Re: [Emc-users] Surface-Mount

2012-06-15 Thread Moses McKnight
On 01/02/2012 09:46 AM, Peter C. Wallace wrote: > A hair dryer is close but a little too cool. A hot air gun (the type used with > heat-shrink tubing) will work. An inexpensive source for one of these is a paint remover heat gun. I bought several at Lowes (Lumber/Building supplies) for $25 each.

Re: [Emc-users] Surface-Mount

2012-01-04 Thread Mark Wendt
On 01/03/2012 04:01 PM, Steve Blackmore wrote: >>> >>> >> That's cuz you guys in the UK have an accent and talk funny... ;-) >> >> Solder, and pronounced "sodder." >> > Probably first heard of in the colonies from some village idiot with a > speech impediment who we gladly exported a

Re: [Emc-users] Surface-Mount

2012-01-03 Thread Jon Elson
Steve Blackmore wrote: > On Tue, 03 Jan 2012 05:38:45 -0500, you wrote: > > >> On 01/02/2012 03:15 PM, andy pugh wrote: >> >>> On 2 January 2012 19:59, Mike Payson wrote: >>> >>> >>> Skillet/hotplate soldering works great for those situations: http://www.youtube.com/wa

Re: [Emc-users] Surface-Mount

2012-01-03 Thread Peter Blodow
Jon Elson schrieb: > Peter Blodow wrote: > >> Hello gentlemen, >> the point is that the long "o" in solder is pronounced in US english >> like "aw" in a common process known as delabilisation or unrounding. >> >> > It is extremely rare to hear it pronounced "sawder" in the US, although

Re: [Emc-users] Surface-Mount

2012-01-03 Thread Steve Blackmore
On Tue, 03 Jan 2012 05:38:45 -0500, you wrote: >On 01/02/2012 03:15 PM, andy pugh wrote: >> On 2 January 2012 19:59, Mike Payson wrote: >> >> >>> Skillet/hotplate soldering works great for those situations: >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uov0SPHKcnk >>> >> How do you spell "Solder"

Re: [Emc-users] Surface-Mount

2012-01-03 Thread Jon Elson
Peter Blodow wrote: > Hello gentlemen, > the point is that the long "o" in solder is pronounced in US english > like "aw" in a common process known as delabilisation or unrounding. > It is extremely rare to hear it pronounced "sawder" in the US, although I have heard that pronunciation once o

Re: [Emc-users] Surface-Mount

2012-01-03 Thread Mark Wendt
On 01/03/2012 01:36 AM, Peter Blodow wrote: > Hello gentlemen, > the point is that the long "o" in solder is pronounced in US english > like "aw" in a common process known as delabilisation or unrounding. > This phenomenon is known in other languages, too, e.g. in Russian ("eto" > is pronounced lik

Re: [Emc-users] Surface-Mount

2012-01-03 Thread Mark Wendt
On 01/02/2012 03:15 PM, andy pugh wrote: > On 2 January 2012 19:59, Mike Payson wrote: > > >> Skillet/hotplate soldering works great for those situations: >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uov0SPHKcnk >> > How do you spell "Solder" in the US? All the videos seem to pronounce > it "sodder

Re: [Emc-users] Surface-Mount

2012-01-02 Thread Peter Blodow
Hello gentlemen, the point is that the long "o" in solder is pronounced in US english like "aw" in a common process known as delabilisation or unrounding. This phenomenon is known in other languages, too, e.g. in Russian ("eto" is pronounced like "eta"). The same is true with "lot" or "bother".

Re: [Emc-users] Surface-Mount

2012-01-02 Thread Jon Elson
andy pugh wrote: > On 2 January 2012 19:59, Mike Payson wrote: > > >> Skillet/hotplate soldering works great for those situations: >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uov0SPHKcnk >> > > How do you spell "Solder" in the US? All the videos seem to pronounce > it "sodder" whereas I have only ev

Re: [Emc-users] Surface-Mount

2012-01-02 Thread Martin Patton
We spell it "solder" but say it "sawder". Reason is unknown to me. -- Write once. Port to many. Get the SDK and tools to simplify cross-platform app development. Create new or port existing apps to sell to consumers worldw

Re: [Emc-users] Surface-Mount

2012-01-02 Thread gene heskett
On Monday, January 02, 2012 04:02:42 PM andy pugh did opine: > On 2 January 2012 19:59, Mike Payson wrote: > > Skillet/hotplate soldering works great for those situations: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uov0SPHKcnk > > How do you spell "Solder" in the US? All the videos seem to pronounce > i

Re: [Emc-users] Surface-Mount

2012-01-02 Thread Mike Payson
It is spelled Solder, but pronounced as if the L was silent, "sodder". On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 12:15 PM, andy pugh wrote: > On 2 January 2012 19:59, Mike Payson wrote: > > > Skillet/hotplate soldering works great for those situations: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uov0SPHKcnk > > How do you

Re: [Emc-users] Surface-Mount

2012-01-02 Thread R.L. Wurdack
Something like 3 is pronounced in Hants - fwreee, or something like that. (I have seldom heard the 'l' in the US.) D. - Original Message - From: "andy pugh" To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" Sent: Monday, January 02, 2012 12:15 PM Subject: Re: [E

Re: [Emc-users] Surface-Mount

2012-01-02 Thread andy pugh
On 2 January 2012 19:59, Mike Payson wrote: > Skillet/hotplate soldering works great for those situations: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uov0SPHKcnk How do you spell "Solder" in the US? All the videos seem to pronounce it "sodder" whereas I have only ever heard it pronounced "solder" or "sowl

Re: [Emc-users] Surface-Mount

2012-01-02 Thread Mike Payson
On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 11:19 AM, Jon Elson wrote: > If the pads are completely covered by the part, you have a real dilemma! > About the only way to solder these are IR reflow or hot air. A hair dryer > doesn't get hot enough, a heat gun is probably too much for sensitive > parts. > There are ho

Re: [Emc-users] Surface-Mount

2012-01-02 Thread Jon Elson
gene heskett wrote: > Ed Nisely had > an article in CC some time back where he used a toaster oven for that, > IIRC. I also do production work with a toaster oven! I have a ramp and soak temperature controller from Omega, and found the best control was to poke the thermocouple into a plated

Re: [Emc-users] Surface-Mount

2012-01-02 Thread andy pugh
On 2 January 2012 19:19, Jon Elson wrote: > If the pads are completely covered by the part, you have a real dilemma! > About the only way to solder these are IR reflow or hot air. I seem to have had some luck with solder paste and conducted heat down strip-board tracks. (though the pitch is rath

Re: [Emc-users] Surface-Mount

2012-01-02 Thread Jon Elson
andy pugh wrote: > I have some surface-mount opto-sensors which have pads on the > underside, but no pins as such. > Can anyone suggest how to solder them to PCB pads? I currently have a > soldering iron, blowtorch, gas cooker and a hairdryer, though I am not > averse to buying other tools. > Hm

Re: [Emc-users] Surface-Mount

2012-01-02 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Mon, 2 Jan 2012, andy pugh wrote: Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 16:13:28 + From: andy pugh Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Surface-Mount On 2 January 2012 16:01, Peter C. Wallace wrote:

Re: [Emc-users] Surface-Mount

2012-01-02 Thread gene heskett
On Monday, January 02, 2012 12:23:13 PM andy pugh did opine: > I have some surface-mount opto-sensors which have pads on the > underside, but no pins as such. > Can anyone suggest how to solder them to PCB pads? I currently have a > soldering iron, blowtorch, gas cooker and a hairdryer, though I a

Re: [Emc-users] Surface-Mount

2012-01-02 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Mon, 2 Jan 2012, andy pugh wrote: Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 16:13:28 + From: andy pugh Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Surface-Mount On 2 January 2012 16:01, Peter C. Wallace wrote:

Re: [Emc-users] Surface-Mount

2012-01-02 Thread andy pugh
On 2 January 2012 16:01, Peter C. Wallace wrote: >> To add to the fun, I have back-mounted optos too.. > > That does add to the fun... I hope they are not back to back. Guess what… One hopeful point is that I made the board pads oversize, so I might even be able to use a soldering iron. -- at

Re: [Emc-users] Surface-Mount

2012-01-02 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Mon, 2 Jan 2012, andy pugh wrote: > Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 16:01:43 + > From: andy pugh > Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > > To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Surface-Mount > > On 2 January

Re: [Emc-users] Surface-Mount

2012-01-02 Thread andy pugh
On 2 January 2012 15:46, Peter C. Wallace wrote: > A hair dryer is close but a little too cool. A hot air gun (the type used with > heat-shrink tubing) will work. OK, one has been on my "to-buy" list for a while, but so far the hairdryer has worked. > You will also want some solder paste I do

Re: [Emc-users] Surface-Mount

2012-01-02 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Mon, 2 Jan 2012, andy pugh wrote: > Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 15:32:18 + > From: andy pugh > Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > > To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > Subject: [Emc-users] Surface-Mount > > I have some surfa

Re: [Emc-users] Surface-Mount

2012-01-02 Thread Gary P. Fiber
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NN7UGWYmBY Good video, Goes over the basics of soldering SMD chips. They use flux a lot to help clean and direct the solder where to go as many carry the solder on the hot tip to the smd component and the built in rosin usually boils away. Gary K8IZ On 1/2/2012

[Emc-users] Surface-Mount

2012-01-02 Thread andy pugh
I have some surface-mount opto-sensors which have pads on the underside, but no pins as such. Can anyone suggest how to solder them to PCB pads? I currently have a soldering iron, blowtorch, gas cooker and a hairdryer, though I am not averse to buying other tools. -- atp The idea that there is no