Re: [Emc-users] Tapping G code

2013-08-15 Thread Steve Blackmore
On Thu, 15 Aug 2013 06:13:15 -0500, you wrote: >What does the next paragraph mean? >> For softer or harder materials you just use the appropriate >> diameter/pitch faster. A fastener only needs to do the job it's designed to do and/or support the load it's designed to support. For softer mater

Re: [Emc-users] Tapping G code

2013-08-15 Thread dave
On Thu, 2013-08-15 at 09:35 -0400, Dave wrote: > >>Would it be better to just drop the 50% part of the G code calculator > and let the savvy look up their hole sizes in MH and just focus on the G > code? > > << > > No! I'm not that savvy... :-) > > Besides that takes more time.. > > Dave

Re: [Emc-users] Tapping G code

2013-08-15 Thread Dave
>>Would it be better to just drop the 50% part of the G code calculator and let the savvy look up their hole sizes in MH and just focus on the G code? << No! I'm not that savvy... :-) Besides that takes more time.. Dave On 8/15/2013 7:44 AM, John Thornton wrote: > According to the M

Re: [Emc-users] Tapping G code

2013-08-15 Thread John Thornton
According to the MH holes for tapping have a range depending on depth of thread engagement. For Class 1A and 2A they are: up to 1/3D, 1/3D to 2/3D, 2/3D to 1 1/2D, 1 1/2D to 3D. The range covers about 60% to 80% thread depth. Would it be better to just drop the 50% part of the G code calculator

Re: [Emc-users] Tapping G code

2013-08-15 Thread John Thornton
It looks like from further reading in the MH the "standard" only goes as low as 60% JT On 8/15/2013 4:17 AM, andy pugh wrote: > On 15 August 2013 06:25, Marius Liebenberg wrote: > >>> nominal thread diameter - pitch. >> Now would that be a 50% or 75% thread. > 75%. (50% threads are a deviation

Re: [Emc-users] Tapping G code

2013-08-15 Thread John Thornton
g here. And > if I have learned nothing I can teach nothing. :) > > On 2013/08/15 03:02 AM, Gregg Eshelman wrote: >> On Wed, 8/14/13, Marius Liebenberg wrote: >> >> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Tapping G code >>To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net >>

Re: [Emc-users] Tapping G code

2013-08-15 Thread John Thornton
On 8/15/2013 1:57 AM, Steve Blackmore wrote: > On Thu, 15 Aug 2013 07:25:44 +0200, you wrote: > >> Now would that be a 50% or 75% thread. JT's tables needs both. One for >> softer metals and the other for the harder stuff. > Metric threads are usually specified as .65H In the Machinery's Handbook

Re: [Emc-users] Tapping G code

2013-08-15 Thread andy pugh
On 15 August 2013 10:17, andy pugh wrote: > On 15 August 2013 06:25, Marius Liebenberg wrote: > >>> nominal thread diameter - pitch. > >> Now would that be a 50% or 75% thread. > > 75%. (50% threads are a deviation from the standard) By the way, as the ISO metric and ASME / UN thread forms are

Re: [Emc-users] Tapping G code

2013-08-15 Thread John Thornton
if I have learned nothing I can teach nothing. :) > > On 2013/08/15 03:02 AM, Gregg Eshelman wrote: >> On Wed, 8/14/13, Marius Liebenberg wrote: >> >> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Tapping G code >>To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net >>Date: Wednesday, August

Re: [Emc-users] Tapping G code

2013-08-15 Thread andy pugh
On 15 August 2013 06:25, Marius Liebenberg wrote: >> nominal thread diameter - pitch. > Now would that be a 50% or 75% thread. 75%. (50% threads are a deviation from the standard) -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto --

Re: [Emc-users] Tapping G code

2013-08-15 Thread Steve Blackmore
On Thu, 15 Aug 2013 07:25:44 +0200, you wrote: >Now would that be a 50% or 75% thread. JT's tables needs both. One for >softer metals and the other for the harder stuff. Metric threads are usually specified as .65H I've never seen any deviation in percentage diameter specified for softer or har

Re: [Emc-users] Tapping G code

2013-08-14 Thread Marius Liebenberg
Now would that be a 50% or 75% thread. JT's tables needs both. One for softer metals and the other for the harder stuff. On 2013/08/15 03:19 AM, andy pugh wrote: > On 15 August 2013 02:02, Gregg Eshelman wrote: > >> How about just going to Google and searching for a metric tap drill chart? > It'

Re: [Emc-users] Tapping G code

2013-08-14 Thread Marius Liebenberg
@ Greg I need to know how to do it. Otherwise I have learned nothing here. And if I have learned nothing I can teach nothing. :) On 2013/08/15 03:02 AM, Gregg Eshelman wrote: > On Wed, 8/14/13, Marius Liebenberg wrote: > > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Tapping G code > T

Re: [Emc-users] Tapping G code

2013-08-14 Thread andy pugh
On 15 August 2013 02:02, Gregg Eshelman wrote: > How about just going to Google and searching for a metric tap drill chart? It's actually very easy. For a metric thread the tapping drill is the nominal thread diameter - pitch. M6 x 1 ? 5mm tapping drill. M10 x 1.75? 8.2mm tapping drill. -- a

Re: [Emc-users] Tapping G code

2013-08-14 Thread Gregg Eshelman
On Wed, 8/14/13, Marius Liebenberg wrote: Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Tapping G code To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Date: Wednesday, August 14, 2013, 4:34 AM JT What is the correct way to calculate the drill sizes please. I will do the metric table but I just need to know what is the

Re: [Emc-users] Tapping G code

2013-08-14 Thread Marius Liebenberg
Ok, good. I will help with checking once you are done. On 2013/08/14 12:47 PM, John Thornton wrote: > Thanks, but Rob did the conversion last night and now I'm adding metric > fine and metric coarse to it. > > The metric side will need to be checked for accuracy as soon as I'm done. > > JT > > On

Re: [Emc-users] Tapping G code

2013-08-14 Thread John Thornton
Thanks, but Rob did the conversion last night and now I'm adding metric fine and metric coarse to it. The metric side will need to be checked for accuracy as soon as I'm done. JT On 8/14/2013 5:34 AM, Marius Liebenberg wrote: > JT > What is the correct way to calculate the drill sizes please. I

Re: [Emc-users] Tapping G code

2013-08-14 Thread Marius Liebenberg
JT What is the correct way to calculate the drill sizes please. I will do the metric table but I just need to know what is the right way. On 2013/08/13 04:30 PM, John Thornton wrote: > Oh I forgot to mention I converted the first line of each type of tap as > an example. > > JT > > On 8/13/2013 9

Re: [Emc-users] Tapping G code

2013-08-13 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 13 August 2013 13:52:32 John Thornton did opine: > Your having way too much fun Gene. > Love it John, but tell that to the aching calf muscle from a charley horse I woke up with Sunday morning that is still making me do a pretty good imitation of a limp. Getting to be my age is NOT

Re: [Emc-users] Tapping G code

2013-08-13 Thread John Thornton
Your having way too much fun Gene. On 8/13/2013 9:50 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Tuesday 13 August 2013 10:15:50 John Thornton did opine: > >> I know most of you guys on the mailing list don't visit the forum so >> here is a link to a G code generator for drilling and tapping holes on a >> mill.

Re: [Emc-users] Tapping G code

2013-08-13 Thread Dave
On 8/13/2013 12:00 PM, Viesturs Lācis wrote: > increasing the initial drill size so that height of actual thread profile > is 50% / 75% of the standard (theoretical) thread profile height? > That is it.. Dave -- Get

Re: [Emc-users] Tapping G code

2013-08-13 Thread Kirk Wallace
On 08/13/2013 09:00 AM, Viesturs Lācis wrote: > 2013/8/13 John Thornton > >> When tapping in steel it is only necessary to have %50 thread depth and >> %75 thread depth in soft materials. > > > Do you mean it to have tapped 50% / 75% of hole's depth or do you mean > increasing the initial drill

Re: [Emc-users] Tapping G code

2013-08-13 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2013/8/13 John Thornton > When tapping in steel it is only necessary to have %50 thread depth and > %75 thread depth in soft materials. Do you mean it to have tapped 50% / 75% of hole's depth or do you mean increasing the initial drill size so that height of actual thread profile is 50% / 75%

Re: [Emc-users] Tapping G code

2013-08-13 Thread John Thornton
When tapping in steel it is only necessary to have %50 thread depth and %75 thread depth in soft materials. JT On 8/13/2013 10:09 AM, Viesturs Lācis wrote: > 2013/8/13 John Thornton > >> This is the metric dictionary if anyone wants to convert the pitch and >> drill sizes to mm >> >> # Metric Dr

Re: [Emc-users] Tapping G code

2013-08-13 Thread John Thornton
That would be complicated to sort out what common metric drill sizes are for each tap and much easier to just update the dictionary with a few entries. I'm just not motivated to do either as I don't use metric drills. JT On 8/13/2013 9:42 AM, Dave Caroline wrote: > erm...maths in the code :) >

Re: [Emc-users] Tapping G code

2013-08-13 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2013/8/13 John Thornton > This is the metric dictionary if anyone wants to convert the pitch and > drill sizes to mm > > # Metric Drills change inch drills to metric and your set ># tap size, pitch, 75% drill, 75% drill diameter, 50% drill for > steel, 50% dia > John, could you, please,

Re: [Emc-users] Tapping G code

2013-08-13 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 13 August 2013 10:15:50 John Thornton did opine: > I know most of you guys on the mailing list don't visit the forum so > here is a link to a G code generator for drilling and tapping holes on a > mill. I wrote this mainly because we don't have a tapping cycle and if I > forgot the pre-

Re: [Emc-users] Tapping G code

2013-08-13 Thread Dave Caroline
erm...maths in the code :) Dave Caroline -- Get 100% visibility into Java/.NET code with AppDynamics Lite! It's a free troubleshooting tool designed for production. Get down to code-level detail for bottlenecks, with <2%

Re: [Emc-users] Tapping G code

2013-08-13 Thread John Thornton
Thanks, just don't use the metric option as the data for metric is still in inch... I have no motivation to convert the few pitch entries in the metric dictionary so if anyone does let me know. JT On 8/13/2013 9:03 AM, Dave wrote: > Very nice John.. > > Dave Cole > > On 8/13/2013 9:32 AM, John

Re: [Emc-users] Tapping G code

2013-08-13 Thread John Thornton
Oh I forgot to mention I converted the first line of each type of tap as an example. JT On 8/13/2013 9:03 AM, Dave wrote: > Very nice John.. > > Dave Cole > > On 8/13/2013 9:32 AM, John Thornton wrote: >> I know most of you guys on the mailing list don't visit the forum so >> here is a link to a

Re: [Emc-users] Tapping G code

2013-08-13 Thread John Thornton
This is the metric dictionary if anyone wants to convert the pitch and drill sizes to mm # Metric Drills change inch drills to metric and your set # tap size, pitch, 75% drill, 75% drill diameter, 50% drill for steel, 50% dia self.NF_TapM = {1:'#6-40,0.6350,M2.9,2.9,M3,3.0',

Re: [Emc-users] Tapping G code

2013-08-13 Thread Dave
Very nice John.. Dave Cole On 8/13/2013 9:32 AM, John Thornton wrote: > I know most of you guys on the mailing list don't visit the forum so > here is a link to a G code generator for drilling and tapping holes on a > mill. I wrote this mainly because we don't have a tapping cycle and if I > forg

[Emc-users] Tapping G code

2013-08-13 Thread John Thornton
I know most of you guys on the mailing list don't visit the forum so here is a link to a G code generator for drilling and tapping holes on a mill. I wrote this mainly because we don't have a tapping cycle and if I forgot the pre-position move then you get a really neat show as your tap travers