It was pretty neat, but the wire got mess

Re: [Emc-users] How about the core[X,Y] drive?

2013-04-15 Thread andy pugh
On 15 April 2013 11:00, Gregg Eshelman wrote: > The crossover counters any offset push at one end of the gantry with an equal > pull in the same direction at the opposite end. The theory page shows how it > works. I have stared at the diagrams for long enough now that I have changed my mind se

Re: [Emc-users] How about the core[X,Y] drive?

2013-04-15 Thread Gregg Eshelman
--- On Mon, 4/15/13, andy pugh wrote: > On 15 April 2013 10:13, Gregg Eshelman > wrote: > > This looks like it ought to be able to use the same > commands as an H-Bot. > > > > http://www.corexy.com > > I am not sure how it differs from the H-bot (which I think > has a > rather simpler belt path

Re: [Emc-users] How about the core[X,Y] drive?

2013-04-15 Thread andy pugh
On 15 April 2013 10:13, Gregg Eshelman wrote: > This looks like it ought to be able to use the same commands as an H-Bot. > > http://www.corexy.com I am not sure how it differs from the H-bot (which I think has a rather simpler belt path). As far as I can see both designs rely on the "gantry" be

[Emc-users] How about the core[X,Y] drive?

2013-04-15 Thread Gregg Eshelman
This looks like it ought to be able to use the same commands as an H-Bot. http://www.corexy.com Two motors, differential turning moves the platform in X and Y. Hmmm, this looks pretty much exactly how an Etch-a-Sketch works. The "gantry" bar can be lightweight for a light load (like the end of