Re: [Emc-users] Fanuc Spindle Motor Encoder PPR

2015-06-02 Thread Rick Lair
After all this back and forth, we finally realized that we had to do something firm, so after thoroughly look at the internals of the spindle, and some engineering, we are mounting an encoder with a 1:1 belt drive off of the spindle, there was a sleeve in the middle of the spindle, just long e

Re: [Emc-users] Fanuc Spindle Motor Encoder PPR (Bruce Layne)

2015-05-23 Thread Greg Bentzinger
When thread timing is critical, as others have said, its time to look at thread milling. I have a repeat job for a company doing warranty retrofits, having to replace an out of production assy with a replacement made by a different vendor. The replacements are mounted on the rear side of the fr

Re: [Emc-users] Fanuc Spindle Motor Encoder PPR

2015-05-23 Thread Jon Elson
On 05/23/2015 07:24 AM, Chris Kelley wrote: > Rick, > > I'm working on a Fanuc spindle that uses that same "encoder" (my motor is a > Model 3 PN: A06B-1003-B100 at 3.7/5.5kW) on a Burgmaster Powerhawk VTC-150. > > It's not actually an encoder but a magnetic pulse generator that reads the > teeth on

Re: [Emc-users] Fanuc Spindle Motor Encoder PPR

2015-05-23 Thread Chris Kelley
e" > To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > Sent: Fri, 22 May 2015 13:27:40 -0400 > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Fanuc Spindle Motor Encoder PPR > > Hey Chris, > > Nice video! Nice LinuxCNC VMC! > > I noticed that your spindle is indexed randomly at the

Re: [Emc-users] Fanuc Spindle Motor Encoder PPR

2015-05-22 Thread pc
Thread mill? Easy to have exact thread orientation that way. --Original Mail-- From: "Bruce Layne" To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" Sent: Fri, 22 May 2015 13:27:40 -0400 Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Fanuc Spindle Motor Encoder PPR Hey Chris, Nice video! N

Re: [Emc-users] Fanuc Spindle Motor Encoder PPR

2015-05-22 Thread Bruce Layne
Hey Chris, Nice video! Nice LinuxCNC VMC! I noticed that your spindle is indexed randomly at the start and end of each rigid tapping cycle. This verifies Andy's assertion that LinuxCNC only uses the index pulse to initiate rigid tapping and uses the other spindle encoder signals exclusively

Re: [Emc-users] Fanuc Spindle Motor Encoder PPR

2015-05-22 Thread Dave Cole
A couple of years ago I worked with the local Fanuc service guy on a couple of machines and he mentioned that he was using Mach3 to make some small simple routers. I asked him if he had heard of LinuxCNC and he hadn't. After that, every pause waiting for software to load was spent talking a

Re: [Emc-users] Fanuc Spindle Motor Encoder PPR

2015-05-22 Thread Chris Radek
On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 01:32:23PM +0100, andy pugh wrote: > > I believe that the cycle uses the index at most once per in-out move, > so as long as you are not peck-tapping it will still work. On my vmc, there is an untoothed belt drive between the spindle and motor. The spindle encoder is on t

Re: [Emc-users] Fanuc Spindle Motor Encoder PPR

2015-05-22 Thread Rick Lair
Maybe this thing isn't an encoder, the Fanuc PN is A02B-9000-0010, here is a link to a replacement, http://www.ebay.com/itm/1PC-USED-FANUC-SPINDLE-MOTOR-SENSOR-A20B-9000-0010-/331114801033?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4d17fae789 I have a square wave on the halscope, on channel B, but channel A

Re: [Emc-users] Fanuc Spindle Motor Encoder PPR

2015-05-22 Thread andy pugh
On 22 May 2015 at 13:49, Rick Lair wrote: > if it comes > to that, then I will need to get real creative with an encoder on the > spindle itself. Or mandate that peck-tapping is done in gear 1:1 -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto -

Re: [Emc-users] Fanuc Spindle Motor Encoder PPR

2015-05-22 Thread Rick Lair
On 5/22/2015 8:32 AM, andy pugh wrote: > On 22 May 2015 at 13:21, Stuart Stevenson wrote: >> If you add an index to the spindle then you might as well add an encoder to >> the spindle. That would solve the rigid tapping problem. I would rather go this route, but there is zero room to add any of t

Re: [Emc-users] Fanuc Spindle Motor Encoder PPR

2015-05-22 Thread andy pugh
On 22 May 2015 at 13:21, Stuart Stevenson wrote: > If you add an index to the spindle then you might as well add an encoder to > the spindle. That would solve the rigid tapping problem. I am not convinced that there is a rigid-tapping problem. I believe that the cycle uses the index at most once

Re: [Emc-users] Fanuc Spindle Motor Encoder PPR

2015-05-22 Thread Stuart Stevenson
roblem? > > - Original Message - > From: "andy pugh" > To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > Sent: Friday, May 22, 2015 7:17:52 AM > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Fanuc Spindle Motor Encoder PPR > > On 22 May 2015 at 12:09, Rick Lair wrote: > > Another

Re: [Emc-users] Fanuc Spindle Motor Encoder PPR

2015-05-22 Thread Todd Zuercher
What if he were to add an index to the spindle. would that fix the rigid tapping problem? - Original Message - From: "andy pugh" To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" Sent: Friday, May 22, 2015 7:17:52 AM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Fanuc Spindle Motor Encoder PPR

Re: [Emc-users] Fanuc Spindle Motor Encoder PPR

2015-05-22 Thread andy pugh
On 22 May 2015 at 12:41, Rick Lair wrote: > Now I see what you mean, individual gearchange components for each signal, The other way to do it is to keep the gearchange for the comand, but for the feedback use a mux2 to choose either of the two inverse scales and then use that mux2 output to set

Re: [Emc-users] Fanuc Spindle Motor Encoder PPR

2015-05-22 Thread Rick Lair
Ohh, Now I see what you mean, individual gearchange components for each signal, That makes sense, still half to fully wrap my head around it to get it configured, but I see where you were going. Rick On 5/22/2015 7:32 AM, andy pugh wrote: > On 22 May 2015 at 12:25, Rick Lair wr

Re: [Emc-users] Fanuc Spindle Motor Encoder PPR

2015-05-22 Thread andy pugh
On 22 May 2015 at 12:25, Rick Lair wrote: > I already have the gearchange configured, I was just trying to get the > feedback correct on the visual readout on the screen, You might want three of them, one for spindle command, one for encoder velocity and one for encoder position. > Do you think

Re: [Emc-users] Fanuc Spindle Motor Encoder PPR

2015-05-22 Thread Rick Lair
I already have the gearchange configured, I was just trying to get the feedback correct on the visual readout on the screen, Do you think that under these circumstances, it eliminates the chance of rigid tapping on this machine? On 5/22/2015 7:17 AM, andy pugh wrote: > On 22 May 2015 at 12:09

Re: [Emc-users] Fanuc Spindle Motor Encoder PPR

2015-05-22 Thread andy pugh
On 22 May 2015 at 12:09, Rick Lair wrote: > Another question regarding this, seems how the encoder is on the motor, > and there is a 2 speed transmission on the spindle, High is 1:1 and low > 1:6.325, what HAL component, other than SCALE, do I need to use to > change the ratio for the low speed fe

Re: [Emc-users] Fanuc Spindle Motor Encoder PPR

2015-05-22 Thread Rick Lair
Gave those guys a call, talked to tech support for almost a half hour, 5 mins about my motor, the other 25 about Linuxcnc, and all of its advantages over "the other guys". The tech guy had vaguely heard of Linuxcnc, saw the webpage a few times, and heard a few things along the way, and also had

Re: [Emc-users] Fanuc Spindle Motor Encoder PPR

2015-05-21 Thread Matt Tucci
I had a c axis with a 10,000 pulse coder red top fanuc motor. Call the people at http://www.fanucworld.com/ , Tennesee Industrial Electronics, they'll tell you what it is. On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 1:01 PM, Dave Caroline wrote: > If you have it wired, just rotate n turns and watch the variable get

Re: [Emc-users] Fanuc Spindle Motor Encoder PPR

2015-05-21 Thread Dave Caroline
If you have it wired, just rotate n turns and watch the variable get updated in halmeter should come to some sensible number I wouldnt be surprised to see it being n*(700 or 8000 clue in the part number)* 4 Dave Caroline On 21/05/2015, Rick Lair wrote: > I have a Fanuc spindle motor on the VMC

[Emc-users] Fanuc Spindle Motor Encoder PPR

2015-05-21 Thread Rick Lair
I have a Fanuc spindle motor on the VMC I am retrofitting right now, and I intercepted the motor encoder cable, with an ENCY card from Mesa, the machine was open loop in regards to the spindle prior to this. Would anyone know what the PPR might be on one of these, I didn't know if they used a