Re: [-empyre-] body chair language

2014-07-27 Thread sally jane norman
--empyre- soft-skinned space--Dear Sue, all Many thanks, yes, definitely grappling (though, this time, I didn't put "slippery" in the title!) - caught up in extremis (imminent paper) working on Kantor's "found" gestures (in "found spaces" executed by "found" or "hired"

Re: [-empyre-] body chair language

2014-07-27 Thread Daniel Tércio
--empyre- soft-skinned space-- Dear all The reference to ghosts and haunting -- which certainly are, quoting Sue, tricky words because they could seem to imply mystification of something that should be anchored in the bodily experience -- pushed my thoughts to another p

Re: [-empyre-] body chair language

2014-07-27 Thread Sue Hawksley
--empyre- soft-skinned space-- Dear Sally Jane On 23 Jul 2014, at 18:35, sally jane norman wrote: > I'd love to hear more on your take on ghosts and haunting and resonance, > Sue, as I'm also grappling with this stuff - something I've previously tried > to articul

Re: [-empyre-] body chair language

2014-07-23 Thread John Hopkins
--empyre- soft-skinned space-- Thanks, this is - for me! - useful and welcome; the language questions you outline obviously espouse those I deal with in French, though I'm not aware of "embodiment" being integrated as a solution - l'incorporation and l'incarnation hav

Re: [-empyre-] body chair language

2014-07-23 Thread John Hopkins
--empyre- soft-skinned space-- Let me quote one of the Oswald d’Andrade aphorisms: The mind refuses to conceive the mind without the body. This seems to have no meaning unless one treats the mind & body as two separable 'things' -- many systems do not do this at a

Re: [-empyre-] body 'chair' language / El Colgado

2014-07-23 Thread Johannes Birringer
--empyre- soft-skinned space-- dear all Daniel, I am finding your response on colonial history not at all distracting from the discussion... (and thanks to Sue's earlier posting in which she is, perhaps understandably, critical of my scepticism and my proposing the t

Re: [-empyre-] body chair language

2014-07-23 Thread sally jane norman
--empyre- soft-skinned space--Dear all, Daniel Thanks, this is - for me! - useful and welcome; the language questions you outline obviously espouse those I deal with in French, though I'm not aware of "embodiment" being integrated as a solution - l'incorporation and l'i

Re: [-empyre-] body chair language

2014-07-23 Thread Daniel Tércio
--empyre- soft-skinned space-- Hi Sue, thanks for the correction of “carne” to flesh (not chair). That’s right. Thanks also to Johannes for his remarks and contributions. I hope that my mistake could also contribute to rethink the internal gaps and holes on the webabel.

Re: [-empyre-] body chair language

2014-07-23 Thread Sue Hawksley
--empyre- soft-skinned space-- Dear Daniel et al. On 23 Jul 2014, at 07:00, Daniel Tércio wrote: > However, even before (re)visiting the triad of porosity-perception-presence, > let me return naively to the use of the > term embodiment in different languages. And let

Re: [-empyre-] body chair language

2014-07-22 Thread Johannes Birringer
--empyre- soft-skinned space-- dear all, dear Daniel "body chair language"? well your introduction of the language problem (for the Portuguese) is of course fascinating and perhaps links to my final post and the question about decolonizaton I raised (the notion of an