[Eug-lug] Dell Service

2010-01-06 Thread James Kaplan
Here's a nice way for 010 to start off: I had to deal with Dell service to get the keyboard on my Inspiron replaced. I had an email round robin last week, including the holiday, with tech support reps (India I guess) who were knowledgeable on the product as well as with the service system. Onc

Re: Resolved: [Eug-lug] Dell Service?

2004-09-28 Thread Jason Van Cleve
Quoth Ralph Zeller, on Fri, 24 Sep 2004 14:13:43 -0700: > dd is lots faster using a larger block size instead of 512 bytes. It > defaults to a size that's "optimized" for reading and writing > floppies. But, I read somewhere that for failing drives, I should use a small block size to minimize po

Re: Resolved: [Eug-lug] Dell Service?

2004-09-24 Thread John Sechrest
Ralph is right. And you can set the Blocksize to 64K or 1M and make it go really fast. And if you are trying to edit things in various ways, dd also can do seeking. I use it to create a UML file system: dd if=/dev/zero of=$IMAGEDIR/$hostname seek=$tempsize count=1 bs=1M > /dev/null /sbin/mk

Re: Resolved: [Eug-lug] Dell Service?

2004-09-24 Thread Ralph Zeller
On 09/24/04 12pm, Allen Brown wrote: > On Mon, 20 Sep 2004, Jason Van Cleve wrote: > > > were only $6 or $7 each). Once I discovered the right options for dd, I > > was able to copy those sensitive Windows and Dell partitions, but it > > took a long time, maybe because that old disk is going bad.

Re: Resolved: [Eug-lug] Dell Service?

2004-09-24 Thread Allen Brown
On Mon, 20 Sep 2004, Jason Van Cleve wrote: > were only $6 or $7 each). Once I discovered the right options for dd, I > was able to copy those sensitive Windows and Dell partitions, but it > took a long time, maybe because that old disk is going bad. For my > linux partitions, in retrospect, I c

Resolved: [Eug-lug] Dell Service?

2004-09-20 Thread Jason Van Cleve
Just to follow up, I have successfully copied my old system to my new hard drive. Like most things worth doing, it wasn't easy, requiring a lot of $ fdisk /dev/hdc several $ dd if=/dev/hdd4 of=/dev/hdc3 conv=noerror,sync bs=512 operations (some of which took hours to complete), and a $ chroot

Re: [Eug-lug] Dell Service?

2004-09-17 Thread Allen Brown
On Fri, 17 Sep 2004, Jason Van Cleve wrote: > Quoth Mr O, on Thu, 16 Sep 2004 19:06:40 -0700 (PDT): > > > Create the partition on the other drive first. Then "xcopy C:\ > > D:\ /s/c/h/i" . (Source to destination) > > Okay, but sheesh, who'd want to do it that way if dd can do it from > Linux? >

Re: [Eug-lug] Dell Service?

2004-09-17 Thread Bob Miller
Ken Barber wrote: > On Wednesday 15 September 2004 6:09 pm, Bob Miller wrote: > > > No. dd only works if the new filesystem is exactly the same size as > > the old. > > Which means that it would always work, since dd always makes the new > filesystem the same size as the old one. > > I wonder

Re: [Eug-lug] Dell Service?

2004-09-17 Thread Jason Van Cleve
Quoth Mr O, on Thu, 16 Sep 2004 19:06:40 -0700 (PDT): > Create the partition on the other drive first. Then "xcopy C:\ > D:\ /s/c/h/i" . (Source to destination) Okay, but sheesh, who'd want to do it that way if dd can do it from Linux? --Jason -- Girls are like internet domain names: the ones

Re: [Eug-lug] Dell Service?

2004-09-17 Thread Ken Barber
On Wednesday 15 September 2004 6:09 pm, Bob Miller wrote: > No. dd only works if the new filesystem is exactly the same size as > the old. Which means that it would always work, since dd always makes the new filesystem the same size as the old one. I wonder if you mean that it only works if th

Re: [Eug-lug] Dell Service?

2004-09-16 Thread Mr O
Create the partition on the other drive first. Then "xcopy C:\ D:\ /s/c/h/i" . (Source to destination) --- horst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Actually, if the source and destination partition for Windos > are different > you can use xcopy (or xcopy32 (?)) to transfer an entire win > installat

Re: [Eug-lug] Dell Service?

2004-09-16 Thread horst
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 12:08:13 -0700 From: Allen Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Eugene Unix and Gnu/Linux User Group <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [Eug-lug] Dell Service? Jason Van Cleve wrote: Quoth Allen Brown, on Thu, 16 Sep 2004 10:14:43 -0700: Tar and cpio will not copy Win

Re: [Eug-lug] Dell Service?

2004-09-16 Thread Allen Brown
Jason Van Cleve wrote: > > Quoth Allen Brown, on Thu, 16 Sep 2004 10:14:43 -0700: > > > Tar and cpio will not copy Windoze. And I doubt it would > > That's interesting. Why wouldn't they work on fat32 partitions, > if I can mount those from Linux? Microshaft pulls a funny with a few of the fi

Re: [Eug-lug] Dell Service?

2004-09-16 Thread larry price
On Thu, 16 Sep 2004 11:35:42 -0700, Jason Van Cleve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So if I have this right, dd will copy any kind of partition, or an > entire drive, provided the destination is the same size as the source > (or larger, if I'm willing to sacrifice the extra space). This implies > I

Re: [Eug-lug] Dell Service?

2004-09-16 Thread Jason Van Cleve
Quoth Allen Brown, on Thu, 16 Sep 2004 10:14:43 -0700: > Tar and cpio will not copy Windoze. And I doubt it would That's interesting. Why wouldn't they work on fat32 partitions, if I can mount those from Linux? > But I see that hdc6 is also Windoze. Therefore you need to make > all of the par

Re: [Eug-lug] Dell Service?

2004-09-16 Thread Allen Brown
Jason Van Cleve wrote: > > Here's my current partition table, in case anyone's interested: > > Disk /dev/hdc: 30.0 GB, 30005821440 bytes > 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 3648 cylinders > Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes > >Device Boot Start End Blocks Id Sy

Re: [Eug-lug] Dell Service?

2004-09-16 Thread russ johnson
On Wed, 15 Sep 2004 18:09:37 -0700, Bob Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > # (cd /mnt/hda2; tar cf - .) | (cd /mnt/hdd2; tar xfp -) > -- or -- > # cp -a /mnt/hda2/. /mnt/hdd # instead of "tar | tar" Would the following be an acceptible substitute? # cd /mnt/hda2; fi

Re: [Eug-lug] Dell Service?

2004-09-16 Thread Jason Van Cleve
Quoth Ralph Zeller, on Thu, 16 Sep 2004 08:29:15 -0700: > If you use a command like `dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/hdb` to clone a > smaller drive to a larger drive, you will not be able to use the extra > space available on the larger drive. You will not be able to add > another partition. The large d

Re: [Eug-lug] Dell Service?

2004-09-16 Thread Ralph Zeller
Jason, If you use a command like `dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/hdb` to clone a smaller drive to a larger drive, you will not be able to use the extra space available on the larger drive. You will not be able to add another partition. The large drive will appear to be a smaller drive. If that's not acc

Re: [Eug-lug] Dell Service?

2004-09-15 Thread T. Joseph CARTER
On Wed, Sep 15, 2004 at 10:03:51PM -0700, Jason Van Cleve wrote: > (For some reason the hard drive is hdc and the CDROM is hda in these > Dells.) Swap the IDE cables on the motherboard. Most OSes don't care whether your boot drive is on the primary or secondary controller. That'll make your HD b

Re: [Eug-lug] Dell Service?

2004-09-15 Thread Jason Van Cleve
Here's my current partition table, in case anyone's interested: Disk /dev/hdc: 30.0 GB, 30005821440 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 3648 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/hdc1 1

Re: [Eug-lug] Dell Service?

2004-09-15 Thread Jason Van Cleve
Quoth Bob Miller, on Wed, 15 Sep 2004 18:09:37 -0700: > No. dd only works if the new filesystem is exactly the same size as > the old. Hmmm, the following link suggests dd will copy a smaller drive to a larger one: http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-knopx.html See "Cloning a

Re: [Eug-lug] Dell Service?

2004-09-15 Thread Jason Van Cleve
Quoth Bob Miller, on Wed, 15 Sep 2004 18:09:37 -0700: > > By "disk-to-disk" are you thinking the dd command? > > No. dd only works if the new filesystem is exactly the same size as > the old. Okay, not dd then. 'S okay, dd confuses me anyway. So, I understand the process of copying a partitio

Re: [Eug-lug] Dell Service?

2004-09-15 Thread Bob Miller
Jason Van Cleve wrote: > By "disk-to-disk" are you thinking the dd command? No. dd only works if the new filesystem is exactly the same size as the old. Partition the new disk appropriately and create new filesystems on the partitions using mkfs. Then mount both the old filesystems and the new

Re: [Eug-lug] Dell Service?

2004-09-15 Thread Jason Van Cleve
Quoth Bob Miller, on Tue, 14 Sep 2004 20:30:27 -0700: > LAN backup is very slow. If you are planning to keep more than 100 > MB, get the disk out of the laptop, get the 2" to 3" IDE adaptor, get > it into a desktop, and copy data disk-to-disk. You've got a limited > number of hours of runtime on

Re: [Eug-lug] Dell Service?

2004-09-14 Thread Bob Miller
Jason Van Cleve wrote: > I'd like to attempt a full system backup onto our LAN at this point. > I'm wondering what I could use to accomplish it. Does anyone know if an > ISO would work? I think there's a program that's used with cdrecord, > which will make an ISO from a set of files. Will it r

Re: [Eug-lug] Dell Service?

2004-09-14 Thread Mr O
Try mondorescue: http://www.mondorescue.org/ --- Jason Van Cleve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks for all the feedback so far. My laptop became > inoperable earlier > today, but now it's hanging on, so I'm typing this with light > fingers, > trying not to upset that hard drive! > > I'd like

Re: [Eug-lug] Dell Service?

2004-09-14 Thread Allen Brown
larry price wrote: > > You're thinking of mkisofs > > depending on the size of your hard drive that may not work > even with compression > > are you wanting to make a low level copy of the entire disk > or are you willing to go with a tar based solution > you could do something along the lines o

Re: [Eug-lug] Dell Service?

2004-09-14 Thread larry price
You're thinking of mkisofs depending on the size of your hard drive that may not work even with compression are you wanting to make a low level copy of the entire disk or are you willing to go with a tar based solution you could do something along the lines of tar -c -z -f - /${top_level_dir} |

Re: [Eug-lug] Dell Service?

2004-09-14 Thread Ken Barber
On Tuesday 14 September 2004 2:10 pm, Jason Van Cleve wrote: > I'd like to attempt a full system backup onto our LAN at this point. > I'm wondering what I could use to accomplish it. Does anyone know if an > ISO would work? I think there's a program that's used with cdrecord, > which will make a

Re: [Eug-lug] Dell Service?

2004-09-14 Thread Jason Van Cleve
Thanks for all the feedback so far. My laptop became inoperable earlier today, but now it's hanging on, so I'm typing this with light fingers, trying not to upset that hard drive! I'd like to attempt a full system backup onto our LAN at this point. I'm wondering what I could use to accomplish it

Re: [Eug-lug] Dell Service?

2004-09-14 Thread Darren Hayes
to take that chance. - Original Message - From: "Mr O" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Eugene Unix and Gnu/Linux User Group" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 8:22 AM Subject: Re: [Eug-lug] Dell Service? > Newegg is the last place I

Re: [Eug-lug] Dell Service?

2004-09-14 Thread Ken Barber
On Tuesday 14 September 2004 9:42 am, Garl Grigsby wrote: > Allen Brown wrote: > >Jason Van Cleve wrote: > >>Yeah, I wouldn't know how to copy a laptop drive, so I'll > >>probably have to reinstall. Trouble is, I use this for > >>work. Work'll suck without it. > > For reference PC Parts Express h

Re: [Eug-lug] Dell Service?

2004-09-14 Thread Garl Grigsby
Allen Brown wrote: Jason Van Cleve wrote: Yeah, I wouldn't know how to copy a laptop drive, so I'll probably have to reinstall. Trouble is, I use this for work. Work'll suck without it. For reference PC Parts Express has them instock (and in town) for $12. http://www.pcpartsexpress.com/pa

Re: [Eug-lug] Dell Service?

2004-09-14 Thread Allen Brown
Jason Van Cleve wrote: > Yeah, I wouldn't know how to copy a laptop drive, so I'll > probably have to reinstall. Trouble is, I use this for > work. Work'll suck without it. > > --Jason V. C. First you need an adapter. I got one for low cost at Frys. It takes the 2inch style connector to a 3inc

Re: [Eug-lug] Dell Service?

2004-09-14 Thread Mr O
Newegg is the last place I'd buy an LCD. They buy alot of secondhand units from distributors. You'll notice the pixel replacement policy is 8 or more otherwise no refund. Most manufa cturers will actually replace when only 3 full pixels are out. Of course if you're not using it for a primary displa

Re: [Eug-lug] Dell Service?

2004-09-14 Thread Alan Crandall
At 05:12 PM 9/13/2004, you wrote: My Dell 5100's hard drive or IDE system is going south. Anyone know of a local serviceperson for such laptops? Not sure if they are a factory rep but VOS does do laptop harddrive replacements plus they have Linux people there --- Outgoing mail is certified Viru

Re: [Eug-lug] Dell Service?

2004-09-13 Thread dsoper
On Mon, Sep 13, 2004 at 07:55:22PM -0700, Darren Hayes wrote: > > Get the service tag or express service code on bottom of laptop. Then go to > Dell Support site and login (setup a Dell support account if never logged > in). You will be able to find if laptop is still under warranty and if > onsit

Re: [Eug-lug] Dell Service?

2004-09-13 Thread Darren Hayes
- Original Message - From: "Jason Van Cleve" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Eugene Unix and Gnu/Linux User Group" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, September 13, 2004 6:04 PM Subject: Re: [Eug-lug] Dell Service? > Quoth Allen

Re: [Eug-lug] Dell Service?

2004-09-13 Thread Mr O
and pay no attention to the typos because I'm under the weather and half asleep. :) Not catching things right away. If anybody needs me I'll be curled up under my covers. Bon nuit. ___ Do you Yahoo!? Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today!

Re: [Eug-lug] Dell Service?

2004-09-13 Thread Mr O
If the drive is accessible you can clone it. How big is it? May only have 30GB on hand at work. Usually about $200 for the drive and labor. Linux would need a fsck after changing drives and it'd be good to do a disk check on Winders too. I've cloned drives with Lilo and successfully run it afterwar

Re: [Eug-lug] Dell Service?

2004-09-13 Thread Jason Van Cleve
Quoth Allen Brown, on Mon, 13 Sep 2004 17:17:24 -0700: > Is it still under warrantee? I have a long (but happy) I don't think so. I've had it over a year. > Note, this was a desktop. Yeah, I wouldn't know how to copy a laptop drive, so I'll probably have to reinstall. Trouble is, I use this

Re: [Eug-lug] Dell Service?

2004-09-13 Thread Allen Brown
Jason Van Cleve wrote: > > My Dell 5100's hard drive or IDE system is going south. > Anyone know of a local serviceperson for such laptops? > > Thanks, > > --Jason Van Cleve Is it still under warrantee? I have a long (but happy) story involving Dell service under warrantee. Because I had repl

[Eug-lug] Dell Service?

2004-09-13 Thread Jason Van Cleve
My Dell 5100's hard drive or IDE system is going south. Anyone know of a local serviceperson for such laptops? Thanks, --Jason Van Cleve -- "I drank what?" -- Socrates ___ EUGLUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.euglug.org/mailman/listinfo/eu