Re: [Emc-users] Path Pilot on LinuxCNC -- Was MachineKit on the BeagleBone Black

2017-10-14 Thread Marius Liebenberg
Not sure what the conditions are but I dont remember any restrictions. Please PM me for the link. -- Original Message -- From: "Chris Albertson" To: "Marius Liebenberg" ; "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"

Re: [Emc-users] Path Pilot on LinuxCNC -- Was MachineKit on the BeagleBone Black

2017-10-13 Thread Chris Albertson
I assume it is redistributable. Can you place the data some place where others can see it? On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 4:30 AM, Marius Liebenberg wrote: > I have a source code CD that I paid $10 for to cover shipping and other > costs. > > > Tormach says they don't support

Re: [Emc-users] Path Pilot on LinuxCNC -- Was MachineKit on the BeagleBone Black

2017-10-13 Thread Marius Liebenberg
I have a source code CD that I paid $10 for to cover shipping and other costs. Tormach says they don't support path pilot on 3rd party equipment. It likely depends on specialized hardware so it would not run without modification and I don't think they have source code available. As

Re: [Emc-users] Path Pilot on LinuxCNC -- Was MachineKit on the BeagleBone Black

2017-10-13 Thread Chris Albertson
On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 5:51 PM, John Dammeyer wrote: > Click into the field and hit F1 and get a full paragraph explanation with > examples. Think how long EMC or Linux CNC has been around and figure it might be around thatch longer. OK so it is not 2025 Problem:

Re: [Emc-users] Path Pilot on LinuxCNC -- Was MachineKit on the BeagleBone Black

2017-10-13 Thread Chris Albertson
there are several ways to handle this. (1) When an internal object needs a config file entry it defines the entry along with a validation method. Later the configuration form is created dynamically from all the parameter definitions. ou can embed the parameter definitions right inside the

Re: [Emc-users] Path Pilot on LinuxCNC -- Was MachineKit on the BeagleBone Black

2017-10-12 Thread John Dammeyer
Hi Chris, It's even simpler than that. Free XML editors are all over the place. Even on Windows. The application should know ahead of time which parameters like "DIRSETUP" are required. So a form or series of forms for all these parameters that do range checking. And what's really cool, if

Re: [Emc-users] Path Pilot on LinuxCNC -- Was MachineKit on the BeagleBone Black

2017-10-12 Thread andy pugh
On 13 October 2017 at 00:31, Chris Albertson wrote: > At the very least this could have been implemented with an HTML form > where clicking on the parameter name brings up a pop-up wit the parameter's > definition Except that the INI file entries are entirely

Re: [Emc-users] Path Pilot on LinuxCNC -- Was MachineKit on the BeagleBone Black

2017-10-12 Thread Chris Albertson
On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 3:17 PM, John Dammeyer wrote: > > I would much prefer to edit a well thought out and documented config file > > than use pretty much any Grunt n' Click interface. > > People who come from Win and OSX are not used to that, so it seems crude > to > >

Re: [Emc-users] Path Pilot on LinuxCNC -- Was MachineKit on the BeagleBone Black

2017-10-12 Thread John Dammeyer
> I would much prefer to edit a well thought out and documented config file > than use pretty much any Grunt n' Click interface. > People who come from Win and OSX are not used to that, so it seems crude to > them at first, but they soon learn to wield the powerful text editor with > the best of

Re: [Emc-users] Path Pilot on LinuxCNC -- Was MachineKit on the BeagleBone Black

2017-10-12 Thread Nicklas Karlsson
On Thu, 12 Oct 2017 15:17:09 -0400 Kurt Jacobson wrote: > I would much prefer to edit a well thought out and documented config file > than use pretty much any Grunt n' Click interface. Agree. > People who come from Win and OSX are not used to that, so it seems crude to

Re: [Emc-users] Path Pilot on LinuxCNC -- Was MachineKit on the BeagleBone Black

2017-10-12 Thread Nicklas Karlsson
> >>I think it is clear that end users should never have to edit a text file.<< > > What! Why ?? > > So we get rid of Gcode entirely since they are text files?? > > When my Mom sends me an email she creates and edits a text file. She's 87. > > Why would we want to restrict users to "point

Re: [Emc-users] Path Pilot on LinuxCNC -- Was MachineKit on the BeagleBone Black

2017-10-12 Thread Kurt Jacobson
I would much prefer to edit a well thought out and documented config file than use pretty much any Grunt n' Click interface. People who come from Win and OSX are not used to that, so it seems crude to them at first, but they soon learn to wield the powerful text editor with the best of them. At

Re: [Emc-users] Path Pilot on LinuxCNC -- Was MachineKit on the BeagleBone Black

2017-10-12 Thread Dave Cole
I think it is clear that end users should never have to edit a text file.<< What! Why ?? So we get rid of Gcode entirely since they are text files?? When my Mom sends me an email she creates and edits a text file. She's 87. Why would we want to restrict users to "point and click"? Dave

Re: [Emc-users] Path Pilot on LinuxCNC -- Was MachineKit on the BeagleBone Black

2017-10-12 Thread Chris Albertson
Yes, that is true about Apple. I think it is a good analogy. In both cases Neither Tormach or Apple make it easy to run on 3rd party hardware and doing so is only for experts Anyone have a link the PP? Especially PP source code? On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 10:44 AM, Martin Dobbins

Re: [Emc-users] Path Pilot on LinuxCNC -- Was MachineKit on the BeagleBone Black

2017-10-12 Thread Sebastian Kuzminsky
On 10/12/2017 12:07 PM, Kurt Jacobson wrote: On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 1:01 PM, Chris Albertson wrote: Tormach says they don't support path pilot on 3rd party equipment. It likely depends on specialized hardware so it would not run without modification and I don't

Re: [Emc-users] Path Pilot on LinuxCNC -- Was MachineKit on the BeagleBone Black

2017-10-12 Thread Kurt Jacobson
On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 1:01 PM, Chris Albertson wrote: > Tormach says they don't support path pilot on 3rd party equipment. It > likely > depends on specialized hardware so it would not run without modification > and I don't think they have source code available. >

Re: [Emc-users] Path Pilot on LinuxCNC -- Was MachineKit on the BeagleBone Black

2017-10-12 Thread Kurt Jacobson
As far as I can tell PathPilot is basically Linuxcnc 2.6 with some minor tweaks and a fancy (and SLOW to load) GUI. I set up PathPilot on my mill the the other day so see how difficult it actually was, and for S I even hooked up the onscreen override sliders so they would update appropriately

Re: [Emc-users] Path Pilot on LinuxCNC -- Was MachineKit on the BeagleBone Black

2017-10-12 Thread Martin Dobbins
Some folks just want to buy a cake NOW. Microsoft has educated the world that way. Apple doesn't support its OS on non- Apple hardware either, but people still do it. Path Pilot is not an operating system it is a front end user interface, and I believe (as Andy says) that if someone sets

Re: [Emc-users] Path Pilot on LinuxCNC -- Was MachineKit on the BeagleBone Black

2017-10-12 Thread Chris Albertson
Tormach says they don't support path pilot on 3rd party equipment. It likely depends on specialized hardware so it would not run without modification and I don't think they have source code available. But what they did should serve as an example of what an open source controller could look

Re: [Emc-users] Path Pilot on LinuxCNC -- Was MachineKit on the BeagleBone Black

2017-10-12 Thread John Dammeyer
MACH3 apparently won't run on 64bit machines without a parallel port. MACH4 was supposed to be the successor and support more of the 64bit machines and external stepper engines. Not only that they have a licensing method that is tied to the hardware and more expensive for commercial systems. In