On Oct 20, 2015, at 11:05 PM, Mike Nickerson via EV wrote:
> True. I actually meant I've only seen 20A outlets in commercial
> installations. My house is wired with 20A circuits and 15A outlets.
Hmmm...I may well be confused.
I just checked my panel.
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On Oct 20, 2015, at 11:05 PM, Mike Nickerson via EV
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> True. I actually meant
On Oct 21, 2015, at 4:08 PM, Roland wrote:
> A electrical worker say he has install a 30 amp circuit, may only mean that
> the wire size is rated for 24 amps at 50 foot circuit run or 16 amps at a 70
> foot run for a 1 percent voltage drop.
I don't remember the actual gauge wire
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You can install a 15 or 20 amp 125 volt rated receptacle
On 20 Oct 2015 at 22:41, SLPinfo.org via EV wrote:
> They have been debating since day 1 whether to add a 220v outlet in their
> garage. The debate is because it would be an expensive install (awkward
> placement of breaker box, not in garage).
That can make a HUGE difference. For my current
True. I actually meant I've only seen 20A outlets in commercial installations.
My house is wired with 20A circuits and 15A outlets.
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> It is unsustainable to expect that people
"If you figure 3 miles per kWh for a typical EV, you'll recharge at about 10
MPH from a standard 110 circuit."
Charging at 3.3kW would indeed permit about 10 mph charging rate but I think
you won't find many 120V rms outlets that will supply the required 28A rms
current or 30A at 110V. You may
On 20 Oct 2015 at 8:42, Ben Goren via EV wrote:
> All the garages I'm familiar with have 30A circuits. Garages typically get
> used for power equipment like saws that need heavy draws. If there's a single
> 30A circuit in the entire house, it'll be in the garage.
I'm confused here. Are you
On Oct 19, 2015, at 2:24 PM, Jim Walls wrote:
> I've never lived in an apartment, but I know people who often have to park
> blocks from home because that's the closest parking.
It might be a zoning thing here, but every apartment complex in the Phoenix
area is pretty much
All the garages I'm familiar with have 30A circuits. Garages typically get used
for power equipment like saws that need heavy draws. If there's a single 30A
circuit in the entire house, it'll be in the garage.
...and that's the case with houses built as far back as the Carter
administration.
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On Oct 19, 2015, at 2:24 PM, Jim Walls <j...@k6ccc.org> wrote:
I've never lived in an apart
Same experience in Idaho as David's in Ohio. The entire garage is wired with
one circuit, using 15A outlets. I've seen 20A circuits, but only in commercial
installations. I've never seen a 30A outlet that was 120V.
Mike
On October 20, 2015 1:24:45 PM MDT, EVDL Administrator via EV
I have a 30 amp 120 volt outlet under my house which is used for "shore
power" for my 5th wheel RV. That is the only application I have ever seen
it used in. I run a 10 gauge 3 wire "extension cord" out to the RV.
Michael B
On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 6:34 PM, Mike Nickerson via EV
On 20 Oct 2015 at 19:34, Mike Nickerson via EV wrote:
> I've seen 20A circuits, but only in commercial installations.
You'll see plenty of 20a branch circuits in homes - all newer homes are
wired this way - but 20a receptacles on them are indeed pretty rare.
This is because the code has an
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On 19 Oct 2015 at 10:23, Ben Goren via EV wrote:
> I think it's safe to suggest that, before long, it'll be as difficult
> to find apartment complexes that lack 110 outlets for residents in
> their already-designated spaces as it is today to find apartment
> complexes lacking cable (etc.) TV and
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> It is unsustainable to expect that people withou
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Don't forget that there is a huge percentage, 30% to 5
On Oct 19, 2015, at 9:57 AM, Peri Hartman via EV wrote:
> Don't forget that there is a huge percentage, 30% to 50% depending on how you
> measure, who don't have consistent access to dedicated off street charging.
Almost all those people are apartment dwellers. And I think
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> Don't forget that there is a h
On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 3:44 PM, Robert Bruninga via EV
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> It is unsustainable to expect that people without EV charging at home or
> at work (both can be 115 volt) will be happy to leave their cars for hours
> every day somewhewre else every single day. Or that there
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What they actually don't understand is tha
On Oct 19, 2015, at 3:24 AM, brucedp5 via EV wrote:
> In broad strokes, if you're confident that you can charge your car at home
> every night--or at work every day--then recharge rate may not be quite so
> important.
They're handwaving away the most important point.
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