Sorry... I didnt really feel like unsubbing anyone, and posting in this
thread is just adding more fuel... I think its dead enough now.
Jamie
Jeff Newton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Well gentleman, this it - good by, the delete key would like to retire
> this thread. But, is my decision, when y
Well gentleman, this it - good by, the delete key would like to retire
this thread. But, is my decision, when you get back to the REAL WORLD of
Linux talk, I'll think about coming back... So politics have taken over
the list - goodnight!
Where is the moderator of this list when you need him mos
Alan wrote:
Hmm..that was harsher than I intended. My apologies to all.
I need a new sig:
"Never read mailing lists while hungry"
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T. Joseph CARTER wrote:
They aren't willing to let you. Their cited concerns are legal liability
and that you have not paid your technology fee.
Actually, no one connected to OU has said anything either way.
You seem unwilling to accept this justification, and frankly until
computing services sta
On Wed, Oct 20, 2004 at 12:43:26AM -0700, Alan wrote:
> >Except that open labs generally have a person on hand to supervise the
> >equipment. Granted undergrad student slave labour doesn't result in very
> >good supervision, but at least nobody can hold the university liable for
> >failing to take
On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 00:43:26 -0700, Alan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Since the Oregon-IX is located on campus, I'd imagine we had at least a
> 100mb connection to it, hopefully gigabit.
> Then there is an OC-3 to the Eugene Gigapop which would connect to
> NERO/OWEN.
> I don't know NERO/OWEN has
T. Joseph CARTER wrote:
It's not unclear to me, but I believe that the government is potentially
out to get me at any point in which I may appear to be a potential threat
to anything and anyone.
...
This is a healthy attitude, I think. The
network is a hostile place, and there are people more
On Tue, Oct 19, 2004 at 01:41:51PM -0700, Alan wrote:
> >Let's start with USA PATRIOT, which requires that ISPs know who is
> >connecting to them and be able to produce that information if a court
> >orders that they do so. Information as to who had what IP address and
> >when being stored by ISPs
larry price wrote:
ISP's are subject to 'know your customer' requirements similar to
those imposed on banks. not just the PATRIOT act but also CALEA.
As far as I know, ISP's are specifically excluded from CALEA despite
various law enforcement agencies to lobby the FCC to rule otherwise.
Ah, you
T. Joseph CARTER wrote:
Let's start with USA PATRIOT, which requires that ISPs know who is
connecting to them and be able to produce that information if a court
orders that they do so. Information as to who had what IP address and
when being stored by ISPs and turned over to law enforcement offic
Ah yes, the anonymous access issue.
On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 05:39:33 -0700, T. Joseph CARTER
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 19, 2004 at 03:46:49AM -0700, Alan wrote:
> > And which Federal regulations govern who can connect to a state-owned
> > and operated network?
ISP's are subject to 'know
On Tue, Oct 19, 2004 at 03:46:49AM -0700, Alan wrote:
> >A larger organization (large enough to wire a city) can't get away with an
> >open access point like a little coffee shop can. If they do, who knows
> >what will be done with it. The university's decision to limit access to
> >people they c
T. Joseph CARTER wrote:
You do realize that federal CYA requirements prohibit them from allowing
just anybody to use it. Even city-wide wireless would require that you
have registered to use it so that if your account is seen abusing it,
action may be taken to disable it or track back to you.
A l
On Mon, Oct 18, 2004 at 02:12:12PM -0700, Alan wrote:
> Well, I'm not sure I want my city gov. getting involved in something
> like that. We have better things to spend our money on.
>
> But someplace like OU, where they have already rolled out wireless...
You do realize that federal CYA require
That isn't true. I go to Phoenix a lot on business and wifi spots are
not everywhere. Yes places like IHOP have wifi but they charge you to
hook up to it.
There isn't any mass outlay of it though. Some of the hotels use wifi
for there high speed too but its slow as hell. being ran off business
Phoenix has money. Scottsdale a.k.a Snobsdale has money. Tempe
has money. The population of the Phoenix metro area is about
equal to the population of Oregon. I miss living outside the
valley. Not alot of trees to interfere either.
--- Jeff Newton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have heard from
ene Unix and Gnu/Linux User Group <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Eug-lug] Are we meeting tonight?
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 14:12:12 -0700
T. Joseph CARTER wrote:
Free wireless residents, because they're taxpayers.
Port Angeles has this. Someone said Ashland does as well. Several places
f
T. Joseph CARTER wrote:
Free wireless residents, because they're taxpayers.
Port Angeles has this. Someone said Ashland does as well. Several places
further away do. Wonder why nobody has tried to do this in Eugene yet.
Well, I'm not sure I want my city gov. getting involved in something
like
et/unitedstates/or/eugene/
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From: "Mr O" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Eugene Unix and Gnu/Linux User Group" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 9:22 AM
Subject: Re: [Eug-lug] Are we meeting tonight?
> Perhaps because of a
I have heard from a buddy down in Phoenix, no not the Oregon one,
Arizona, that Phoenix is loaded with wireless Wi-Fi access there all
over town! I heard the same thing about Ashland, but Port Angeles,
hasn't reached me yet, until it was mentioned here.
T. Joseph CARTER wrote:
On Mon, Oct 18, 2
my replies down below;
Alan wrote:
T. Joseph CARTER wrote:
The Strand is VERY LOUD Thursday nights, also they're using Nocat Auth on
the access points now (requires browser with popups enabled) and they've
firewalled off ports like 22. Most UNIX users are not going to be
pleased
with it.
Yup, t
Perhaps because of all the trees? Maybe because the city of
Eugene has no idea what to do with money or how to treat
businesses?
--- "T. Joseph CARTER" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Free wireless residents, because they're taxpayers.
>
> Port Angeles has this. Someone said Ashland does as wel
On Mon, Oct 18, 2004 at 02:17:04AM -0700, Alan wrote:
> Hmmm, I wonder if their mucking around with it explains why I couldn't
> get a connection a few weeks ago? When are people going to realize that
> wireless wants to be free! heh.
Free wireless residents, because they're taxpayers.
Port Ange
T. Joseph CARTER wrote:
The Strand is VERY LOUD Thursday nights, also they're using Nocat Auth on
the access points now (requires browser with popups enabled) and they've
firewalled off ports like 22. Most UNIX users are not going to be pleased
with it.
Hmmm, I wonder if their mucking around with
On Sat, Oct 16, 2004 at 09:15:38AM +, Jeff Newton wrote:
> Have an idea here, what about that cyper cafe place, that I've been so
> much about at 8th and Olive?? Would be close by to the LTD bus station,
> only a two blocks north for a short walk. Plenty of parking across the
> street at the
On Sat, 16 Oct 2004 09:15:38 +, Jeff Newton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Have an idea here, what about that cyper cafe place, that I've been so
> much about at 8th and Olive?? Would be close by to the LTD bus station,
> only a two blocks north for a short walk. Plenty of parking across the
> st
Have an idea here, what about that cyper cafe place, that I've been so
much about at 8th and Olive?? Would be close by to the LTD bus station,
only a two blocks north for a short walk. Plenty of parking across the
street at the bank tower parking lot, etc.
Now, here's some news, I just happen t
On Thu, Oct 14, 2004 at 12:50:30PM -0700, Jason Dommasch wrote:
> Do the EUGLUGers want to meet tonight at 6:30 p.m., or should we just stick
> with monthly meetings? I'm willing to show up with the EUGLUG box of
> connectivity if someone wants to meet, and pick a place.
Well I can't be anywher
Do the EUGLUGers want to meet tonight at 6:30 p.m., or should we just stick
with monthly meetings? I'm willing to show up with the EUGLUG box of
connectivity if someone wants to meet, and pick a place.
Jason Dommasch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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