Re: [EVDL] hub motor for 20" wheels

2016-08-13 Thread Michael Ross via EV
I have one (BikeE) laced radial on the non-drive side and it is fine. I was misremembering that it was radial on both sides. The drive side on both my BikeEs are 1 cross pattern and the one without radial lacing is 1 cross on both sides. It may be necessary to use a drill to angle the rim holes

Re: [EVDL] Which one china lifepo4 60 Ah?

2016-08-13 Thread paul dove via EV
I have seen very little evidence of such. Most people are still driving their conversions BMS or not. My vehicle has over 20,000 miles on it with no sign of capacity loss. Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 13, 2016, at 3:50 PM, Lee Hart wrote: > > paul dove via EV

Re: [EVDL] Which one china lifepo4 60 Ah?

2016-08-13 Thread matt lacey via EV
The 42 x 60Ah thundesky pack in my vectrix was originally installed in 2010 It's done 105'000km, and around 1100 cycles equivalent capacity is down to 45Ah The e-rider's lack of BMS is likely what killed the first 4 cells For your application, the e-rider continuous discharge rate may be a

Re: [EVDL] This is one future for mass produced electric vehicles.

2016-08-13 Thread Lawrence Rhodes via EV
A tandem three wheeler like the Greenspeed. Low the the ground and good aero. First dam off the front with a good fairing then build a frame work to support the panels. At this point if it is stiff enough to resist the wind, ala the Elf,one might think about some sort of under cover and

Re: [EVDL] hub motor for 20" wheels

2016-08-13 Thread Willie2 via EV
On 08/13/2016 04:29 PM, ken via EV wrote: I have a Bike E with 20" back wheel . Where can I find a reasonably priced wheel thats desgined to be effeient for that RPM / 20- 25 mph and 36 volts. http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=20%22+ebike+conversion+kit

[EVDL] hub motor for 20" wheels

2016-08-13 Thread ken via EV
I have a Bike E with 20" back wheel . Where can I find a reasonably priced wheel thats desgined to be effeient for that RPM / 20- 25 mph and 36 volts. ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub

Re: [EVDL] This is one future for mass produced electric vehicles.

2016-08-13 Thread Jim Walls via EV
On 8/13/2016 11:29, Lawrence Rhodes via EV wrote: It's a matter of money. I am thinking of using a tandem recumbent bicycle with 20" wheels. This should support 750watts of solar. With a 7.5kw battery it will charge in 10 sunny hours. As a moped class vehicle it will have a very long

Re: [EVDL] Which one china lifepo4 60 Ah?

2016-08-13 Thread Lee Hart via EV
paul dove via EV wrote: Why would you say that? Li FePO4 has one of the largest cycle life of any of them.?2000+ cycles. The Mitsubishi i-MiEV uses LiFePO4 cells. Maybe go with a larger Ah capacity to increase current limits. They only do 3C continuous. So that would be 180 Amps for a 60Ah

Re: [EVDL] This is one future for mass produced electric vehicles.

2016-08-13 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Lawrence Rhodes via EV wrote: It's a matter of money. You can be pretty tricky to build it on a budget. Dave Cloud, Cedric Lynch, and Jerry Dycus have all built examples of very efficient vehicles on tiny budgets. They may look a bit funky, but it's a prototype! :-) I am thinking of

Re: [EVDL] This is one future for mass produced electric vehicles.

2016-08-13 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ > Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/ > group/NEDRA) > > -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/p

Re: [EVDL] Solar haves and have nots

2016-08-13 Thread 63urban via EV
rid at the same time for under 10% of >their >dirty costs.  So it is not the other rate payers that are complaining, >it >is the dirty fossil fuel peaking plans using the good name of "other >rate >payers" to divide and conquer us. > >Bob Bruninga, WB4APR >

Re: [EVDL] Which one china lifepo4 60 Ah?

2016-08-13 Thread paul dove via EV
Why would you say that? Li FePO4 has one of the largest cycle life of any of them.?2000+ cycles. The Mitsubishi i-MiEV uses LiFePO4 cells. Maybe go with a larger Ah capacity to increase current limits. They only do 3C continuous. So that would be 180 Amps for a 60Ah cell. Sent from my iPhone

[EVDL] semi off topic

2016-08-13 Thread Willie2 via EV
Since David hasn't started playing whack-a-mole on this, I'll pretend that it is semi on topic. It seems reasonable to discuss the source of energy used to drive our EVs. I visited Las Vegas (for the first time) this past December. I was struck by two situations that offended my delicate

Re: [EVDL] This is one future for mass produced electric vehicles.

2016-08-13 Thread Lawrence Rhodes via EV
David, It's a matter of money. I am thinking of using a tandem recumbent bicycle with 20" wheels. This should support 750watts of solar. With a 7.5kw battery it will charge in 10 sunny hours. As a moped class vehicle it will have a very long range. I will probably make use of Zzipper

Re: [EVDL] Solar haves and have nots

2016-08-13 Thread Willie2 via EV
On 08/13/2016 12:03 PM, Robert Bruninga via EV wrote: The grid will actually need less spinning reserves with solar than they have now. When we think solar is "variable" then we are ignoring the fact that when a coal or nuke or gas plant drops off line due to any number of *routine* causes,

Re: [EVDL] Solar haves and have nots

2016-08-13 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
off the grid. The sooner the better. >> >> Sure we need peaking plants, But we do not need to cry over them when >> solar can provide power to the grid at the same time for under 10% of >> their >> dirty costs. So it is

Re: [EVDL] Solar haves and have nots

2016-08-13 Thread robert winfield via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Which one china lifepo4 60 Ah?

2016-08-13 Thread Willie2 via EV
On 08/13/2016 07:32 AM, Cruisin via EV wrote: None of the Chinese LifePO4 cells will last long. How many electric cars use that chemistry? YMMV I have a ~10 year old ThunderSky LFP pack that has given me more than 50k miles; about 5 of the 48 cells have been replaced. The pack is still at

Re: [EVDL] Solar haves and have nots

2016-08-13 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
sil fuel peaking plans using the good name of "other rate payers" to divide and conquer us. Bob Bruninga, WB4APR -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20160813/10f2361b/attachment.htm> _

Re: [EVDL] Which one china lifepo4 60 Ah?

2016-08-13 Thread Willie2 via EV
On 08/13/2016 07:32 AM, Cruisin via EV wrote: None of the Chinese LifePO4 cells will last long. How many electric cars use that chemistry? My perception is that LFP is not very popular due to relatively low energy density. Also, I think LFP may be a little higher cost. I think Nissan went

Re: [EVDL] Which one china lifepo4 60 Ah?

2016-08-13 Thread Cruisin via EV
None of the Chinese LifePO4 cells will last long. How many electric cars use that chemistry? -- View this message in context: http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/Which-one-china-lifepo4-60-Ah-tp4683272p4683273.html Sent from the Electric Vehicle Discussion List mailing

[EVDL] Which one china lifepo4 60 Ah?

2016-08-13 Thread Artur Kubik via EV
Hi, I have china e-bike "Zapp" (www.erider.cn), 2,5 kW / 60V engine and 19s (40 Ah) LiFePO4, without BMS. Oryginal cells (from 2007) were made by Thundersky. After about a year of use, the 4 cells (from 19) were dead and I stop to use e-bike. Now I started to "repair" this e-bike. I order the