Re: [Emc-users] Beagle Board Black startup

2014-03-14 Thread Jeff
-0500 > From: char...@steinkuehler.net > To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Beagle Board Black startup > > Just to be clear, that image is *NOT* currently supported, I haven't > even booted it on a BeagleBone. I was experimenting and Mark wante

Re: [Emc-users] Beagle Board Black startup

2014-03-14 Thread Charles Steinkuehler
>> ---------------- >> Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2014 13:42:25 -0500 >> From: char...@steinkuehler.net >> To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net >> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Beagle Board Black startup >> >> >> It may also be the boot loader o

Re: [Emc-users] Beagle Board Black startup

2014-03-14 Thread Mark Tucker
e: Thu, 13 Mar 2014 13:42:25 -0500 > From: char...@steinkuehler.net > To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Beagle Board Black startup > > > It may also be the boot loader on a particular version BeagleBone. I > haven't reproduced the problem here, so

Re: [Emc-users] Beagle Board Black startup

2014-03-14 Thread Jeff
recompile something first?     I do not have any capes connected. Thanks, Jeff     Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2014 13:42:25 -0500 From: char...@steinkuehler.net To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Beagle Board Black startup It may also

Re: [Emc-users] Beagle Board Black startup

2014-03-14 Thread Ernesto Lo Valvo
> On 3/10/2014 2:41 PM, Charles Steinkuehler wrote: >> On 3/10/2014 1:12 PM, Dave Cole wrote: >>> I still can't see the BBB on the network. >>> >>> On a power up or reset, the 3 lights next to the reset button sequence >>> on one by one and the lights on the RJ45 jack flash briefly. >>> >>> I'm goi

Re: [Emc-users] Beagle Board Black startup

2014-03-13 Thread jeremy youngs
good job jeremy youngs On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 9:52 PM, Dave Cole wrote: > I got it working. I updated the onboard Angstrom distribution on the > eMMC and it fixed the problem of loading the uSD card with LinuxCNC. > > Windows OS instructions are here - look for "Update board with late

Re: [Emc-users] Beagle Board Black startup

2014-03-13 Thread Dave Cole
I got it working. I updated the onboard Angstrom distribution on the eMMC and it fixed the problem of loading the uSD card with LinuxCNC. Windows OS instructions are here - look for "Update board with latest software" on this page: http://beagleboard.org/Getting+Started Unpacking the image file

Re: [Emc-users] Beagle Board Black startup

2014-03-13 Thread Dave Cole
I found the procedure to update the BBB onboard eeprom. I'll do that and report back. Dave On 3/13/2014 3:35 PM, Michael Haberler wrote: > Am 13.03.2014 um 22:19 schrieb Dave Cole : > >> I have a total of 4 BBB's. All 4 boards respond in the same way to the >> uSD card created with the script.

Re: [Emc-users] Beagle Board Black startup

2014-03-13 Thread Dave Cole
I wrote the 4 GB image of the same date; 12/28/13 to a 8 GB uSD card with DD and I am getting exactly the same error. So both the uSD card created with the script and DD respond in exactly the same way. This looks like this may be isolated to the BBBs that I have? Perhaps I can update the firmw

Re: [Emc-users] Beagle Board Black startup

2014-03-13 Thread Michael Haberler
Am 13.03.2014 um 22:19 schrieb Dave Cole : > I have a total of 4 BBB's. All 4 boards respond in the same way to the > uSD card created with the script. > These boards were purchased as one lot, last year. > > The script is pulling files in off the web, so perhaps some of those > source files h

Re: [Emc-users] Beagle Board Black startup

2014-03-13 Thread Michael Haberler
Am 13.03.2014 um 21:10 schrieb Mark Tucker : > Michael > > Why would we need the developer enviroment on a running > beaglebone/machinekit? good question. I might just have a different perspective on that question because I for me right now it is a development environment, which means lots o

Re: [Emc-users] Beagle Board Black startup

2014-03-13 Thread Dave Cole
I have a total of 4 BBB's. All 4 boards respond in the same way to the uSD card created with the script. These boards were purchased as one lot, last year. The script is pulling files in off the web, so perhaps some of those source files have changed? At the moment I'm writing the 12/28/13 imag

Re: [Emc-users] Beagle Board Black startup

2014-03-13 Thread Mark Tucker
Michael Why would we need the developer enviroment on a running beaglebone/machinekit? Once it is running it can be left alone on the eMMc and boot off a big memory card for development. Or is it a case of when you have compiled linuxcnc,it will not run without the developer enviroment. I thin

Re: [Emc-users] Beagle Board Black startup

2014-03-13 Thread Michael Haberler
Mark, Am 13.03.2014 um 19:30 schrieb Mark Tucker : > This seems like another good reason to get this to fit on the eMMc to > avoid killing the card slot. very good point would you mind looking into the issue - getting rid of all non-essential packages and see if you can get the image below 2G

Re: [Emc-users] Beagle Board Black startup

2014-03-13 Thread Charles Steinkuehler
It may also be the boot loader on a particular version BeagleBone. I haven't reproduced the problem here, so I'm not sure exactly what's going on. On 3/13/2014 1:30 PM, Mark Tucker wrote: > This seems like another good reason to get this to fit on the eMMc to > avoid killing the card slot. > >

Re: [Emc-users] Beagle Board Black startup

2014-03-13 Thread Mark Tucker
This seems like another good reason to get this to fit on the eMMc to avoid killing the card slot. On 13/03/14 18:24, Michael Haberler wrote: > Am 13.03.2014 um 17:33 schrieb Charles Steinkuehler > : > >> Pinging Michael Haberler: >> >> Is this the same issue you were seeing? >> >> It seems lik

Re: [Emc-users] Beagle Board Black startup

2014-03-13 Thread Michael Haberler
Am 13.03.2014 um 17:33 schrieb Charles Steinkuehler : > Pinging Michael Haberler: > > Is this the same issue you were seeing? > > It seems like Michael's issue was with the SD card slot on the BBB, the > same SD card worked on a different board. that is exactly what I saw two days ago - same s

Re: [Emc-users] Beagle Board Black startup

2014-03-13 Thread Dave Cole
I have a few BBB boards here. I tried it on two different boards. Same identical results. The BBB uSD card slot is not very robust. It would not be difficult to damage it. I''ll try a third BBB and see if there is a difference. I've also tried it on two different uSD cards. Dave On 3/13/2014 1

Re: [Emc-users] Beagle Board Black startup

2014-03-13 Thread Charles Steinkuehler
Pinging Michael Haberler: Is this the same issue you were seeing? It seems like Michael's issue was with the SD card slot on the BBB, the same SD card worked on a different board. On 3/13/2014 12:16 PM, Dave Cole wrote: > I tried adding the partition manager and that made no difference. > > I h

Re: [Emc-users] Beagle Board Black startup

2014-03-13 Thread Dave Cole
I tried adding the partition manager and that made no difference. I hooked up a TTL to USB serial adapter cable to the debug port and this is what I saw (see below) If you have any ideas, let me know, everything is setup here and it is easy to alter. Otherwise I'll download a 4 gig image and w

Re: [Emc-users] Beagle Board Black startup

2014-03-12 Thread Dave Cole
On 3/12/2014 2:00 PM, Charles Steinkuehler wrote: > On 3/12/2014 2:49 PM, Dave Cole wrote: >> But I did notice when running the script that a few errors pop up saying >> it can't recognize a file type and it can't write to the root directory. >> I have a sudo in the front of the script command line

Re: [Emc-users] Beagle Board Black startup

2014-03-12 Thread Mark Tucker
Dave Have you tried using the 4gb image and just copy it over using DD ?. I had problems with the script installing the wrong kernal. But on saying that the networking worked on both. I just use the 4gb image and then expand the card to 8gb using gparted. On 12/03/14 19:49, Dave Cole wrote: > On

Re: [Emc-users] Beagle Board Black startup

2014-03-12 Thread Charles Steinkuehler
On 3/12/2014 2:49 PM, Dave Cole wrote: > But I did notice when running the script that a few errors pop up saying > it can't recognize a file type and it can't write to the root directory. > I have a sudo in the front of the script command line. > Although the completed card appears to have a root

Re: [Emc-users] Beagle Board Black startup

2014-03-12 Thread Dave Cole
On 3/10/2014 2:41 PM, Charles Steinkuehler wrote: > On 3/10/2014 1:12 PM, Dave Cole wrote: >> I still can't see the BBB on the network. >> >> On a power up or reset, the 3 lights next to the reset button sequence >> on one by one and the lights on the RJ45 jack flash briefly. >> >> I'm going to ref

Re: [Emc-users] Beagle Board Black startup

2014-03-12 Thread Charles Steinkuehler
On 3/12/2014 11:53 AM, Jon Elson wrote: > So, just loading the latest machinekit will have it running > at full speed? Yes, the latest kernels (-bone39 and later) have the dynamic frequency code compiled in, but the only thing enabled is the "performance" mode. So the processor will always run a

Re: [Emc-users] Beagle Board Black startup

2014-03-12 Thread Jon Elson
On 03/11/2014 10:54 PM, Charles Steinkuehler wrote: > CPU frequency scaling was disabled in the kernel > configuration as recommended by the Xenomai folks. The > problem is, that leaves the CPU frequency set by the boot > loader with no way to change it. Different versions of the > boot loader

Re: [Emc-users] Beagle Board Black startup

2014-03-11 Thread Charles Steinkuehler
On 3/11/2014 10:45 PM, Jon Elson wrote: > On 03/11/2014 07:57 PM, Charles Steinkuehler wrote: >> On 3/11/2014 7:23 PM, Jeff wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>>Got it! Thanks. It is now at 990.68 MIPS with the newer kernel. >>> >>> > So, what is going on with the older machinekit installs? Do > they actu

Re: [Emc-users] Beagle Board Black startup

2014-03-11 Thread Jon Elson
On 03/11/2014 07:57 PM, Charles Steinkuehler wrote: > On 3/11/2014 7:23 PM, Jeff wrote: >> Hi, >> >>Got it! Thanks. It is now at 990.68 MIPS with the newer kernel. >> >> So, what is going on with the older machinekit installs? Do they actually not run the CPU at rated speed? I did notice t

Re: [Emc-users] Beagle Board Black startup

2014-03-11 Thread Jeff
ors. Jeff   Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2014 13:32:43 -0500 From: char...@steinkuehler.net To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Beagle Board Black startup On 3/11/2014 1:08 PM, Jeff wrote: > Hi, > > Is there a set of instructions on how to upgrade? > >

Re: [Emc-users] Beagle Board Black startup

2014-03-11 Thread Charles Steinkuehler
On 3/11/2014 7:23 PM, Jeff wrote: > Hi, > > Got it! Thanks. It is now at 990.68 MIPS with the newer kernel. > > If anyone else gives this a try, for some reason I had to un tar the dtbs > file with a suffix > > tar -xzvf --no-same-owner > > without the --no-same-owner I was getting 'own

Re: [Emc-users] Beagle Board Black startup

2014-03-11 Thread Charles Steinkuehler
On 3/11/2014 1:08 PM, Jeff wrote: > Hi, > > Is there a set of instructions on how to upgrade? > > The MachineKit I have does show 363.67 MIPS with a cat /proc/cpuinfo > > I tried the instructions here: > > http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?XenomaiKernelPackages > > and got

Re: [Emc-users] Beagle Board Black startup

2014-03-11 Thread Jeff
perly (or something).  I've never upgraded a kernel before so am pretty lost. Thanks, Jeff Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2014 10:35:42 -0500 From: char...@steinkuehler.net To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Beagle Board Black startup On

Re: [Emc-users] Beagle Board Black startup

2014-03-10 Thread Charles Steinkuehler
On 3/10/2014 1:12 PM, Dave Cole wrote: > I still can't see the BBB on the network. > > On a power up or reset, the 3 lights next to the reset button sequence > on one by one and the lights on the RJ45 jack flash briefly. > > I'm going to reflash the uSD card and try it again. If that doesn't wo

Re: [Emc-users] Beagle Board Black startup

2014-03-10 Thread Dave Cole
On 3/10/2014 10:35 AM, Charles Steinkuehler wrote: > On 3/10/2014 10:30 AM, Dave Cole wrote: >> I'm trying to start up a BBB with Charles' uSD image. >> >> I don't have a micro HDMI cable yet, but one is on the way. >> >> I believe that DHCP is enabled by default? >> >> If that is the case I should

Re: [Emc-users] Beagle Board Black startup

2014-03-10 Thread Charles Steinkuehler
On 3/10/2014 10:30 AM, Dave Cole wrote: > > I'm trying to start up a BBB with Charles' uSD image. > > I don't have a micro HDMI cable yet, but one is on the way. > > I believe that DHCP is enabled by default? > > If that is the case I should be able to SSH to it immediately after it > boots, i

[Emc-users] Beagle Board Black startup

2014-03-10 Thread Dave Cole
I'm trying to start up a BBB with Charles' uSD image. I don't have a micro HDMI cable yet, but one is on the way. I believe that DHCP is enabled by default? If that is the case I should be able to SSH to it immediately after it boots, is that correct? I can't see its address as it logs into m

Re: [Emc-users] Beagle Board

2010-11-08 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Mon, 2010-11-08 at 22:01 -0600, Jon Elson wrote: > On 11/08/2010 11:00 AM, Kirk Wallace wrote: > > > > I read somewhere that X-Box has an ARM processor? I wonder if EMC2 or > > RTAI could be made to run on X-Box? Since they are made in the millions, > > they should be cheap. > > > Yes, but w

Re: [Emc-users] Beagle Board

2010-11-08 Thread Jake Anderson
On 09/11/10 15:01, Jon Elson wrote: > On 11/08/2010 11:00 AM, Kirk Wallace wrote: > >> I read somewhere that X-Box has an ARM processor? I wonder if EMC2 or >> RTAI could be made to run on X-Box? Since they are made in the millions, >> they should be cheap. >> >> > Yes, but we STILL don't

Re: [Emc-users] Beagle Board

2010-11-08 Thread Jon Elson
On 11/08/2010 11:00 AM, Kirk Wallace wrote: > > I read somewhere that X-Box has an ARM processor? I wonder if EMC2 or > RTAI could be made to run on X-Box? Since they are made in the millions, > they should be cheap. > Yes, but we STILL don't have RTAI running on the latest ARM cpu's. Also, h

Re: [Emc-users] Beagle Board

2010-11-08 Thread Stephen Wille Padnos
Kirk Wallace wrote: > On Mon, 2010-11-08 at 11:48 -0500, Stephen Wille Padnos wrote: > >> [snip] >> > I read somewhere that X-Box has an ARM processor? I wonder if EMC2 or > RTAI could be made to run on X-Box? Since they are made in the millions, > they should be cheap. > Given that M

Re: [Emc-users] Beagle Board

2010-11-08 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Mon, 2010-11-08 at 11:48 -0500, Stephen Wille Padnos wrote: > Not to beat a dead horse too much, but at that price and power level, > there's no reason to use an ARM board instead of an Atom board. > > The D510MO is fine (certain parallel port strangeness notwithstanding), > as is the D945GCL

Re: [Emc-users] Beagle Board

2010-11-08 Thread Stephen Wille Padnos
Not to beat a dead horse too much, but at that price and power level, there's no reason to use an ARM board instead of an Atom board. The D510MO is fine (certain parallel port strangeness notwithstanding), as is the D945GCLF2, and a host of other brands. These boards are $90 or so with CPU, a

Re: [Emc-users] Beagle Board

2010-11-03 Thread Gary P. Fiber
I see the power supply is a 5 volt 4 amp device or 20 watts, not to bad but not likely easily operational on batteries. I just thought it was interesting verses the beagleboard as it has so much more available. A friend told new devices will be forth coming using the OMAP 4430 processor next yea

Re: [Emc-users] Beagle Board

2010-11-03 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday, November 03, 2010 01:36:56 pm Gary P. Fiber did opine: > New board coming out look at http://www.pandaboard.org/ > New processor, 802.11 and bluetooth wireless, faster processor than the > current Beagle Board. > Pandaboard is not associated with beagleboard however I see the last l

Re: [Emc-users] Beagle Board

2010-11-03 Thread Gary P. Fiber
New board coming out look at http://www.pandaboard.org/ New processor, 802.11 and bluetooth wireless, faster processor than the current Beagle Board. Pandaboard is not associated with beagleboard however -- Gary P. Fiber K8IZ General Radio Telephone Operators License PG-19-6691, with Shipboard

Re: [Emc-users] Beagle Board

2010-11-03 Thread Jon Elson
dambacher-retrofit.de wrote: > Hi Jon > > I wonder if the emc realtime compartibility layer can be adapted to native > linux > realtime using rt_preemt. Maybe this is a solution for future support of non > x86 > emc RT-preempt is conceivably good enough for some servo systems, it is guaranteed n

Re: [Emc-users] Beagle Board

2010-11-03 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 11/3/2010 2:36 AM, dambacher-retrofit.de wrote: > Hi Jon > > I wonder if the emc realtime compartibility layer can be adapted to native > linux > realtime using rt_preemt. Maybe this is a solution for future support of non > x86 > emc? > Is there a document describing emc's minimal environment

Re: [Emc-users] Beagle Board

2010-11-02 Thread dambacher-retrofit.de
Hi Jon I wonder if the emc realtime compartibility layer can be adapted to native linux realtime using rt_preemt. Maybe this is a solution for future support of non x86 emc? Is there a document describing emc's minimal environment (besides sources)? Ulf --

Re: [Emc-users] Beagle Board

2010-11-02 Thread Jon Elson
Kent A. Reed wrote: > Well, maybe, Jon, but I just downloaded RTLinuxFree from Wind River > Systems (who bought FSMLabs, who took RTLinux commercial a long time > ago). The downloaded file is named "rtlinux-3.2-wr.tar.bz2". > > The most recent Linux kernels for which it has patches are versions

Re: [Emc-users] Beagle Board

2010-11-02 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 11/2/2010 1:31 PM, Jon Elson wrote: > Erik Christiansen wrote: >> On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 11:53:32PM -0600, Jon Elson wrote: >> >>> Torsten Koschorrek, the ARM maintainer for RTAI has informed me he has >>> an RTAI patch ready for the Beagle Board. >>> >> Jon, is this Beagle Board + Touchscreen

Re: [Emc-users] Beagle Board

2010-11-02 Thread Jon Elson
Erik Christiansen wrote: > On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 11:53:32PM -0600, Jon Elson wrote: > >> Torsten Koschorrek, the ARM maintainer for RTAI has informed me he has >> an RTAI patch ready for the Beagle Board. >> > > Jon, is this Beagle Board + Touchscreen prototyping kit of any interest? > >

Re: [Emc-users] Beagle Board

2010-11-02 Thread Erik Christiansen
On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 11:53:32PM -0600, Jon Elson wrote: > Torsten Koschorrek, the ARM maintainer for RTAI has informed me he has > an RTAI patch ready for the Beagle Board. Jon, is this Beagle Board + Touchscreen prototyping kit of any interest? http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/LiquidW

Re: [Emc-users] Beagle Board

2010-03-14 Thread Mark Wendt (Contractor)
At 12:17 PM 3/13/2010, you wrote: >Elemental Hg isn't really very toxic at least compared to the >organo-mercurials. If any of this stuff was as dangerous as some people >would have us think we'd all be long gone. > >Benzene, toluene, methylene chloride, chloroform, trichloroethylene, >asbestos, pe

Re: [Emc-users] Beagle Board

2010-03-13 Thread Ian W. Wright
Ok, time to 'fess up back in the 60's when I was in grammar school (high school) we had chemistry lessons last thing on a friday afternoon. Now in those days in the UK we were still on the 'old money' and our copper pennies were about an inch in diameter. We also had a coin made of nickel

Re: [Emc-users] Beagle Board

2010-03-13 Thread Dave
On 3/13/2010 6:29 AM, Mark Wendt (Contractor) wrote: > At 01:37 PM 3/12/2010, you wrote: > >> Mark Wendt (Contractor) wrote: >> >>> Heh, and you're complaining that an x-ray inspection system is one of >>> those "can't do at home" kinda thingies... >>> >>> >> If you stick your han

Re: [Emc-users] Beagle Board

2010-03-13 Thread Andy Pugh
On 13 March 2010 16:17, dave wrote: > Elemental Hg isn't really very toxic at least compared to the > organo-mercurials. More to the point, it's pretty, and fun! Dimethylmercury though? You don't want to be anywhere near it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karen_Wetterhahn (Struggling to get back

Re: [Emc-users] Beagle Board

2010-03-13 Thread j...@coats.org
If you go search the EPA site, they have how to handle metallic mercury spills, like breaking a mercury thermometer, or florescent light. The elemental sulfur is a good top, I had not heard of that method. http://www.epa.gov/mercury/spills/ - what to do if you break a florescent bulb, CFL, or mer

Re: [Emc-users] Beagle Board

2010-03-13 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 13 March 2010, dave wrote: >On Sat, 2010-03-13 at 06:29 -0500, Mark Wendt (Contractor) wrote: >> At 01:37 PM 3/12/2010, you wrote: >> >Mark Wendt (Contractor) wrote: >> > > Heh, and you're complaining that an x-ray inspection system is one of >> > > those "can't do at home" kinda thingi

Re: [Emc-users] Beagle Board

2010-03-13 Thread dave
On Sat, 2010-03-13 at 06:29 -0500, Mark Wendt (Contractor) wrote: > At 01:37 PM 3/12/2010, you wrote: > >Mark Wendt (Contractor) wrote: > > > > > > Heh, and you're complaining that an x-ray inspection system is one of > > > those "can't do at home" kinda thingies... > > > > >If you stick your hand

Re: [Emc-users] Beagle Board

2010-03-13 Thread Mark Wendt (Contractor)
At 01:37 PM 3/12/2010, you wrote: >Mark Wendt (Contractor) wrote: > > > > Heh, and you're complaining that an x-ray inspection system is one of > > those "can't do at home" kinda thingies... > > >If you stick your hand past all the guards and manage to not tease the >door sensors, it could mash you

Re: [Emc-users] Beagle Board

2010-03-12 Thread Jon Elson
Mark Wendt (Contractor) wrote: > > Heh, and you're complaining that an x-ray inspection system is one of > those "can't do at home" kinda thingies... > If you stick your hand past all the guards and manage to not tease the door sensors, it could mash your hand, that's about the worst it could

Re: [Emc-users] Beagle Board

2010-03-12 Thread Jon Elson
Mark Wendt (Contractor) wrote: > > > C'mon Jon, sure you could do it at home. Ronco has just come out > with a new "Home X-Ray Machine" for $99.95. And if you order before > midnight tonight, they'll even throw in a set of Ginsu knives... > I'm in so deep, if the feds ever come for an inspec

Re: [Emc-users] Beagle Board

2010-03-12 Thread Dave
Jon, what's the problem? Don't you have the entire upstairs still available for an xray machine? Dave (admitted tool addict) On 3/12/2010 12:56 AM, Jon Elson wrote: > Yanjun Luo wrote: > >> It seems that you guys are very professional about it! I never try to >> manual solder it, I alwa

Re: [Emc-users] Beagle Board

2010-03-12 Thread Andy Pugh
On 12 March 2010 02:17, Jon Elson wrote: > Also, inspecting the BGAs is done with an X-ray inspection system. > Another "cant do that at home" > process. Unfortunately, that is true of me too now, but I used to work for a BGA inspection X-ray machine manufacturer as a mechanical designer. http:/

Re: [Emc-users] Beagle Board

2010-03-12 Thread Mark Wendt (Contractor)
At 12:56 AM 3/12/2010, you wrote: >Yanjun Luo wrote: > > It seems that you guys are very professional about it! I never try to > > manual solder it, I always let factory to solder it for me. I'll try to > > use BGA rework station later. > > >Well, there are those of us who are basket-case "tool nut

Re: [Emc-users] Beagle Board

2010-03-12 Thread Mark Wendt (Contractor)
At 09:17 PM 3/11/2010, you wrote: >Alex Joni wrote: >Also, inspecting the BGAs is done with an X-ray inspection system. >Another "cant do that at home" >process. > >Jon C'mon Jon, sure you could do it at home. Ronco has just come out with a new "Home X-Ray Machine" for $99.95. And if you ord

Re: [Emc-users] Beagle Board

2010-03-11 Thread Jon Elson
Yanjun Luo wrote: > It seems that you guys are very professional about it! I never try to > manual solder it, I always let factory to solder it for me. I'll try to > use BGA rework station later. > Well, there are those of us who are basket-case "tool nuts". For instance, I have a pick and pla

Re: [Emc-users] Beagle Board

2010-03-11 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Thu, 11 Mar 2010, Stephen Wille Padnos wrote: > Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 21:37:32 -0500 > From: Stephen Wille Padnos > Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > > To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Beagle Board

Re: [Emc-users] Beagle Board

2010-03-11 Thread Stephen Wille Padnos
Peter C. Wallace wrote: > [snip] > Yeah, just build up a little corral for the chip with maybe 5 mils or so slop > on each side. (surface tension will bring chip into alignment when the solder > balls melt) liberally flux and apply hot air gun to back of card, no solder > paste needed. I wouldn't _

Re: [Emc-users] Beagle Board

2010-03-11 Thread Yanjun Luo
在 2010-03-11四的 20:17 -0600,Jon Elson写道: > Alex Joni wrote: > > BGA's sure are tricky, but you can solder them manually using a hot air > > system (seen a friend of mine doing it a couple times). > > the only problem is aligning them, that takes a bit of skill... > > > Aligning them could be don

Re: [Emc-users] Beagle Board

2010-03-11 Thread Yanjun Luo
> > BGA's sure are tricky, but you can solder them manually using a hot air > > system (seen a friend of mine doing it a couple times). > > the only problem is aligning them, that takes a bit of skill... > > > > Regards, > > Alex > > > Yeah, just build up a little corral for the chip with maybe

Re: [Emc-users] Beagle Board

2010-03-11 Thread Jon Elson
Alex Joni wrote: > BGA's sure are tricky, but you can solder them manually using a hot air > system (seen a friend of mine doing it a couple times). > the only problem is aligning them, that takes a bit of skill... > Aligning them could be done with a fixture with a square hole in it. But, if

Re: [Emc-users] Beagle Board

2010-03-11 Thread Yanjun Luo
在 2010-03-11四的 11:49 -0600,Jon Elson写道: > Yanjun Luo wrote: > > Here is my project web site, http://code.google.com/p/openomap/ > > > WOW! Very impressive! How do you deal with the BGA parts? I don't > know how to solder them. I sent the PCB board and chips to factory to solder them. Maybe

Re: [Emc-users] Beagle Board

2010-03-11 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Thu, 11 Mar 2010, Alex Joni wrote: > Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 20:47:48 +0200 > From: Alex Joni > Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > > To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Beagle Board > > BGA's

Re: [Emc-users] Beagle Board

2010-03-11 Thread Alex Joni
hine Controller (EMC)" Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 7:49 PM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Beagle Board > Yanjun Luo wrote: >> Here is my project web site, http://code.google.com/p/openomap/ >> > WOW! Very impressive! How do you deal with the BGA parts?

Re: [Emc-users] Beagle Board

2010-03-11 Thread Jon Elson
Yanjun Luo wrote: > Here is my project web site, http://code.google.com/p/openomap/ > WOW! Very impressive! How do you deal with the BGA parts? I don't know how to solder them. Jon -- Download Intel® Parallel Studi

Re: [Emc-users] Beagle Board

2010-03-10 Thread Yanjun Luo
在 2010-03-10三的 23:53 -0600,Jon Elson写道: > Torsten Koschorrek, the ARM maintainer for RTAI has informed me he has > an RTAI patch ready for the Beagle Board. > He is working on a 2.6.29 kernel, but hasn't uploaded the latest docs > for it yet. That should happen in a couple days, he > says. So

[Emc-users] Beagle Board

2010-03-10 Thread Jon Elson
Torsten Koschorrek, the ARM maintainer for RTAI has informed me he has an RTAI patch ready for the Beagle Board. He is working on a 2.6.29 kernel, but hasn't uploaded the latest docs for it yet. That should happen in a couple days, he says. So, if anyone wants to try out this patch kit, there i