Re: [Emc-users] Configuring New PCI Parport

2015-11-20 Thread jeshua
> On Nov 20, 2015, at 9:14 PM, Jon Elson wrote: > > Here's the report from my older Siig card : > 04:02.0 Parallel controller: Siig Inc CyberParallel (2-port) > (prog-if 02) > Subsystem: Siig Inc CyberParallel (2-port) > Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster- SpecCycle- MemWINV- > VGASnoop- Par

Re: [Emc-users] Configuring New PCI Parport

2015-11-20 Thread Jon Elson
On 11/20/2015 06:56 PM, jeshua wrote: >> > So I have installed the card, see that it has the parport_pc kernel > registered, but cannot get it to go to epp. > > 08:00.0 Parallel controller: Oxford Semiconductor Ltd OX9162 Mode 0 (parallel > port) (prog-if 03 [IEEE1284]) > Subsystem: Siig In

Re: [Emc-users] Configuring New PCI Parport

2015-11-20 Thread jeshua
> On Nov 20, 2015, at 11:41 AM, Jon Elson wrote: > > On 11/20/2015 11:19 AM, Sarah Armstrong wrote: >> i have quite a collection of parallel port cards that don't work with >> Linuxcnc both pci & pcie >> the only ones so far i have found to work are the startech ( after patching >> the epp ) &

Re: [Emc-users] Lathe saddle protection

2015-11-20 Thread Dave Cole
Do what the big companies do. Make up a big sign or list of things you need to do and put it over your lathe.. You need to get tougher on yourself! ;-) Actually a procedural checklist might make sense. Dave On 11/20/2015 1:48 PM, andy pugh wrote: > On 20 November 2015 at 18:10, Les Newell

Re: [Emc-users] Configuring New PCI Parport

2015-11-20 Thread jeshua
> On Nov 20, 2015, at 11:46 AM, andy pugh wrote: > > n 18 November 2015 at 17:49, Jeshua Lacock wrote: >> Long story short; I had to install a new PCI Parport card and I am trying to >> figure out what address to use for my hal configuration file for Axis. The >> card has the same CH382L chip

Re: [Emc-users] Lathe saddle protection

2015-11-20 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 20 November 2015 13:10:05 Les Newell wrote: > > I wonder how a hall effect might work, to sense the chucks jaws > > going by when it gets too close? I think I'd boost the length of its > > output pulse with a one shot to make sure its triggering wasn't > > missed though when the servo th

Re: [Emc-users] Configuring New PCI Parport

2015-11-20 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 20 November 2015 12:06:23 Jon Elson wrote: > On 11/19/2015 11:24 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Did I see the number 9815 in the chipset someplace back in > > the beginning of this thread? IIRC thats a netmos number, > > and is known to not work at this location from several > > years ago.

Re: [Emc-users] Lathe saddle protection

2015-11-20 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 20 November 2015 10:47:15 andy pugh wrote: > On 20 November 2015 at 15:30, Gene Heskett wrote: > > I have probably worn off an eighth of an > > inch off the nose of the compound feed since it usually hangs out in > > front of the saddle. Just one of the reasons I have considered > > re

Re: [Emc-users] Configuring New PCI Parport

2015-11-20 Thread Sarah Armstrong
thats exactly the cards i have here Andy if you want a bin full , i can send you a few more ! On 20 November 2015 at 18:46, andy pugh wrote: > On 18 November 2015 at 17:49, Jeshua Lacock wrote: > > Long story short; I had to install a new PCI Parport card and I am > trying to figure out what ad

Re: [Emc-users] Lathe saddle protection

2015-11-20 Thread andy pugh
On 20 November 2015 at 18:10, Les Newell wrote: > What is wrong with having a switch on the saddle that trips > when it hits an adjustable stop? That requires me to remember to set the adjustable stop. If I can remember to do that, then I can remember to check the soft limits. -- atp If you ca

Re: [Emc-users] Lathe saddle protection

2015-11-20 Thread rayj
Just thinking out loud here. I have seen table saws that have emergency stop systems that use capacitance (I believe) to sense when something (a finger) touches the blade. The touch sensor trips a brake that stops the blade virtually instantly. I was thinking something similar could be used t

Re: [Emc-users] Configuring New PCI Parport

2015-11-20 Thread andy pugh
On 18 November 2015 at 17:49, Jeshua Lacock wrote: > Long story short; I had to install a new PCI Parport card and I am trying to > figure out what address to use for my hal configuration file for Axis. The > card has the same CH382L chip listed in the wiki: > > http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/

Re: [Emc-users] Configuring New PCI Parport

2015-11-20 Thread Jon Elson
On 11/20/2015 11:19 AM, Sarah Armstrong wrote: > i have quite a collection of parallel port cards that don't work with > Linuxcnc both pci & pcie > the only ones so far i have found to work are the startech ( after patching > the epp ) & one's with Oxford semi chipsets > are the only ones so far i

Re: [Emc-users] Configuring New PCI Parport

2015-11-20 Thread jeshua
> On Nov 19, 2015, at 10:00 PM, Jon Elson wrote: > > On 11/19/2015 10:20 PM, Jeshua Lacock wrote: >> On Nov 19, 2015, at 2:05 PM, Todd Zuercher wrote: >> >>> Are you sure that is actually the right listing for your pci card? >> >> Hi Todd, >> >> Yes, I am sure, if the card isn’t in the machi

Re: [Emc-users] Lathe saddle protection

2015-11-20 Thread Les Newell
> I wonder how a hall effect might work, to sense the chucks jaws going > by when it gets too close? I think I'd boost the length of its output > pulse with a one shot to make sure its triggering wasn't missed though > when the servo thread is the only one, no base thread to read it every > 30

Re: [Emc-users] Configuring New PCI Parport

2015-11-20 Thread Todd Zuercher
I am using two Netmos cards on two installs (one is a 9815 and the other is a 9865), and haven't had any trouble with either one. But I am not using either one in EPP mode. I am using the ports with X-mode in Linuxcnc witch requires the ports to be set to SPP mode. - Original Message ---

Re: [Emc-users] Configuring New PCI Parport

2015-11-20 Thread Sarah Armstrong
i have quite a collection of parallel port cards that don't work with Linuxcnc both pci & pcie the only ones so far i have found to work are the startech ( after patching the epp ) & one's with Oxford semi chipsets are the only ones so far iv'e found to work just about out the box . all the cheap

Re: [Emc-users] Configuring New PCI Parport

2015-11-20 Thread Jon Elson
On 11/19/2015 11:24 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > Did I see the number 9815 in the chipset someplace back in > the beginning of this thread? IIRC thats a netmos number, > and is known to not work at this location from several > years ago. I then bought a StarTech card, which did work. > But that wh

Re: [Emc-users] Lathe saddle protection

2015-11-20 Thread andy pugh
On 20 November 2015 at 15:30, Gene Heskett wrote: > I have probably worn off an eighth of an > inch off the nose of the compound feed since it usually hangs out in > front of the saddle. Just one of the reasons I have considered removing > it and replacing it with a block of steel Right and belo

Re: [Emc-users] Lathe saddle protection

2015-11-20 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 20 November 2015 07:58:20 Les Newell wrote: > On 20/11/15 12:30, andy pugh wrote: > > One concern with any such idea would be that swarf might trip the > > sensor. Some super-clever frequency analysis might be needed (3x or > > 4x spindle speed) to tell the difference. > > A mechanical s

Re: [Emc-users] Lathe saddle protection

2015-11-20 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 20 November 2015 07:30:49 andy pugh wrote: > On 20 November 2015 at 11:50, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Chuck strikes would seem to be so "tool mounted" a variable as to be > > unsolvable. > > I don't see why. The same area of the saddle is likely to be at risk > of hitting the chuck jaws in

Re: [Emc-users] Lathe saddle protection

2015-11-20 Thread andy pugh
On 20 November 2015 at 12:58, Les Newell wrote: > A mechanical switch is probably best in this application. Swarf is > unlikely to provide the solid push needed to operate a switch The danger there seems to be that the chuck jaws might simply shorten the plunger by a small amount each time, with

Re: [Emc-users] Lathe saddle protection

2015-11-20 Thread Les Newell
On 20/11/15 12:30, andy pugh wrote: > One concern with any such idea would be that swarf might trip the > sensor. Some super-clever frequency analysis might be needed (3x or 4x > spindle speed) to tell the difference. A mechanical switch is probably best in this application. Swarf is unlikely

Re: [Emc-users] Lathe saddle protection

2015-11-20 Thread andy pugh
On 20 November 2015 at 11:50, Gene Heskett wrote: > Chuck strikes would seem to be so "tool mounted" a variable as to be > unsolvable. I don't see why. The same area of the saddle is likely to be at risk of hitting the chuck jaws in must setups. I am not trying to protect lathe tools or the chuck

Re: [Emc-users] Lathe saddle protection

2015-11-20 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 20 November 2015 06:29:18 Les Newell wrote: > I have a Denford Orac with a switch on the saddle and an adjustable > stop that clamps on the bed. I also use another machine that has a > fixed switch on the headstock and is an adjustable rod on the saddle > to set the trip point. These has

Re: [Emc-users] Lathe saddle protection

2015-11-20 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 20 November 2015 06:00:00 andy pugh wrote: > Has anyone ever tried embedding proximity sensors in their lathe > saddle to protect against chuck-strikes or backing up against the > tailstock? > > If so, any "lessons learned" about where to put the sensors? Chuck strikes would seem to be

Re: [Emc-users] Lathe saddle protection

2015-11-20 Thread Les Newell
I have a Denford Orac with a switch on the saddle and an adjustable stop that clamps on the bed. I also use another machine that has a fixed switch on the headstock and is an adjustable rod on the saddle to set the trip point. These has saved the machines from damage a couple of times and I hav

Re: [Emc-users] Lathe saddle protection

2015-11-20 Thread Dave Caroline
I have the mechanical version on one of the lathes too, it is job specific I dont see how a proximity switch could know all possible errors of eg hitting jaws, chuck body or work or even the headstock. The little denford cnc lathe has the electrical stop movable on the bed. Dave -

Re: [Emc-users] Lathe saddle protection

2015-11-20 Thread andy pugh
On 20 November 2015 at 11:13, John Thornton wrote: > My Samson lathe has an adjustable kick out for the saddle feed. I can > move it along the Z axis to where I need the feed to kick out. It is > under the saddle, I don't have a photo of it atm. You could do the same > with a prox or switch. That

Re: [Emc-users] Lathe saddle protection

2015-11-20 Thread John Thornton
My Samson lathe has an adjustable kick out for the saddle feed. I can move it along the Z axis to where I need the feed to kick out. It is under the saddle, I don't have a photo of it atm. You could do the same with a prox or switch. JT On 11/20/2015 5:00 AM, andy pugh wrote: > Has anyone ever

[Emc-users] Lathe saddle protection

2015-11-20 Thread andy pugh
Has anyone ever tried embedding proximity sensors in their lathe saddle to protect against chuck-strikes or backing up against the tailstock? If so, any "lessons learned" about where to put the sensors? -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto --