Re: [Emc-users] Final user of EMC2.

2012-08-16 Thread Dave Caroline
Question is will it ever happen? Instead of whining why not add the facilities you want, it is open source Dave Caroline -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security

Re: [Emc-users] Final user of EMC2.

2012-08-16 Thread andy pugh
On 16 August 2012 03:42, John Kasunich jmkasun...@fastmail.fm wrote: Do you delete word processor files from the file open menu of the word processor? Do you delete spreadsheets from the file open menu of the spreadsheet program? NO. Yes, actually. Windows allows this, and it is sometimes

Re: [Emc-users] Final user of EMC2.

2012-08-16 Thread Stuart Stevenson
On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 11:15 PM, Chris Morley chrisinnana...@hotmail.comwrote: In fact I could understand cases where I would not want the operator to use anything but the cnc screen. Chris M In my world there would almost never be a time when I would want an operator to access anything

Re: [Emc-users] Final user of EMC2.

2012-08-16 Thread Dave
On 8/15/2012 10:35 PM, Chris Radek wrote: On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 09:42:18PM -0400, John Kasunich wrote: Do you delete word processor files from the file open menu of the word processor? Do you delete spreadsheets from the file open menu of the spreadsheet program? NO. In ms

Re: [Emc-users] Final user of EMC2.

2012-08-16 Thread Eric Keller
On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 10:35 PM, Chris Radek ch...@timeguy.com wrote: In ms office in windows, you can in fact rename/move/delete files in the file OPEN dialog box. It is an abomination. In fact, this is the standard operating system behavior, not just ms office. I am not sure you can

Re: [Emc-users] Final user of EMC2.

2012-08-16 Thread cogoman
On 08/15/2012 09:26 PM, a...@conceptmachinery.com wrote: I think problem again here. I am not talking about UBUNTU. I am talking about EMC2 2.2.5 and problem in DELETE file -program name- from icon on EMC2 where one load new program. When load file/program into EMC2 --EMC2 2.2.5 in my

Re: [Emc-users] Final user of EMC2.

2012-08-15 Thread a
Hi Eventually with the help of other point made clear. Point that file, from icon where pick a program, process of DELETE /remove of it need to be simple. Like –click on file—DELETE ---result file not there any more. That will be significant help to –“diligent in policing their files”. EMC2

Re: [Emc-users] Final user of EMC2.

2012-08-15 Thread a
I think problem again here. I am not talking about UBUNTU. I am talking about EMC2 2.2.5 and problem in DELETE file -program name- from icon on EMC2 where one load new program. When load file/program into EMC2 --EMC2 2.2.5 in my particular case---DELETE those file name. Is is clear now what i am

Re: [Emc-users] Final user of EMC2.

2012-08-15 Thread John Kasunich
Why do you expect EMC to be different than any other program? Do you delete word processor files from the file open menu of the word processor? Do you delete spreadsheets from the file open menu of the spreadsheet program? NO. You delete files using your computer's file manager application (or

Re: [Emc-users] Final user of EMC2.

2012-08-15 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 15 August 2012 22:26:54 John Kasunich did opine: Why do you expect EMC to be different than any other program? Do you delete word processor files from the file open menu of the word processor? Do you delete spreadsheets from the file open menu of the spreadsheet program? NO.

Re: [Emc-users] Final user of EMC2.

2012-08-15 Thread Chris Radek
On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 09:42:18PM -0400, John Kasunich wrote: Do you delete word processor files from the file open menu of the word processor? Do you delete spreadsheets from the file open menu of the spreadsheet program? NO. In ms office in windows, you can in fact rename/move/delete

Re: [Emc-users] Final user of EMC2.

2012-08-15 Thread N. Christopher Perry
On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 09:42:18PM -0400, John Kasunich wrote: Do you delete word processor files from the file open menu of the word processor? Do you delete spreadsheets from the file open menu of the spreadsheet program? NO. In ms office in windows, you can in fact

Re: [Emc-users] Final user of EMC2.

2012-08-15 Thread Chris Morley
I think problem again here. I am not talking about UBUNTU. I am talking about EMC2 2.2.5 and problem in DELETE file -program name- from icon on EMC2 where one load new program. When load file/program into EMC2 --EMC2 2.2.5 in my particular case---DELETE those file name. Is is clear

Re: [Emc-users] Final user of EMC2.

2012-08-12 Thread Dave Caroline
Just read documentation and problem solved. ? For the “Final User”? Not the final user you the integrator. You should create whatever you think you need for your interface it is open source so that you can Dave Caroline

Re: [Emc-users] Final user of EMC2.

2012-08-12 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/8/11 a...@conceptmachinery.com: Hi In emc2 when loading program, it is hard to delete program out. number of program will increase and clog those small place icon that shows available programs. to delete need --type - in exact -- name of file etc Why not to make delete of file --simple

Re: [Emc-users] Final user of EMC2.

2012-08-12 Thread Dave
2. sell hardware -- How come? Point of EMC2 is that one can buy hardware by them self generic parts and components. The customers I deal with are typically not looking for parts and pieces. They are busy making things and are looking for a solution. They want a machine updated via a

Re: [Emc-users] Final user of EMC2.

2012-08-12 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 12 August 2012 05:51:59 a...@conceptmachinery.com did opine: About (4) to how make money. 1. sell support ---is OK 2. sell hardware -- How come? Point of EMC2 is that one can buy hardware by them self generic parts and components. I did that -- all AC Servomotors, Amplifiers for AC

Re: [Emc-users] Final user of EMC2.

2012-08-12 Thread andy pugh
On 11 August 2012 21:28, a...@conceptmachinery.com wrote: In emc2 when loading program, it is hard to delete program out. number of program will increase and clog those small place icon that shows available programs. I have almost no idea what you are meaning here. But are you saying that

Re: [Emc-users] Final user of EMC2.

2012-08-12 Thread jeremy youngs
I have almost no idea what you are meaning here. But are you saying that there are too many files in the file-selection dialog in LinuxCNC/Axis? andy if you will tell us I think we will all know :) I think he was saying its difficult to remove a file but with a large hard drive why would you want

Re: [Emc-users] Final user of EMC2.

2012-08-12 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/8/12 jeremy youngs jcyoung...@gmail.com: I have almost no idea what you are meaning here. But are you saying that there are too many files in the file-selection dialog in LinuxCNC/Axis? andy if you will tell us I think we will all know :) I think he was saying its difficult to remove a

Re: [Emc-users] Final user of EMC2.

2012-08-12 Thread jeremy youngs
right i think its more of a user and tidieness issue than one of the software, If one is not diligent in policing their files pretty soon chaos erupts, Ive seen this many times on the shop floor. It amounts to form a system never deviate -- jeremy youngs

Re: [Emc-users] Final user of EMC2.

2012-08-11 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 11 August 2012 20:47:27 a...@conceptmachinery.com did opine: Hi In emc2 when loading program, it is hard to delete program out. number of program will increase and clog those small place icon that shows available programs. to delete need --type - in exact -- name of file etc Why

Re: [Emc-users] Final user of EMC2.

2012-08-11 Thread a
Hi Gene i did not talk about grandpa level of machinist that do manual machining. I am talking about 99% of machinist in CNC machine shop, with 5 to 35 years of experience. Most of them went through many types of CNC machines and many types of CAD CAM. They are a Final User of EMC2. They are

Re: [Emc-users] Final user of EMC2.

2012-08-11 Thread jeremy youngs
I am the final user of emc The cnc machinist you speak of. While I can give some validity to the thought of making *LINUXCNC2* (this is what it is called now we called it Emc2 in the last ice age) a little closer to a commercial machine. One can do this with several available guis. User

Re: [Emc-users] Final user of EMC2.

2012-08-11 Thread John Murphy
Most of us who make money with EMC2 do it integrating it into machines. None of my machines require anyone know a command line, EMC starts automatically. See the documentation if you want to do this too... It's not that hard. On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 8:59 PM, a...@conceptmachinery.com wrote:

Re: [Emc-users] Final user of EMC2.

2012-08-11 Thread jeremy youngs
I presume for non hobby applications at that? :) On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 12:04 AM, John Murphy j...@wyosip.com wrote: Most of us who make money with EMC2 do it integrating it into machines. None of my machines require anyone know a command line, EMC starts automatically. See the

Re: [Emc-users] Final user of EMC2.

2012-08-11 Thread Jack Coats
In a similar situation, a friend had a company for several years that 'sold' Asterisk (a Linux based PBX phone system). The users understood how to use and do some user configuration of the software, but my friends company made money by selling consulting services and the hardware (phones and

Re: [Emc-users] Final user of EMC2.

2012-08-11 Thread a
About (4) to how make money. 1. sell support ---is OK 2. sell hardware -- How come? Point of EMC2 is that one can buy hardware by them self generic parts and components. I did that -- all AC Servomotors, Amplifiers for AC servomotors, boards Only 2 companies for that - Servodynamics and Mesa