Re: [E-devel] Website statistics

2017-12-07 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
I will host at no charge for the project and take care of the server myself if you want andrew I’ll setup a subdomain if my domain eanalytics.eagleeyet.net for example and then give you access to the back end for it Sent from my iPhone > On 07 Dec 2017, at 15:59, Andrew Williams wrote: > > Hi

Re: [E-devel] Website statistics

2017-12-07 Thread Andrew Williams
Hi, Thanks for the tip on Piwik, looks decent. To use it for free we would have to self host and I don't think we have time to manage another service unfortunately. As there were no objections I went with GA for now. If anyone thinks they should be or would like to have access to the data it's co

Re: [E-devel] Website statistics

2017-12-05 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
On Tue, 05 Dec 2017 19:19:02 + Andrew Williams wrote: > Hi, > > As part of the effort to rejuvenate and reshape our documentation and > related pages on the website it would be really helpful to get > information about where people are spending time and so forth. > > The standard way to do

Re: [E-devel] Website statistics

2017-12-05 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
Hi Andrew, There is also an open source alternative called piwik which does the same. https://piwik.org/ :D On 05/12/2017 20:19, Andrew Williams wrote: > Hi, > > As part of the effort to rejuvenate and reshape our documentation and > related pages on the website it would be really helpful to g

[E-devel] Website statistics

2017-12-05 Thread Andrew Williams
Hi, As part of the effort to rejuvenate and reshape our documentation and related pages on the website it would be really helpful to get information about where people are spending time and so forth. The standard way to do this these days appears to be with Google Analytics - it is simple to set

Re: [E-devel] Website Table of Contents

2017-11-22 Thread Andrew Williams
Hi, Unfortunately I am not following what you mean by these artefacts, can you please provide screenshots? With regards to the transparent overlay I did see that in a browser, I reset the cache and it went away. There is a graphical glitch whereby it /looks/ like the code div goes under the ToC b

Re: [E-devel] Website Table of Contents

2017-11-22 Thread Carsten Haitzler
On Wed, 22 Nov 2017 10:29:29 + Andrew Williams said: > Hi, > > If you are seeing broken rendering please refresh the cache - there are CSS > changes in there that will need to be grabbed as well as the content. shift-reloaded. same story. overlaps. :) > In your screenshot I don't know what

Re: [E-devel] Website Table of Contents

2017-11-22 Thread Andrew Williams
Hi, If you are seeing broken rendering please refresh the cache - there are CSS changes in there that will need to be grabbed as well as the content. In your screenshot I don't know what you mean by "gutter" - the screen is not wide enough for it to have moved into the gutter, which it will do wh

Re: [E-devel] Website Table of Contents

2017-11-21 Thread Carsten Haitzler
On Mon, 20 Nov 2017 12:18:09 + Andrew Williams said: > Hi, > > So I've tried to get a ToC appended to the nav sidebar and I'm not > disappointed with the result. > https://www.enlightenment.org/ss/display.php?image=e-5a12a60dc3d772.36151853.jpg > > If there is space the bar is static on the

Re: [E-devel] Website Table of Contents

2017-11-20 Thread Andrew Williams
Hi, So I've tried to get a ToC appended to the nav sidebar and I'm not disappointed with the result. https://www.enlightenment.org/ss/display.php?image=e-5a12a60dc3d772.36151853.jpg If there is space the bar is static on the top right of the screen, if there is not a wide enough gutter then it in

Re: [E-devel] Website Table of Contents

2017-11-07 Thread Carsten Haitzler
On Tue, 07 Nov 2017 15:59:24 + Andrew Williams said: > Hi, > > The amount of space it takes up is a stylistic issue - our template > explicitly reserves 1/4 of the screen for a ToC which is clearly not a > requirement. that was my major thing about it. stylistic. :) also the original css fo

Re: [E-devel] Website Table of Contents

2017-11-07 Thread Andrew Williams
Hi, The amount of space it takes up is a stylistic issue - our template explicitly reserves 1/4 of the screen for a ToC which is clearly not a requirement. Additionally of concern is that many of our pages (specifically the program guide) have (manually entered) contents areas that are within the

Re: [E-devel] Website Table of Contents

2017-11-07 Thread Carsten Haitzler
On Mon, 06 Nov 2017 18:47:45 + Andrew Williams said: > Hi, > > With some of the examples in our new documentation there is a lot of > content and there was a request to generate a table of contents. > This feature has been turned off on our wiki and I wondered how people > would feel about u

[E-devel] Website Table of Contents

2017-11-06 Thread Andrew Williams
Hi, With some of the examples in our new documentation there is a lot of content and there was a request to generate a table of contents. This feature has been turned off on our wiki and I wondered how people would feel about us turning this back on. With the current styling it looks like this scr

Re: [E-devel] Website news

2014-01-26 Thread The Rasterman
On Sun, 12 Jan 2014 00:04:36 + Andrew Williams said: this is a good idea. i moved the new link on .eorg to point to phab's blog (phame) stream ages ago > Hi guys, > > As I was investigating the status and docs available on our website I found, > too easily, this old news page. http://enligh

[E-devel] Website news

2014-01-11 Thread Andrew Williams
Hi guys, As I was investigating the status and docs available on our website I found, too easily, this old news page. http://enlightenment.org/p.php?p=news&l=en It is the top link of you google "enlightenment news" and it is rather misleadingly out of date. Would people be OK if the link to thi

Re: [E-devel] website/www push permission

2013-10-28 Thread Daniel Juyung Seo
On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 7:09 PM, Bertrand Jacquin wrote: > D'ar gwener 25 a viz Here 2013 e 12 eur 05, « Daniel Juyung Seo » he deus > skrivet : > > On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 6:05 PM, Bertrand Jacquin >wrote: > > > > > Hi Daniel, > > > > > > D'ar gwener 25 a viz Here 2013 e 02 eur 08, « Daniel Juyu

Re: [E-devel] website/www push permission

2013-10-25 Thread Bertrand Jacquin
D'ar gwener 25 a viz Here 2013 e 12 eur 05, « Daniel Juyung Seo » he deus skrivet : > On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 6:05 PM, Bertrand Jacquin wrote: > > > Hi Daniel, > > > > D'ar gwener 25 a viz Here 2013 e 02 eur 08, « Daniel Juyung Seo » he deus > > skrivet : > > > Dear all, (especially beber and tas

Re: [E-devel] website/www push permission

2013-10-25 Thread Daniel Juyung Seo
On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 6:05 PM, Bertrand Jacquin wrote: > Hi Daniel, > > D'ar gwener 25 a viz Here 2013 e 02 eur 08, « Daniel Juyung Seo » he deus > skrivet : > > Dear all, (especially beber and tasn) > > I tried to push to website/www repo but got an error like this. > > > > seoz@daniel-linux:~/

Re: [E-devel] website/www push permission

2013-10-25 Thread Bertrand Jacquin
Hi Daniel, D'ar gwener 25 a viz Here 2013 e 02 eur 08, « Daniel Juyung Seo » he deus skrivet : > Dear all, (especially beber and tasn) > I tried to push to website/www repo but got an error like this. > > seoz@daniel-linux:~/efl/git/website/www/public_html/p/contact$ git pull > --rebase > Curren

[E-devel] website/www push permission

2013-10-24 Thread Daniel Juyung Seo
Dear all, (especially beber and tasn) I tried to push to website/www repo but got an error like this. seoz@daniel-linux:~/efl/git/website/www/public_html/p/contact$ git pull --rebase Current branch master is up to date. seoz@daniel-linux:~/efl/git/website/www/public_html/p/contact$ git push fatal:

Re: [E-devel] [e-devel] website download links are broken

2010-12-07 Thread The Rasterman
On Wed, 8 Dec 2010 13:22:17 +0900 Daniel Juyung Seo said: tnx! bad beta2 releaser didnt set the links right! spank! fixed. > Dear all, > I just found that some download links were broken. > http://www.enlightenment.org/p.php?p=download&l=en > "Dowonload ENLIGHTENMENT" and "Download ELEMENTARY" a

[E-devel] [e-devel] website download links are broken

2010-12-07 Thread Daniel Juyung Seo
Dear all, I just found that some download links were broken. http://www.enlightenment.org/p.php?p=download&l=en "Dowonload ENLIGHTENMENT" and "Download ELEMENTARY" are broken. Anybody can check for this? Thanks. Daniel Juyung Seo. --

Re: [E-devel] Website Organization

2010-01-03 Thread Ian Caldwell
don't forget to work work the donation page factor into it... enlightenment.org/donate just isn't working ;) On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 12:28 PM, Andres Blanc wrote: > Before anyone else spends a second creating or editing existing website or > wiki content we need to sort this project's face out. T

[E-devel] Website Organization

2010-01-02 Thread Andres Blanc
Before anyone else spends a second creating or editing existing website or wiki content we need to sort this project's face out. The current website(s) and wiki(s) are a mess, to continue to add content without sorting this out is simply a waste of time. As I see it we have three veins: 1. Project

Re: [E-devel] [website] What would you like to see on the new site?

2008-08-01 Thread Nick Hughart
dan sinclair wrote: > On 1-Aug-08, at 4:47 PM, dan sinclair wrote: > >>> *5. weekly or biweekly articles* >>> >>> >> Ditto to 1. They can also write the articles on the Wiki which is >> probably a better choice. Makes them easier to maintain in the long >> run. They can then be link

Re: [E-devel] [website] What would you like to see on the new site?

2008-08-01 Thread dan sinclair
On 1-Aug-08, at 4:47 PM, dan sinclair wrote: >> *5. weekly or biweekly articles* >> > > Ditto to 1. They can also write the articles on the Wiki which is > probably a better choice. Makes them easier to maintain in the long > run. They can then be linked from the main site. This is what we

Re: [E-devel] [website] What would you like to see on the new site?

2008-08-01 Thread dan sinclair
On 1-Aug-08, at 2:04 PM, Ian Caldwell wrote: > What would you like to see on the new website? What goals do you > think it > should have. > My personal views are this is what we need to see differently. Feel > free to > chime in and add to what you'd like to see on the new site > > *1.

Re: [E-devel] [website] What would you like to see on the new site?

2008-08-01 Thread Viktor Kojouharov
Err, not to burst your bubble or anything, but there wasn't a lot of 'writing' going on at get-e. On Fri, 2008-08-01 at 13:28 -0700, Ian Caldwell wrote: > well, now that get-e is basically shut down. that opens up some more writers > right there. > > On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 1:26 PM, dn sinclair <[

Re: [E-devel] [website] cms?

2008-08-01 Thread Viktor Kojouharov
I can suggest http://bricolage.cc/ . I've heard good things about it, and I'm a perl guy myself. Though according to wikipedia, a recent version embeds the php5 interpreter, so the php guys can feel at home too. On Fri, 2008-08-01 at 16:23 -0400, Sthithaprajna Garapaty wrote: > The only reason for

Re: [E-devel] [website] What would you like to see on the new site?

2008-08-01 Thread Ian Caldwell
well, now that get-e is basically shut down. that opens up some more writers right there. On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 1:26 PM, dn sinclair <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 1-Aug-08, at 3:41 PM, Veli Ogla Sungutay wrote: > > > Articles friends. We need lots of them. Even a small tutorial, small > > us

Re: [E-devel] [website] What would you like to see on the new site?

2008-08-01 Thread dan sinclair
On 1-Aug-08, at 3:41 PM, Veli Ogla Sungutay wrote: > Articles friends. We need lots of them. Even a small tutorial, small > usage > examples would do. Saying we need articles is fine. Finding people to write good articles is hard. dan --

Re: [E-devel] [website] cms?

2008-08-01 Thread Sthithaprajna Garapaty
The only reason for php would be that a number of the devs are familiar with it, so if we need to write our own integration pieces, it might be easier. But the server is ours and we can install anything on it.. so PHP is not a hard restriction. On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 4:07 PM, Viktor Kojouharov <[E

Re: [E-devel] [website] What would you like to see on the new site?

2008-08-01 Thread Viktor Kojouharov
The major part. If it is not done already, separate the presentation from the logic code. Make sure a designer can do the job of styling the site without touching any underlying code. On Fri, 2008-08-01 at 11:04 -0700, Ian Caldwell wrote: > What would you like to see on the new website? What goals

Re: [E-devel] [website] cms?

2008-08-01 Thread Viktor Kojouharov
Should it be strictly written in php? The current website uses php, but perhaps the doors are open for other languages, and the cmses written in them. On Fri, 2008-08-01 at 10:46 -0700, Ian Caldwell wrote: > So now it is your chance to tell us why we should be using a specific cms > verses the alt

Re: [E-devel] [website] What would you like to see on the new site?

2008-08-01 Thread Andre Dieb
There are a bunch of articles, but you won't reach them easily (like in a list). (I always need to consult something on the wiki or docs and it's always a pain to find related links). I think a list of related links (such as wikipedia.org ones) at the bottom would be really useful. Cheersm 2008/

Re: [E-devel] [website] What would you like to see on the new site?

2008-08-01 Thread Veli Ogla Sungutay
Articles friends. We need lots of them. Even a small tutorial, small usage examples would do. On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 9:04 PM, Ian Caldwell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What would you like to see on the new website? What goals do you think it > should have. > My personal views are this is what we

Re: [E-devel] [website] What would you like to see on the new site?

2008-08-01 Thread Vincent Torri
On Fri, 1 Aug 2008, Ian Caldwell wrote: What would you like to see on the new website? What goals do you think it should have. one remark and one question: My personal views are this is what we need to see differently. Feel free to chime in and add to what you'd like to see on the new site

Re: [E-devel] [website] What would you like to see on the new site?

2008-08-01 Thread Nick Hughart
Ian Caldwell wrote: > Yup, I'd like to eliminate submenus completely One navigation on all pages > that has links to pretty much everything. The goal of the new site is make > it a lot more usable. With regularly updated news, and a lot of static > content around it. > This is bad design imo, i

Re: [E-devel] [website] What would you like to see on the new site?

2008-08-01 Thread Ian Caldwell
Yup, I'd like to eliminate submenus completely One navigation on all pages that has links to pretty much everything. The goal of the new site is make it a lot more usable. With regularly updated news, and a lot of static content around it. On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 11:07 AM, Zachary Goldberg <[EMAI

Re: [E-devel] [website] What would you like to see on the new site?

2008-08-01 Thread Zachary Goldberg
On 8/1/08, Ian Caldwell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What would you like to see on the new website? What goals do you think it > should have. > My personal views are this is what we need to see differently. Feel free to > chime in and add to what you'd like to see on the new site > > *1. Crea

[E-devel] [website] What would you like to see on the new site?

2008-08-01 Thread Ian Caldwell
What would you like to see on the new website? What goals do you think it should have. My personal views are this is what we need to see differently. Feel free to chime in and add to what you'd like to see on the new site *1. Create links to all the software ( wiki, bug tracker, forums, sour

[E-devel] [website] cms?

2008-08-01 Thread Ian Caldwell
So now it is your chance to tell us why we should be using a specific cms verses the alternative of just making our own specific to our needs and keeping it minimalistic. Please give the pros and the cons and explorer the issues that would involve e directly (e.g. themeing, translations etc etc) --

Re: [E-devel] [website]

2008-07-16 Thread Massimo Maiurana
Massimiliano Calamelli, il 16/07/2008 17:50, scrisse: > I used improperly "actually" instead of "at this moment" a very common error for italian people, sometimes it happens to me too ;) -- Massimo Maiurana massimoragusa.linux.it http://massimo.solira.org GPG keyID

Re: [E-devel] [website] (was: SoC Midterm reviews)

2008-07-16 Thread Massimiliano Calamelli
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 10:05:07 -0500 "Nathan Ingersoll" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well, these two reasons aren't exactly good. Your point #0 is easily > solved by publicizing it on the main page or menu, and #1 is solved by > getting more people adde

Re: [E-devel] [website] (was: SoC Midterm reviews)

2008-07-16 Thread Nathan Ingersoll
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 4:21 AM, Massimiliano Calamelli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 10:38:46 +0200 (CEST) > Vincent Torri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> That question raises another point: the e website can certainly be >> im

Re: [E-devel] [website] (was: SoC Midterm reviews)

2008-07-16 Thread Sevcsik András
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 10:38 AM, Vincent Torri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Wed, 16 Jul 2008, Jose Gonzalez wrote: > > > Nathan wrote: > > > >> I also think it would be a good idea to add student blogs to Planet E > >> to give their work more exposure. > > > > What's "Planet E" ? >

Re: [E-devel] [website]

2008-07-16 Thread Jose Gonzalez
Vincent wrote: > > On Wed, 16 Jul 2008, Jose Gonzalez wrote: > >> Nathan wrote: >> >>> I also think it would be a good idea to add student blogs to Planet E >>> to give their work more exposure. >> >> What's "Planet E" ? > > That question raises another point: the e website can certainly

Re: [E-devel] [website] (was: SoC Midterm reviews)

2008-07-16 Thread Massimiliano Calamelli
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 10:38:46 +0200 (CEST) Vincent Torri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That question raises another point: the e website can certainly be > improved. > > * Afaics, that planet E does not appear in the web site (i didn't know > it).

[E-devel] [website] (was: SoC Midterm reviews)

2008-07-16 Thread Vincent Torri
On Wed, 16 Jul 2008, Jose Gonzalez wrote: > Nathan wrote: > >> I also think it would be a good idea to add student blogs to Planet E >> to give their work more exposure. > > What's "Planet E" ? That question raises another point: the e website can certainly be improved. * Afaics, tha

[E-devel] Website contact information

2008-01-09 Thread joligardon
Hi folks. I was looking at the website's improvement, and in contact you added some irc channels for communautaries. Maybe adding the #e.fr channel for french peoples could be great. See you. -- Bauland 'rookmoot' Stephane - Epitech lille - [EMAIL PROTECTED] --

Re: [E-devel] website url rewrite

2007-07-23 Thread The Rasterman
On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 13:12:16 +0300 "Chady Kassouf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > On 7/23/07, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 12:42:09 +0300 "Chady Kassouf" < > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > babbled: > > > > > On 7/23/07, The Rasterman Carsten Haitz

Re: [E-devel] website url rewrite

2007-07-23 Thread Chady Kassouf
On 7/23/07, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 12:42:09 +0300 "Chady Kassouf" < > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > babbled: > > > On 7/23/07, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 08:49:03 +0300 "Chady Kassouf" <

Re: [E-devel] website url rewrite

2007-07-23 Thread The Rasterman
On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 12:42:09 +0300 "Chady Kassouf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > On 7/23/07, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 08:49:03 +0300 "Chady Kassouf" < > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > babbled: > > > > > On 7/21/07, The Rasterman Carsten Haitz

Re: [E-devel] website url rewrite

2007-07-23 Thread The Rasterman
On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 08:49:03 +0300 "Chady Kassouf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > On 7/21/07, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 11:16:05 +0300 "Chady Kassouf" < > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > babbled: > > > > you READ the urls? and even type them in?

Re: [E-devel] website url rewrite

2007-07-23 Thread Chady Kassouf
On 7/23/07, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 08:49:03 +0300 "Chady Kassouf" < > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > babbled: > > > On 7/21/07, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 11:16:05 +0300 "Chady Kassouf" <

Re: [E-devel] website url rewrite

2007-07-22 Thread Morten Nilsen
Chady Kassouf wrote: > On 7/21/07, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> you READ the urls? and even type them in? i'm not sure it really matters > > Yes it does matter. And yes I think most people READ the urls to try and > guess the contents before going Most regular user

Re: [E-devel] website url rewrite

2007-07-22 Thread Chady Kassouf
On 7/21/07, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 11:16:05 +0300 "Chady Kassouf" < > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > babbled: > > you READ the urls? and even type them in? i'm not sure it really matters > unless > you want to hide the fact that its php with paramete

Re: [E-devel] website url rewrite

2007-07-20 Thread The Rasterman
On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 11:16:05 +0300 "Chady Kassouf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: you READ the urls? and even type them in? i'm not sure it really matters unless you want to hide the fact that its php with parameters? > On 7/12/07, Stéphane Bauland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Chady Kassouf w

Re: [E-devel] website url rewrite

2007-07-12 Thread Chady Kassouf
On 7/12/07, Stéphane Bauland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Chady Kassouf wrote: > > Hi, > > > > In order to make the new website's URLs easier to use, I'd like to > propose > > using mod_rewrite and having some rewrite rules to make the URIs more > > readable. > > > > Something along the lines of:

Re: [E-devel] website url rewrite

2007-07-12 Thread Stéphane Bauland
Chady Kassouf wrote: > Hi, > > In order to make the new website's URLs easier to use, I'd like to propose > using mod_rewrite and having some rewrite rules to make the URIs more > readable. > > Something along the lines of: > > > #RewriteEngine On > #RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-f > #RewriteC

[E-devel] website url rewrite

2007-07-11 Thread Chady Kassouf
Hi, In order to make the new website's URLs easier to use, I'd like to propose using mod_rewrite and having some rewrite rules to make the URIs more readable. Something along the lines of: #RewriteEngine On #RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-f #RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-d #RewriteRule ^

Re: [E-devel] website maintainers needed

2006-09-13 Thread Michael Jennings
On Tuesday, 12 September 2006, at 14:56:52 (+0300), Eugen Minciu wrote: > Maybe I should be comparing PHP & Zend with RoR, you're right. Sorry > for that. I'm just saying developing in RoR is saner and faster and > cleaner then writing your applications in pure PHP or Perl code. Or "pure" Ruby co

Re: [E-devel] website maintainers needed

2006-09-13 Thread CGA
On 12/09/06, David Seikel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: One thing that has always kept me away from online forums is thegeneral lack of any email interface.  If I can treat the forums justlike a mailing list, then I will contribute to them just like Icontribute to the mailing lists.  This is an area I

Re: [E-devel] website maintainers needed

2006-09-12 Thread Andrew Williams
Ah - the text should be there. It was removed a while ago and then reverted - I guess that rectang.com (XSM stable) is not running the latest dev version (not surprisingly) The thing about all those clicks is that when you want to edit a document you go to the edit tab to get a lock on the file

Re: [E-devel] website maintainers needed

2006-09-12 Thread dan sinclair
Andrew Williams wrote: > The "New" tab is for making new pages. > > To add a new post use the "New article" icon instead, which is at the > top of the edit screen. (just above the articles that already exist). > > The idea is that the "new xxx" icon will insert content in the location > that it i

Re: [E-devel] website maintainers needed

2006-09-12 Thread Andrew Williams
The "New" tab is for making new pages. To add a new post use the "New article" icon instead, which is at the top of the edit screen. (just above the articles that already exist). The idea is that the "new xxx" icon will insert content in the location that it is situated. Andy dan sinclair wrote

Re: [E-devel] website maintainers needed

2006-09-12 Thread dan sinclair
Andrew Williams wrote: > dan sinclair wrote: >> >> Can XSM integrate with things like LDAP or other authentication >> schemes? Or, would it be hard to add? Or, another way, what are the >> available authentication mechanisms available in XSM as that would >> need to be considered when looking fo

Re: [E-devel] website maintainers needed

2006-09-12 Thread dan sinclair
Michael Jennings wrote: > 2. Unintuitive? > > Blake says XSM's editing interface is unintuitive. I can see some > room for improvement, but straight HTML in a textarea seems pretty > intuitive to me, albeit not as user-friendly as it could be. > Just to add to this. I do have access to update

Re: [E-devel] website maintainers needed

2006-09-12 Thread Andrew Williams
dan sinclair wrote: > Andrew Williams wrote: >> dan sinclair wrote: >>> Andrew Williams wrote: Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > This would be a feature I would like to add (as an option ;) ) > 5. forums of edevelop - how would we get xsm to handle that with > mini

Re: [E-devel] website maintainers needed

2006-09-12 Thread dan sinclair
Andrew Williams wrote: > dan sinclair wrote: >> Andrew Williams wrote: >>> Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: >>> This would be a feature I would like to add (as an option ;) ) 5. forums of edevelop - how would we get xsm to handle that with minimum pain (don't say we n

Re: [E-devel] website maintainers needed

2006-09-12 Thread Andrew Williams
dan sinclair wrote: > Andrew Williams wrote: >> Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: >>> >> This would be a feature I would like to add (as an option ;) ) >>> 5. forums of edevelop - how would we get xsm to handle that with >>> minimum pain >>> (don't say we need to write our own forum engin

Re: [E-devel] website maintainers needed

2006-09-12 Thread dan sinclair
Andrew Williams wrote: > Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: >> > This would be a feature I would like to add (as an option ;) ) >> 5. forums of edevelop - how would we get xsm to handle that with minimum pain >> (don't say we need to write our own forum engine!) >> >> > The easiest is to

Re: [E-devel] website maintainers needed

2006-09-12 Thread Eugen Minciu
On Tue, 12 Sep 2006 00:41:42 -0400 Michael Jennings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tuesday, 12 September 2006, at 01:08:22 (+0300), > Eugen Minciu wrote: > > > Ruby on Rails is a web application development framework. For more > > info see http://www.rubyonrails.com. It's like the advanced broth

Re: [E-devel] website maintainers needed

2006-09-12 Thread Andrew Williams
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > exactly. this is what i have been trying to get people to focus on - what > about > xsm could/should be fixed/improved. what about xsm really (within practical > limits) is not fixable? > > 3. permissions model - too explicit. hard to grant global acess to

Re: [E-devel] Website Heated Discussions

2006-09-12 Thread Andrew Williams
This is indeed a possibility, but there are 2 considerations. 1) This breaks concurrency and could lead to lost changes 2) If someone makes some bad mistakes the XML could be corrupted and then feasibly the CMS could read it in, fail, and write back an empty page (if someone tries to edit it) (du

Re: [E-devel] website maintainers needed

2006-09-12 Thread Brian Miculcy
Oh ok, didn't know that. So no need for mirrors - makes life much easier. Brian On Tue, Sep 12, 2006 at 02:45:29PM +0900, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > On Tue, 12 Sep 2006 07:00:33 +0200 Brian Miculcy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > > > I just wanted to keep another problem in mind: > > 100mbit is e

Re: [E-devel] website maintainers needed

2006-09-12 Thread Brian Miculcy
So we have two devs for xsm. Sounds good. I vote for it. :) Brian On Tue, Sep 12, 2006 at 04:24:01PM +1000, David Seikel wrote: > I have some Drupal experience now (been building a coporate backed > community site recently). I have lots of Java experience (the language > XSM is written in). I h

Re: [E-devel] Website Heated Discussions

2006-09-12 Thread Chady Kassouf
On 9/12/06, Andrew Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Mon, 2006-09-11 at 16:45 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:[snip]>> How does XSM store the page content internally? It seems like many> people dislike editing files in a text box. Is there any way it could > use files on the fs? Then just have

Re: [E-devel] website maintainers needed

2006-09-11 Thread David Seikel
I have some Drupal experience now (been building a coporate backed community site recently). I have lots of Java experience (the language XSM is written in). I have even worked on stuff that has combined the two. I am one of the few that contributes to all three sites, and I think I was the firs

Re: [E-devel] website maintainers needed

2006-09-11 Thread The Rasterman
On Mon, 11 Sep 2006 21:45:21 -0400 dan sinclair <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > > agreed. i currently want to just move xsm locally to e.org - get it all up > > and running there and go from there. the question then is - once its up - > > how to kickstart l

Re: [E-devel] website maintainers needed

2006-09-11 Thread The Rasterman
On Tue, 12 Sep 2006 07:00:33 +0200 Brian Miculcy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > I just wanted to keep another problem in mind: 100mbit is enough for anyone... :) heheheh (we can always mirror the larger data files but keep the pages and logic on 1 server and have datafiles/images referenced with

Re: [E-devel] website maintainers needed

2006-09-11 Thread Brian Miculcy
I just wanted to keep another problem in mind: get-e.org used mirrors to scale the bandwidth. Biggest problem with this was dynamic content, for example the php voting system we had same month ago. So if there are plans to have mirrors, we also need to find a way how to work with user content (for

Re: [E-devel] website maintainers needed

2006-09-11 Thread Michael Jennings
On Tuesday, 12 September 2006, at 01:08:22 (+0300), Eugen Minciu wrote: > Ruby on Rails is a web application development framework. For more > info see http://www.rubyonrails.com. It's like the advanced brother > of PHP. The really, really advanced brother of PHP. It's not a > CMS. It should allow

Re: [E-devel] website maintainers needed

2006-09-11 Thread dan sinclair
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > agreed. i currently want to just move xsm locally to e.org - get it all up and > running there and go from there. the question then is - once its up - how to > kickstart life on e.org. we need to involve andy here as we are still using > xsm > and moving F

Re: [E-devel] website maintainers needed

2006-09-11 Thread Blake Barnett
On Sep 11, 2006, at 4:25 PM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > > one issues i see in merging them - 2 use xsm (fine) 1. uses drupal > (php cms). > edevelop's forums just can't function without dynamic www - xsm > itself can't > really scale there. so do we rewrite forum code in php to

Re: [E-devel] website maintainers needed

2006-09-11 Thread Eugen Minciu
On Tue, 12 Sep 2006 08:15:45 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 11 Sep 2006 21:52:55 +0300 Eugen Minciu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > > > On Mon, 11 Sep 2006 14:04:22 -0400 > > Michael Jennings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > On Monday, 11 September

Re: [E-devel] website maintainers needed

2006-09-11 Thread The Rasterman
On Mon, 11 Sep 2006 16:41:45 -0400 Michael Jennings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > On Monday, 11 September 2006, at 23:29:11 (+0300), > Hisham Mardam Bey wrote: > > > Prior to diving into the "what to use" discussion > > See, I don't think that's the conversation we should be having right > now.

Re: [E-devel] website maintainers needed

2006-09-11 Thread The Rasterman
On Mon, 11 Sep 2006 23:37:24 +0200 Brian Miculcy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > Ok, i can only speak for get-e.org xsm: > > The biggest problem was that people can only have access rights to a > whole page, not only of a part if it. Check > http://www0.get-e.org/Themes/E17/, if we give theme cont

Re: [E-devel] website maintainers needed

2006-09-11 Thread The Rasterman
On Mon, 11 Sep 2006 17:13:26 -0400 Christopher Michael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > For myself, I'd prefer either xsm or plain html. Xsm because I am used > to it from get-e.org and plain html because I'm familiar with that too > :) As far as Ruby on Rails I can't really say because I've never

Re: [E-devel] website maintainers needed

2006-09-11 Thread The Rasterman
On Mon, 11 Sep 2006 23:29:11 +0300 "Hisham Mardam Bey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > Hello folks, > > This email is not in direct response to any of the previous replies, > it is the result of a discussion that took place on #edevelop between > (mainly) shadoi, devilhorns, morlenxus, and myself

Re: [E-devel] website maintainers needed

2006-09-11 Thread The Rasterman
On Mon, 11 Sep 2006 13:55:25 -0700 Blake Barnett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > > On Sep 11, 2006, at 1:41 PM, Michael Jennings wrote: > > > On Monday, 11 September 2006, at 23:29:11 (+0300), > > Hisham Mardam Bey wrote: > > > >> Prior to diving into the "what to use" discussion > > > > See, I d

Re: [E-devel] website maintainers needed

2006-09-11 Thread The Rasterman
On Mon, 11 Sep 2006 17:15:27 -0400 Michael Jennings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > On Monday, 11 September 2006, at 13:55:25 (-0700), > Blake Barnett wrote: > > > 3. Foreign codebase. > > > > This is an old problem, where 1 person writes a huge chunk of code > > and then it's hard for a team to

Re: [E-devel] website maintainers needed

2006-09-11 Thread The Rasterman
On Mon, 11 Sep 2006 15:39:23 -0400 Michael Jennings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > On Monday, 11 September 2006, at 15:27:11 (-0400), > Christopher Michael wrote: > > > KX, ahh I see. I was unaware of the reasons that get-e started, but > > all that aside, Perhaps I should have rephrased my stat

Re: [E-devel] website maintainers needed

2006-09-11 Thread The Rasterman
On Mon, 11 Sep 2006 21:03:47 +0100 Andrew Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > On Mon, 2006-09-11 at 15:39 -0400, Michael Jennings wrote: > > For me personally, what stops me from messing with E.org is Rectang. > > Not XSM, necessarily...just the fact that I'm having to go through a > > company

Re: [E-devel] website maintainers needed

2006-09-11 Thread The Rasterman
On Mon, 11 Sep 2006 21:52:55 +0300 Eugen Minciu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > On Mon, 11 Sep 2006 14:04:22 -0400 > Michael Jennings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Monday, 11 September 2006, at 15:49:22 (+0300), > > Eugen Minciu wrote: > > > > > There's www.enlightenment.org and www.e-devel

Re: [E-devel] website maintainers needed

2006-09-11 Thread The Rasterman
On Mon, 11 Sep 2006 14:04:22 -0400 Michael Jennings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > On Monday, 11 September 2006, at 15:49:22 (+0300), > Eugen Minciu wrote: > > > There's www.enlightenment.org and www.e-develop.org and > > www.get-e.org. This really seems like a far stretch to me, imho > > there s

Re: [E-devel] website maintainers needed

2006-09-11 Thread Christopher Michael
Michael Jennings wrote: > On Monday, 11 September 2006, at 15:27:11 (-0400), > Christopher Michael wrote: > >> KX, ahh I see. I was unaware of the reasons that get-e started, but all that aside, Perhaps I should have rephrased my statement then: >> >> "It's not that I refuse to contribute" :

Re: [E-devel] Website Heated Discussions

2006-09-11 Thread Andrew Williams
On Mon, 2006-09-11 at 16:45 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] > > How does XSM store the page content internally? It seems like many > people dislike editing files in a text box. Is there any way it could > use files on the fs? Then just have a cmd line script to compile the > site? It is st

Re: [E-devel] website maintainers needed

2006-09-11 Thread Eugen Minciu
On Mon, 11 Sep 2006 22:49:19 +0200 Brian Miculcy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > i think we have three maintainers for now: Shadoi doing the development > stuff part, me and devilhorns doing the users stuff part. This can be > easily > moved to e.org. I think the main problem is that everyon

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