Re: [Emc-users] What do I download for latest stable update?

2013-06-24 Thread Gregg Eshelman
On Mon, 6/24/13, Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote: If Gregg's goal is to install LinuxCNC from the 2.5 LiveCD onto a machine that isn't connected to the internet, and then upgrade LinuxCNC to the latest version, then do this: Download the latest release deb from here: http://linuxcnc.org/di

Re: [Emc-users] Kinematics - Help Our HackerSpace

2013-06-24 Thread Gregg Eshelman
On Mon, 6/24/13, Chris Radek wrote: > Your real constraints are not rectangular, but you'll need to inscribe a > rectangle and use that. What would be very useful is a way to "train" the system by manually moving the machine to its limits then clicking a button. *Very* useful for a machine wi

Re: [Emc-users] Retrofit Candidate Advice

2013-06-24 Thread Gregg Eshelman
On Mon, 6/24/13, Charles Steinkuehler wrote: http://kansascity.craigslist.org/tls/3892182813.html Can anyone advise if this looks like it would be a good candidate for conversion to LinuxCNC, and what I should watch out for if I actually go to inspect and/or buy it? Thanks! Machines tha

Re: [Emc-users] Retrofit Candidate Advice

2013-06-24 Thread Chris Radek
On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 10:18:06PM -0500, Charles Steinkuehler wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Besides my 3D printing endeavors, I am involved with trying to get a > hackerspace going here in Topeka. Recently a CNC mill that might make > a good LinuxCNC retrofit candi

Re: [Emc-users] Kinematics - Help Our HackerSpace

2013-06-24 Thread Chris Radek
On Sat, Jun 22, 2013 at 07:19:52PM -0500, Bart Dring wrote: > > http://pumpingstationone.org/2013/06/cnc-gonzo-build-2-recap/ Interesting machine! > We are having trouble getting it to work in EMC. When we turn on the > machine in EMC, both carriages immediately race at full speed towards the >

[Emc-users] Retrofit Candidate Advice

2013-06-24 Thread Charles Steinkuehler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Besides my 3D printing endeavors, I am involved with trying to get a hackerspace going here in Topeka. Recently a CNC mill that might make a good LinuxCNC retrofit candidate popped up on the local craigslist: http://kansascity.craigslist.org/tls/3892

Re: [Emc-users] Wichita LinuxCNC meeting

2013-06-24 Thread sam sokolik
First off - Thank you Stuart you are more than generous. Both dad and I had a wonderful time at the fest. I hope we can keep this up more often. 3 years was way too long. Now we had some success at the fest. Andy P asked if I would bring the accupins from the old GE control on the k&t.

Re: [Emc-users] Brain-Dead LinuxCNC G-Code Interface?

2013-06-24 Thread Dave
Ok.. you got me... Dave On 6/24/2013 6:37 PM, Stuart Stevenson wrote: > LinuxCNC is free. :) > On Jun 24, 2013 5:34 PM, "Dave" wrote: > > >> On 6/24/2013 12:17 PM, Florian Rist wrote: >> >>> Hi >>> >>> >>> Yes, the best option if someone _really_ wanted to do this seems to

Re: [Emc-users] Heat dissipation?

2013-06-24 Thread Gregg Eshelman
On 2013/06/24 07:40 PM, Viesturs La-cis wrote: > Hello! > > A client is asking me for a small machine that would burn their logo in > wooden parts. They want to do it with a heated element that would be > actuated by pneumatical cylinder. In other words they want a small, electrically heat

Re: [Emc-users] Brain-Dead LinuxCNC G-Code Interface?

2013-06-24 Thread Gregg Eshelman
On Mon, 6/24/13, Stuart Stevenson wrote: Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Brain-Dead LinuxCNC G-Code Interface? To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" Date: Monday, June 24, 2013, 9:42 AM My first reaction is how could this be necessary? Are they not

Re: [Emc-users] What do I download for latest stable update?

2013-06-24 Thread Gregg Eshelman
On Mon, 6/24/13, Eric Keller wrote: Subject: Re: [Emc-users] What do I download for latest stable update? To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" Date: Monday, June 24, 2013, 8:55 AM my interpretation was that he wanted to update without using the internet on the target computer, but I c

Re: [Emc-users] Brain-Dead LinuxCNC G-Code Interface?

2013-06-24 Thread Stuart Stevenson
LinuxCNC is free. :) On Jun 24, 2013 5:34 PM, "Dave" wrote: > On 6/24/2013 12:17 PM, Florian Rist wrote: > > Hi > > > > > >> Yes, the best option if someone _really_ wanted to do this seems to be > >> running the rsh interface and just sending gcodes one at a time as MDI > >> commands. > >> > > W

Re: [Emc-users] Brain-Dead LinuxCNC G-Code Interface?

2013-06-24 Thread Dave
On 6/24/2013 12:17 PM, Florian Rist wrote: > Hi > > >> Yes, the best option if someone _really_ wanted to do this seems to be >> running the rsh interface and just sending gcodes one at a time as MDI >> commands. >> > Well, I did something like that using rsh recently, but there is a big

Re: [Emc-users] Kinematics - Help Our HackerSpace

2013-06-24 Thread TJoseph Powderly
Hello, I am Tom Powderly from Elgin IL I knew of PumpStationOne, but it wasn't close ( or free ;) anyway, lets simplify a complex problem a bit 1) try to find an original yourkins.c or reconstruct it ( gotta be done anyway) rest of comments are interspersed inline On 06/22/2013 07:19 PM, Bart

Re: [Emc-users] Heat dissipation?

2013-06-24 Thread Marius Liebenberg
Certain compounds are but not all. You want a very porous one. You will get heat transfer but not a lot and it depends on how long you make the rod. Very hard compound will conduct a lot of heat. On 2013/06/24 08:17 PM, Viesturs La-cis wrote: > 2013/6/24 Marius Liebenberg > >> You could epoxy a

Re: [Emc-users] Heat dissipation?

2013-06-24 Thread John Kasunich
I agree with the thin-walled tube approach. Use stainless steel. Stainless conducts 1/3 as much heat as regular steel, and 1/10 as much as aluminum. There is a table of thermal conductivities at http://www.engineersedge.com/properties_of_metals.htm There are a few materials in that list that are

Re: [Emc-users] Brain-Dead LinuxCNC G-Code Interface?

2013-06-24 Thread dave
I've had exactly the opposite experience. 10 years of solid on time. Never turned the machine off. :-) Dave On Mon, 2013-06-24 at 14:13 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Monday 24 June 2013 13:59:47 Stuart Stevenson did opine: > > > wonders never cease > > I just saw a link for a PDP-11 assembly

Re: [Emc-users] Heat dissipation?

2013-06-24 Thread TJoseph Powderly
On 06/24/2013 12:47 PM, andy pugh wrote: > On 24 June 2013 18:40, Viesturs Lācis wrote: > >> I would like to ask, if somebody has ever done something similar and could >> share some tips about best practices how to attach that heated stencil to >> pneumatic cylinder. > > I have seen water-cooled b

Re: [Emc-users] Heat dissipation?

2013-06-24 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2013/6/24 Marius Liebenberg > You could epoxy a piece of ceramic rod into two pieces of tube. One at > both ends. One attached to the heated element and the other tube to the > rod. > Do I understand correctly that the idea is that ceramics are bad at "heat conductivity"? -- Viesturs If you c

Re: [Emc-users] Heat dissipation?

2013-06-24 Thread andy pugh
On 24 June 2013 18:40, Viesturs Lācis wrote: > I would like not to reinvent the wheel, so will appreciate any advices. I think the search term would be "thermal break" though that is mainly finding me structural things like: http://www.farrat.com/tbn100-47.html -- atp If you can't fix it, you

Re: [Emc-users] Brain-Dead LinuxCNC G-Code Interface?

2013-06-24 Thread Charles Buckley
IIRC, the Arduino systems cache a series of incoming g-code lines, then runs them out to the printer. When you look at moving Linuxcnc onto Beaglebone and Raspberry Pi, the implementation of a modified drip-type system might work better. You take a pretty significant hit if you are trying to run a

Re: [Emc-users] Heat dissipation?

2013-06-24 Thread TJoseph Powderly
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Re: [Emc-users] Brain-Dead LinuxCNC G-Code Interface?

2013-06-24 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 24 June 2013 13:59:47 Stuart Stevenson did opine: > wonders never cease > I just saw a link for a PDP-11 assembly programmer for a job to last > until 2050 > seems as if anything is possible Even including that insanity, because based on my experience with a PDP-11/723, that would hav

Re: [Emc-users] Heat dissipation?

2013-06-24 Thread Stuart Stevenson
possibility http://www.morganthermalceramics.com/products/ On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 12:54 PM, Marius Liebenberg wrote: > You could epoxy a piece of ceramic rod into two pieces of tube. One at > both ends. One attached to the heated element and the other tube to the > rod. > > On 2013/06/24 07:40

Re: [Emc-users] Heat dissipation?

2013-06-24 Thread Marius Liebenberg
You could epoxy a piece of ceramic rod into two pieces of tube. One at both ends. One attached to the heated element and the other tube to the rod. On 2013/06/24 07:40 PM, Viesturs La-cis wrote: > Hello! > > A client is asking me for a small machine that would burn their logo in > wooden parts. T

Re: [Emc-users] Heat dissipation?

2013-06-24 Thread andy pugh
On 24 June 2013 18:40, Viesturs Lācis wrote: > I would like to ask, if somebody has ever done something similar and could > share some tips about best practices how to attach that heated stencil to > pneumatic cylinder. I have seen water-cooled blocks used for similar things. (maybe air-cooled m

[Emc-users] Heat dissipation?

2013-06-24 Thread Viesturs Lācis
Hello! A client is asking me for a small machine that would burn their logo in wooden parts. They want to do it with a heated element that would be actuated by pneumatical cylinder. My only concern that I have not yet figured out is keeping down as much as possible the amount of heat transfered t

Re: [Emc-users] What do I download for latest stable update?

2013-06-24 Thread Eric Keller
On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 12:21 PM, Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote: > > This should work, but i think you'll be happier if you put a cheapo USB > wifi dongle in your LinuxCNC machine. I bet it wouldn't take much > research to find one that'll work with Ubuntu Lucid. > The livecd limits your choices

Re: [Emc-users] Brain-Dead LinuxCNC G-Code Interface?

2013-06-24 Thread Stuart Stevenson
wonders never cease I just saw a link for a PDP-11 assembly programmer for a job to last until 2050 seems as if anything is possible On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 12:26 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Monday 24 June 2013 13:16:57 Stuart Stevenson did opine: > > [...] > > I am having trouble imagining a

Re: [Emc-users] Brain-Dead LinuxCNC G-Code Interface?

2013-06-24 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 24 June 2013 13:16:57 Stuart Stevenson did opine: [...] > I am having trouble imagining a computer so small or a program so large > as to need drip feed. [...] I have a friend on the CoCo mailing list that has written, in rsbasic, using data statements, code to drive a home made millin

Re: [Emc-users] Brain-Dead LinuxCNC G-Code Interface?

2013-06-24 Thread Jon Elson
andy pugh wrote: > On 24 June 2013 15:50, Charles Steinkuehler wrote: > > >> I have some folks from the 3D printer world asking me if LinuxCNC can >> be used in a "gcode mode" similar to how the Arduino currently >> operates these machines (a serial terminal that accepts gcode and >> spits out

Re: [Emc-users] What do I download for latest stable update?

2013-06-24 Thread Sebastian Kuzminsky
On 6/24/13 08:55 , Eric Keller wrote: > my interpretation was that he wanted to update without using the > internet on the target computer, but I could be wrong. Should be able > to d/l some packages and move them onto the usb drive, correct? > > On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 10:45 AM, Sebastian Kuzmins

Re: [Emc-users] Brain-Dead LinuxCNC G-Code Interface?

2013-06-24 Thread Florian Rist
Hi > Yes, the best option if someone _really_ wanted to do this seems to be > running the rsh interface and just sending gcodes one at a time as MDI > commands. Well, I did something like that using rsh recently, but there is a big problem with it: As far as I can see a continuous motion (G64) is

Re: [Emc-users] Brain-Dead LinuxCNC G-Code Interface?

2013-06-24 Thread andy pugh
On 24 June 2013 17:08, Eric Keller wrote: > I agree, I have an application that does something similar, and I > could have programmed it in gcode if I wanted. The application moves > a microscope on a linear stage. So this use of linuxcnc has occurred > to me in the past. It didn't work out th

Re: [Emc-users] Brain-Dead LinuxCNC G-Code Interface?

2013-06-24 Thread Charles Steinkuehler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 6/24/2013 10:42 AM, Stuart Stevenson wrote: > My first reaction is how could this be necessary? Are they not > wanting/able to capture a file to feed to the control? I am having > trouble imagining a computer so small or a program so large as to > n

Re: [Emc-users] Brain-Dead LinuxCNC G-Code Interface?

2013-06-24 Thread Eric Keller
On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 11:56 AM, Ralph Stirling wrote: > Charles, > > What you are asking about actually has broader use than the > "drip feed" that first comes to mind. If one is using LinuxCNC > as a motion controller in a larger automation system, it could be > very useful to make spontaneous

Re: [Emc-users] Brain-Dead LinuxCNC G-Code Interface?

2013-06-24 Thread Charles Steinkuehler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 6/24/2013 10:56 AM, Ralph Stirling wrote: > Charles, > > What you are asking about actually has broader use than the "drip > feed" that first comes to mind. If one is using LinuxCNC as a > motion controller in a larger automation system, it could

Re: [Emc-users] Brain-Dead LinuxCNC G-Code Interface?

2013-06-24 Thread Ralph Stirling
Charles, What you are asking about actually has broader use than the "drip feed" that first comes to mind. If one is using LinuxCNC as a motion controller in a larger automation system, it could be very useful to make spontaneous commands for motion, perhaps generated by a vision system or other

Re: [Emc-users] Brain-Dead LinuxCNC G-Code Interface?

2013-06-24 Thread Stuart Stevenson
My first reaction is how could this be necessary? Are they not wanting/able to capture a file to feed to the control? I am having trouble imagining a computer so small or a program so large as to need drip feed. On Jun 24, 2013 10:32 AM, "Eric Keller" wrote: > On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 10:58 AM, an

Re: [Emc-users] Brain-Dead LinuxCNC G-Code Interface?

2013-06-24 Thread Eric Keller
On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 10:58 AM, andy pugh wrote: > On 24 June 2013 15:50, Charles Steinkuehler wrote: > >> I have some folks from the 3D printer world asking me if LinuxCNC can >> be used in a "gcode mode" similar to how the Arduino currently >> operates these machines (a serial terminal that a

Re: [Emc-users] Brain-Dead LinuxCNC G-Code Interface?

2013-06-24 Thread andy pugh
On 24 June 2013 15:50, Charles Steinkuehler wrote: > I have some folks from the 3D printer world asking me if LinuxCNC can > be used in a "gcode mode" similar to how the Arduino currently > operates these machines (a serial terminal that accepts gcode and > spits out the occasional status message

Re: [Emc-users] Brain-Dead LinuxCNC G-Code Interface?

2013-06-24 Thread Eric Keller
This is usually called "drip feed" in the cnc world. I don't know if linuxcnc has ever been forced into this mode, but it seems doable. On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 10:50 AM, Charles Steinkuehler wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > I have some folks from the 3D printer world

Re: [Emc-users] What do I download for latest stable update?

2013-06-24 Thread Eric Keller
my interpretation was that he wanted to update without using the internet on the target computer, but I could be wrong. Should be able to d/l some packages and move them onto the usb drive, correct? On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 10:45 AM, Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote: > On 06/24/2013 12:38 AM, Gregg Eshe

Re: [Emc-users] What do I download for latest stable update?

2013-06-24 Thread Sebastian Kuzminsky
On 06/24/2013 12:38 AM, Gregg Eshelman wrote: > I downloaded the ISO a while ago, burned it to a DVD and installed. Haven't > hooked it up to anything yet (Ned is still dragging his feet on deciding to > go ahead with getting the components.) > > What do I download to a USB stick for the latest s

[Emc-users] Brain-Dead LinuxCNC G-Code Interface?

2013-06-24 Thread Charles Steinkuehler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I have some folks from the 3D printer world asking me if LinuxCNC can be used in a "gcode mode" similar to how the Arduino currently operates these machines (a serial terminal that accepts gcode and spits out the occasional status message). I figure t

Re: [Emc-users] Wichita LinuxCNC meeting

2013-06-24 Thread tcninja12
I would like to thank Stuart for hosting this incredible event. Of course thanks to all for their dedication and work on the project. Stuart said it best with WOW. I enjoyed meeting people that I thought I would only exchange e-mail with. The future of Linuxcnc looks bright. Thanks to all and hope

[Emc-users] Wichita LinuxCNC meeting

2013-06-24 Thread Stuart Stevenson
Gentlemen, First response - WOW - the only word to describe the week. Over thirty people attended this week. When I posted the meeting time and place I thought eight might show up and twelve would be a large number. I was surprised! Many states were represented as were Canada, UK and Austria.