On Sat, Jun 10, 2023 at 12:54 AM Danny Ames via EV
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> On Fri, Jun 9, 2023 at 8:32 AM Randy Spencer via groups.io yahoo@groups.io> wrote:
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> Yes, Tesla is implementing CCS standard 15118 Plug and Charge (as should
> all other Cha
Tesla insurance (their own insurance division) has an opt-in feature to
share your driving history with them for reduced rates.
I use Tesla insurance, but only because it costs half of what my old
insurance did, but I did not opt into data collection.
On Tue, Jun 13, 2023 at 12:40 PM Mr. Sharkey
Lee hart via EV wrote:
> Corrections to your insurance policy based on your driving
Hmmm, You almost make that aspect sound like a bad thing. From my
observances, the majority of other drivers I encounter on the road
need and deserve this "feature".
Of course the newest road-worthy ICE that
One point on that: Tesla's newest MC (Mobile Connector) and WC (Wall
connector) both use SWCAN (Single-wire CAN) to communicate with the car,
and they exchange way more data than Good old "dumb" J1772. They also use
this facility to update the EVSE from the car. (Car downloads update and
pushes
On 6/13/2023 11:02 AM, Lee Hart via EV wrote:
Jay Summet via EV wrote:
My understanding is that a Level 2 (J1772) charger does basically that.
Yes; and perhaps that is why they want to drop it in favor of a more
data-invasive charging system. We EV owners are getting the early
"benefit" of t
Bill Dube via EV wrote:
>> Perhaps some enterprising person will come up with an
>> "anonymizer" charging cord that will limit the data from your car to
>> the very minimum needed to get a charge.
Jay Summet via EV wrote:
My understanding is that a Level 2 (J1772) charger does basically
tha
My understanding is that a Level 2 (J1772) charger does basically
thatit uses the pilot pin to indicate how many amps can be pulled,
and the car is expected to limit amp draw to that amount.
(unless you use a card or phone app to "enable" or pay for the J1772
charger, in which chase they g
When they went from a simple NEMA 14-50 plug for charging to a
complicated system that "enables" (requires) your car and the charger to
communicate, you unintentionally gave up your privacy when using a
public charger.
The car and the charger can get quite chummy and share all sorts of
inform
Bill Dube via EV wrote:
They want to gather data. It has serious value.
EV List Lackey via EV wrote:
And I don't want to give it to them.
I'm paying them to charge. I don't owe them anything else.
I feel the same way. I don't want to live in an Orwellian "big brother"
future, where everyt
over the Tesla NACS wins the day
On 6/9/2023 2:52 PM, EV List Lackey via EV wrote:
> There'll be adapters to CCS-charge those new NACS Fords and GMs - right?
Already exist for Tesla owners.
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>> They want to gather data. It has serious value.
>
> And I don't want to give it to them.
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> I'm paying them to charge. I don't owe them anything else.
Oh come now, David. The overall mindset of anyone and everyone who
uses a schmott phone or any one or other of social media sites is
that "
Gone are those days!
I noticed my city in California (Oakley) has installed ALPR (Automatic
License Plate Readers) at all major intersections into the city. This is
also being done by many other cities. Tracking is no longer limited to
just companies you do business with, the Government is now
On 10 Jun 2023 at 20:12, Bill Dube via EV wrote:
> They want to gather data. It has serious value.
And I don't want to give it to them.
I'm paying them to charge. I don't owe them anything else.
The gas pump nozzle tells the petroleum company nothing about me and my ICEV
(or would if I stil
There are no card readers on them and they don’t need them. You register your
car and have a card on file. You just plug in … can’t be simpler than that.
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On Friday, June 9, 2023, 4:53 PM, EV List Lackey via EV
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On 9 Jun 2023 at 8:04, Tom Keenan via
It’s in the new standard mandated by the government.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2023/02/15/fact-sheet-biden-harris-administration-announces-new-standards-and-major-progress-for-a-made-in-america-national-network-of-electric-vehicle-chargers/
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The Tesla service representative told me that adapters (even Tesla adapters)
are the most likely failure point. They can get hot and melt. I quit using mine
after he told me.
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On Saturday, June 10, 2023, 1:54 AM, Danny Ames via EV
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They want to gather data. It has serious value.
The vehicle "talks" to the charger and exchanges data. Vehicle type.
Vehicle ID. State of charge. Battery health. _Lots_ of data is given to
the charger.
Bill D.
On 6/10/2023 9:52 AM, EV List Lackey via EV wrote:
On 9 Jun 2023 at 8:04, Tom Ke
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On Fri, Jun 9, 2023 at 8:32 AM Randy Spencer via groups.io
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Yes, Tesla is implementing CCS standard 15118 Plug and Charge (as should all
other Charge Vendors).
"The user-convenient and secure Plug & Charge feature that envisioned wi
On 6/9/2023 2:52 PM, EV List Lackey via EV wrote:
There'll be adapters to CCS-charge those new NACS Fords and GMs - right?
Already exist for Tesla owners.
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On 9 Jun 2023 at 8:04, Tom Keenan via EV wrote:
> I´m curious how Tesla will do billing for non-Tesla vehicles. Will the
> vehicle be identified by the charging station (as Teslas are at
> superchargers?) or will it be via app?
Dumb question, maybe, but assuming that the terminal is open to all
With a Tesla you have an account with cc information already stored.
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On Friday, June 9, 2023, 10:05 AM, Tom Keenan via EV wrote:
If NACS does become the standard, I’m curious how Tesla will do billing for
non-Tesla vehicles. Will the vehicle be identified
If NACS does become the standard, I’m curious how Tesla will do billing for
non-Tesla vehicles. Will the vehicle be identified by the charging station (as
Teslas are at superchargers?) or will it be via app?
I also wonder if Tesla will disallow some vehicles (or certain models) from
charging on
Interesting. For me, strictly academically so, since neither GM nor Ford
now offers an EV that I'd even consider buying.
Regrettable too that we can't have a worldwide charging standard, and one
not dictated by a particular automaker.
That second condition may be just the foul aftertaste lef
Today is a milestone moment in the history of the EV charging standard. Now
the Ford and GM are in, its just matter of time for the others to accept the
NACS or be left out.No more competing standards or consumer confusion.
Something that always works, is elegant to use and makes so much sense
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