Re: [Emc-users] tool offset compensation and gouging

2011-03-04 Thread Igor Chudov
By the way, I think that it is great that you let us use cutter compensation while doing inside corners. Every one knows that these corners will have a radius of the end mill, anyway, and this is usually acceptable when pocketing. For perfectly sharp inside corners, after all, we would need to

Re: [Emc-users] tool offset compensation and gouging

2011-03-04 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2011/3/4 Chris Radek ch...@timeguy.com: On Thu, Mar 03, 2011 at 08:34:35PM -0600, Jon Elson wrote: Specifically, when using cutter radius compensation and straight lines, you can only make convex shapes on the outside of a part. So, if you have G42 in force (tool on right), then you can only

Re: [Emc-users] tool offset compensation and gouging

2011-03-04 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Fri, 2011-03-04 at 06:58 -0600, Chris Radek wrote: ... snip No, it doesn't gouge the part outline. It moves along the path on the specified side. Every adjacent pair of moves (whether line or arc) cause a concave or convex corner. If the corner is concave, it calculates a new corner

Re: [Emc-users] tool offset compensation and gouging

2011-03-04 Thread Chris Radek
On Fri, Mar 04, 2011 at 09:14:41AM -0800, Kirk Wallace wrote: (Sorry for being blunt, but this best conveys how I feel) I prefer to code the part surface path, which ultimately, is the only thing that matters. If the surface can not be machined, the surface needs to be fixed or the process

Re: [Emc-users] tool offset compensation and gouging

2011-03-04 Thread Igor Chudov
On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Chris Radek ch...@timeguy.com wrote: On Fri, Mar 04, 2011 at 09:14:41AM -0800, Kirk Wallace wrote: (Sorry for being blunt, but this best conveys how I feel) I prefer to code the part surface path, which ultimately, is the only thing that matters. If the

Re: [Emc-users] tool offset compensation and gouging

2011-03-04 Thread andy pugh
On 4 March 2011 17:29, Igor Chudov ichu...@gmail.com wrote: Everyone knows that milling out concave corners with a round end mill leaves round corners, why warn about it? Devils Advocaat Because you are asking for a square corner, and not getting it. You should know that you are going to have

Re: [Emc-users] tool offset compensation and gouging

2011-03-04 Thread John Prentice
From: andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com On 4 March 2011 17:29, Igor Chudov ichu...@gmail.com wrote: Everyone knows that milling out concave corners with a round end mill leaves round corners, why warn about it? Devils Advocaat Because you are asking for a square corner, and not getting it.

Re: [Emc-users] tool offset compensation and gouging

2011-03-04 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Fri, 2011-03-04 at 11:20 -0600, Chris Radek wrote: ... snip Sorry to be blunt, but your final question makes me wonder whether you understand the issue. This is about using cutter comp with concave corners. When you do that, a fillet is left because the cutter is round. It does not

Re: [Emc-users] tool offset compensation and gouging

2011-03-04 Thread kqt4at5v
I apologize if this is off topic but it was pointed out that my original problem had nothing to do with gouging but rather using offset compensation and rotating the axis Is it possible this feature will be added in the future From what I have read it seems folks who use offset compensation are

Re: [Emc-users] tool offset compensation and gouging

2011-03-04 Thread Jon Elson
Chris Radek wrote: On Thu, Mar 03, 2011 at 11:25:19PM -0600, Jon Elson wrote: I rarely use the G41, G42 offsets, I have my little C programs that code the paths I need without using tool radius offsets, so I am rusty. You should try it again! Well, these little C routines have

Re: [Emc-users] tool offset compensation and gouging

2011-03-04 Thread Chris Radek
On Fri, Mar 04, 2011 at 12:22:19PM -0600, kqt4a...@comcast.net wrote: I apologize if this is off topic but it was pointed out that my original problem had nothing to do with gouging but rather using offset compensation and rotating the axis Is it possible this feature will be added in the

Re: [Emc-users] tool offset compensation and gouging

2011-03-04 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Fri, 2011-03-04 at 12:22 -0600, kqt4a...@comcast.net wrote: ... snip From what I have read it seems folks who use offset compensation are looked upon as lower class :) I would be interested seeing any links you might have. I will try and remember my place :) Richard I think your place

Re: [Emc-users] tool offset compensation and gouging

2011-03-04 Thread gene heskett
On Friday, March 04, 2011 10:57:48 pm andy pugh did opine: On 4 March 2011 17:29, Igor Chudov ichu...@gmail.com wrote: Everyone knows that milling out concave corners with a round end mill leaves round corners, why warn about it? Devils Advocaat Because you are asking for a square

[Emc-users] tool offset compensation and gouging

2011-03-03 Thread kqt4at5v
I am making small wooden toy parts and frequently I get the error Straight feed in concave corner cannot be reached by the tool without gouging For what I am doing slight imperfections are OK Can this feature be disabled Richard

Re: [Emc-users] tool offset compensation and gouging

2011-03-03 Thread Chris Radek
On Thu, Mar 03, 2011 at 11:10:33AM -0600, kqt4a...@comcast.net wrote: I am making small wooden toy parts and frequently I get the error Straight feed in concave corner cannot be reached by the tool without gouging For what I am doing slight imperfections are OK Can this feature be disabled

Re: [Emc-users] tool offset compensation and gouging

2011-03-03 Thread Igor Chudov
As far as I know, this error always, without exception, points to a bug in G code. Most likely you are trying to mill out some area with an end mill that is larger than the width of the area. You may need a smaller end mill. i On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 11:10 AM, kqt4a...@comcast.net wrote: I am

Re: [Emc-users] tool offset compensation and gouging

2011-03-03 Thread kqt4at5v
On Thu, 3 Mar 2011, Chris Radek wrote: On Thu, Mar 03, 2011 at 11:10:33AM -0600, kqt4a...@comcast.net wrote: I am making small wooden toy parts and frequently I get the error Straight feed in concave corner cannot be reached by the tool without gouging For what I am doing slight imperfections

Re: [Emc-users] tool offset compensation and gouging

2011-03-03 Thread dave
On Thu, 2011-03-03 at 14:00 -0600, kqt4a...@comcast.net wrote: On Thu, 3 Mar 2011, Chris Radek wrote: On Thu, Mar 03, 2011 at 11:10:33AM -0600, kqt4a...@comcast.net wrote: I am making small wooden toy parts and frequently I get the error Straight feed in concave corner cannot be reached

Re: [Emc-users] tool offset compensation and gouging

2011-03-03 Thread Chris Radek
On Thu, Mar 03, 2011 at 05:15:58PM -0600, Chris Radek wrote: I think this is a bug you have found by rotating the coordinate system while cutter compensation is turned on. I've fixed this by disallowing what your code does, and giving a proper error message if you try it. Thanks for bringing

Re: [Emc-users] tool offset compensation and gouging

2011-03-03 Thread kqt4at5v
On Thu, 3 Mar 2011, Chris Radek wrote: On Thu, Mar 03, 2011 at 05:15:58PM -0600, Chris Radek wrote: I think this is a bug you have found by rotating the coordinate system while cutter compensation is turned on. I've fixed this by disallowing what your code does, and giving a proper error

Re: [Emc-users] tool offset compensation and gouging

2011-03-03 Thread Jon Elson
Igor Chudov wrote: As far as I know, this error always, without exception, points to a bug in G code. Most likely you are trying to mill out some area with an end mill that is larger than the width of the area. You may need a smaller end mill. Specifically, when using cutter radius

Re: [Emc-users] tool offset compensation and gouging

2011-03-03 Thread Chris Radek
On Thu, Mar 03, 2011 at 08:34:35PM -0600, Jon Elson wrote: Specifically, when using cutter radius compensation and straight lines, you can only make convex shapes on the outside of a part. So, if you have G42 in force (tool on right), then you can only make left turns. This has not been

Re: [Emc-users] tool offset compensation and gouging

2011-03-03 Thread Jon Elson
Chris Radek wrote: On Thu, Mar 03, 2011 at 08:34:35PM -0600, Jon Elson wrote: Specifically, when using cutter radius compensation and straight lines, you can only make convex shapes on the outside of a part. So, if you have G42 in force (tool on right), then you can only make left