Re: [E-devel] e17 release stuff

2009-01-06 Thread Luca De Marini
I quote Hishman and Rasterman totally. EFM is absolutely not ready for any Joe the user man. Of course I need to package my distro with Thunar for now, the user cannot use EFM yet, but I'm surely looking forward to an usable EFM. Really, the file manager is more than important at this point. When p

Re: [E-devel] e17 release stuff

2009-01-06 Thread The Rasterman
On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 09:06:38 -0200 "Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri" babbled: actually what hisham said was: "we've taken this long. people will expect something good out of that much time spent. if we rush things now just to slap out a release with stuff missing or done badly or buggy - we will be ridi

Re: [E-devel] e17 release stuff

2009-01-06 Thread Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
Agreed with both Mekius and Toma. What Hisham said can be summarized as "now that we delayed we can delay a bit more", this can lead to infinite, similar to "we do half, then half of the half..." On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 3:29 AM, Toma wrote: > Spot on Mekius. If we had a 6 month roadmap and an al

Re: [E-devel] e17 release stuff

2009-01-05 Thread Toma
Spot on Mekius. If we had a 6 month roadmap and an alpha release, we'd have quite a bit of PR and certainly a bit of personal drive. Even with ewl having releases it gives me drive to try to get the new theme into the next major version. Im sure other devs would be energised by a roadmap and releas

Re: [E-devel] e17 release stuff

2009-01-05 Thread Nick Hughart
On Mon, 5 Jan 2009 23:40:42 -0500 "Hisham Mardam Bey" wrote: > On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 8:24 PM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri > wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 8:00 PM, Luchezar Petkov > > wrote: > >> On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 12:07 PM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri > >> wrote: > >>> > >>> I did basic cat

Re: [E-devel] e17 release stuff

2009-01-05 Thread The Rasterman
On Mon, 5 Jan 2009 23:40:42 -0500 "Hisham Mardam Bey" babbled: > On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 8:24 PM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri > wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 8:00 PM, Luchezar Petkov > > wrote: > >> On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 12:07 PM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri > >> wrote: > >>> > >>> I did basic c

Re: [E-devel] e17 release stuff

2009-01-05 Thread Hisham Mardam Bey
On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 8:24 PM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: > On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 8:00 PM, Luchezar Petkov > wrote: >> On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 12:07 PM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri >> wrote: >>> >>> I did basic categorization of enlightenment items and also remove the >>> idea to drop 16bpp e

Re: [E-devel] e17 release stuff

2009-01-05 Thread The Rasterman
On Mon, 5 Jan 2009 23:24:46 -0200 "Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri" babbled: > On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 8:00 PM, Luchezar Petkov > wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 12:07 PM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri > > wrote: > >> > >> I did basic categorization of enlightenment items and also remove the > >> idea to

Re: [E-devel] e17 release stuff

2009-01-05 Thread Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 8:00 PM, Luchezar Petkov wrote: > On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 12:07 PM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri > wrote: >> >> I did basic categorization of enlightenment items and also remove the >> idea to drop 16bpp engines as we'll use it in our projects. >> >> most showstopper atm is file

Re: [E-devel] e17 release stuff

2009-01-05 Thread Luchezar Petkov
On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 12:07 PM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: > > I did basic categorization of enlightenment items and also remove the > idea to drop 16bpp engines as we'll use it in our projects. > > most showstopper atm is file manager items, I think we can do without > them so would flag t

Re: [E-devel] e17 release stuff

2009-01-05 Thread Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
On Thu, Jan 1, 2009 at 2:26 AM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler wrote: > ok. i just added some of the things discussed in the efm thoughts thread a few > weeks ago: > > http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/wiki/Release > > does anyone have anything to add? i'd like focus to pretty much revolve around >

[E-devel] e17 release stuff

2008-12-31 Thread The Rasterman
ok. i just added some of the things discussed in the efm thoughts thread a few weeks ago: http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/wiki/Release does anyone have anything to add? i'd like focus to pretty much revolve around what's on that list. there are other things being done that are parallel to that li