Re: [EVDL] Where 20 amp receptacles are required

2016-01-20 Thread Ben Apollonio via EV
On Jan 20, 2016, at 11:13 AM, Bill Dube via EV wrote: > If you are planning on plugging in an EV daily into a 120 volt outlet, you > would likely want to eventually change it out for a "hospital grade" type > receptacle. These are really designed to take constant, daily,

Re: [EVDL] Where 20 amp receptacles are required (was: Leaf Chargers)

2016-01-20 Thread Mike Nickerson via EV
If everyone is following the rules, you shouldn't need that. From the outlet, you should be able to assume the wiring behind it. You could have a 15A outlet with 20A wiring, but I wouldn't try to draw 16A from it. While the wiring could take it, the outlet isn't rated for it. Tesla has a

Re: [EVDL] Where 20 amp receptacles are required

2016-01-20 Thread dovepa via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Where 20 amp receptacles ... (testing existing outlets)

2016-01-20 Thread Cor van de Water via EV
Robert, The wire mat have been 12 gauge but too long and your heavy load could have dropped voltage at the outlet to approx 100V which turns a 1000W heater into a 600W appliance, hence the trip at 2400W at 4 heaters. Cor On Jan 20, 2016, at 7:23 AM, Robert Bruninga via EV

[EVDL] Interior Walk Through on the BOLT

2016-01-20 Thread Steven Lough via EV
Very informative video. Lots of useful gizmo's and gadgets for future customers. I especially like the driver controlled REGEN to a full STOP paddle. ( https://youtu.be/kqA_tG8yjvs ) -- Steven S Lough President EMERITUS Seattle EV Association 206 524 1351 WEB: www.seattleeva.org

Re: [EVDL] Where 20 amp receptacles are required

2016-01-20 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 20 Jan 2016 at 11:32, dovepa via EV wrote: > One can measure the diameter of the wire to determine gauge  True. Also, once you've worked with solid #12 and #14 wire a few times, you'll know by looking at it and/or bending it which size it is. Stranded, it's a little harder to tell. One

Re: [EVDL] Where 20 amp receptacles are required

2016-01-20 Thread Bill Dube via EV
Keep in mind that there is nothing to prevent someone from replacing the 15 amp receptacle on a 15 amp circuit with a 20 amp receptacle. You can still only draw 12 amps. The circuit capacity is what you care about, not so much the style of receptacle. The only method I am aware of to

Re: [EVDL] Where 20 amp receptacles are required (was: Leaf Chargers)

2016-01-20 Thread dovepa via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Where 20 amp receptacles are required

2016-01-20 Thread John Lussmyer via EV
On Wed Jan 20 09:16:02 PST 2016 ev@lists.evdl.org said: >The easiest way to identify a breaker is to plug something into the >outlet and flip breakers until it goes out. A loud radio works if you >can hear that far. If not, a second person on a cell phone is ideal. If >you're alone, turn off all

Re: [EVDL] Where 20 amp receptacles are required

2016-01-20 Thread Bill Dube via EV
It is true that 20 amp circuits typically have 15 amp receptacles installed. The difference is that 15 amp receptacles have two plain straight slots (plus the round ground opening) and the 20 amp receptacle has a neutral slot (right hand slot) with an additional horizontal slit added to

Re: [EVDL] Where 20 amp receptacles are required (was: Leaf Chargers)

2016-01-20 Thread dovepa via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Where 20 amp receptacles ... (testing existing outlets)

2016-01-20 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
> Is there a way... to recognize the gauge and [circuit breaker] of an existing outlet? Bring an electric heater, iron, coffeepot, toaster, hair dryer, or anything rated at 1000W or 1500W and plug them in one at a time for at least 5 minutes after the second one... A 15 amp circuit should do a

[EVDL] pre-Bolt videos: Interior Walk Through ...

2016-01-20 Thread brucedp5 via EV
[ref http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/Interior-Walk-Through-on-the-BOLT-tp4679963.html From:Steven Lough Date:Wed, 20 Jan 2016 Very informative video. Lots of useful gizmo's and gadgets for future customers. I especially like the driver controlled REGEN to a

Re: [EVDL] Looking for an AH meter, pack powered, circular 2" mounting hole

2016-01-20 Thread Cor van de Water via EV
Apparently it is Mastervolt indeed, they have a BattMan Pro and a BattMan Lite http://www.mastervolt.us/new-products/ It looks like the Pro has a large digit readout and stores past events while the Lite has a large bar readout (and small digits) and no history.

Re: [EVDL] Looking for an AH meter, pack powered, circular 2" mounting hole

2016-01-20 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Cor van de Water via EV wrote: Apparently it is Mastervolt indeed, they have a BattMan Pro and a BattMan Lite http://www.mastervolt.us/new-products/ It looks like the Pro has a large digit readout and stores past events while the Lite has a large bar readout (and small digits) and no history.

Re: [EVDL] Where 20 amp receptacles are required (was: Leaf Chargers)

2016-01-20 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 20 Jan 2016 at 8:03, Mike Nickerson via EV wrote: > You could have a 15A > outlet with 20A wiring, but I wouldn't try to draw 16A from it. While the > wiring could take it, the outlet isn't rated for it. If you take two "commercial duty" receptacles apart, one rated 15a and the other 20a,

[EVDL] All SoCal ratepayers (plugin driver or not) must pay for 30k public EVSE

2016-01-20 Thread brucedp5 via EV
% It's the same sham,scam that PG tried& failed, SCE must have more political PUC pull. IMO let the Utility pay for their own EVSE installations same as everyone else. Send your views to the CPUC (see below) no matter where you are in CA. If SCE can do this, then PGE is next. This is going to

Re: [EVDL] Looking for an AH meter, pack powered, circular 2" mounting hole

2016-01-20 Thread Stephen via EV
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[EVDL] AAA truck L3 CHAdeMO charging: Leaf Chargers

2016-01-20 Thread brucedp5 via EV
[ref http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/Leaf-Chargers-tp4679887p4679930.html ] Cor's post reminded me of AAA's efforts to be an emergency quick-charge resource

[EVDL] EVLN: Aerostich Zero Electric Motorcycling in Winter Below Zero

2016-01-20 Thread brucedp5 via EV
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[EVDL] Where 20 amp receptacles are required (was: Leaf Chargers)

2016-01-20 Thread Bill Dube via EV
Paul, There are a number of places in your home that are _required_ by the national electrical code to have dedicated 20 amp circuits for the 120V receptacles. There are at a minimum five (5) 20 amp 120V receptacle circuits in a modern house:

[EVDL] EVLN: Electric mini Blue Demon Z replica is Subaru 360 based (v)

2016-01-20 Thread brucedp5 via EV
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[EVDL] EVLN: Mercedes-Benz ‘let’s do a car’ IAA Concept EV in 2018 r:400+km

2016-01-20 Thread brucedp5 via EV
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[EVDL] EVLN: Electroad’s DWPT vision> Simply run coils beneath the road

2016-01-20 Thread brucedp5 via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Where 20 amp receptacles are required (was: Leaf Chargers)

2016-01-20 Thread Seth Rothenberg via EV
I have been thinking (dangerous I know) Is there a way for an instrument (live ohmmeter / ammeter) or an electronic circuit to recognize the gauge (and surmise the amperage protection likely in place) ? eg, measuring ohms from neutral to ground, (for 120 circuits) or doing a millisecond high-load

Re: [EVDL] Looking for an AH meter, pack powered, circular 2" mounting hole

2016-01-20 Thread Jay Summet via EV
Thanks, that looks like a good option. I don't suppose you have a link to an online store that sells them? They have a dealer near me, that I've left a voicemail with, but I was wondering how it compared price wise with the $300 TBS meter. Thanks, Jay On 01/20/2016 12:43 AM, Ing. Marco